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Ryan Dunleavy on todays scrimmage

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  1. Ryan Dunleavy ‏@rydunleavy 5m5 minutes ago
    I'm told Laviano and Rettig both led TD drives with the starters in #RFootball scrimmage. David Bonagura had a big day as the FG kicker

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  2. Ryan Dunleavy ‏@rydunleavy 8m8 minutes ago
    2nd team OL Manny Taylor was on crutches after being full-go in Thursday's practice #RFootball

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  3. Ryan Dunleavy ‏@rydunleavy 16m16 minutes ago
    Vince Okruch said #rfootball offense won the scrimmage today. I heard there were a lot of sacks though. Sounds like both sides has moments

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1. Offense line is a disaster
2. QB's are average
3. Offense lacks explosion, and is devoid of playmakers

Biggest takeaway from the scrimmage, we've got a Kicker!!!!

All things considered not bad. Give me a Great Defense, a Solid Kicker, and a Run Game, and I'll take my chances.
 
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El Curioso Impertinente said:
1. Offense line is a disaster
2. QB's are average
3. Offense lacks explosion, and is devoid of playmakers

Biggest takeaway from the scrimmage, we've got a Kicker!!!!

All things considered not bad. Give me a Great Defense, a Solid Kicker, and a Run Game, and I'll take my chances.
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We are a LONG way off from having a "great" defense so gonna have to rely on the O, somehow, some way, this season. Now hopefully the DB's do some serious "growing" during the off-season, to help the world's most inexperienced LB'er unit, and in turn hopefully we see improvement on D over last year's debacle.
 
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AreYouNUTS said:
We are a LONG way off from having a "great" defense so gonna have to rely on the O, somehow, some way, this season. Now hopefully the DB's do some serious "growing" during the off-season, to help the world's most inexperienced LB'er unit, and in turn hopefully we see improvement on D over last year's debacle.
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We're gonna need a huge recruiting year from Coach Ash. We lose a ton of Seniors. This will be our best defense for at least the next three years. Might as well enjoy it.
 
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A running game, great defense, and a kicker won't take you far anymore. College football is different from years ago. The teams that have adapted are those like the offenses at Houston and Cinn which tore us apart in the years prior to our entrance into the Big 10. Unless you are Alabama or Ohio State, you don't win anymore with the "great running games" of Oklahoma (Switzer) or Nebraska (Osborne). The NFL is a passing game; the college game is a dual threat game. Three yards and a cloud of dust is gone except for a few holdouts (such as Flood's offense).
 
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RU old timer said:
A running game, great defense, and a kicker won't take you far anymore. College football is different from years ago. The teams that have adapted are those like the offenses at Houston and Cinn which tore us apart in the years prior to our entrance into the Big 10. Unless you are Alabama or Ohio State, you don't win anymore with the "great running games" of Oklahoma (Switzer) or Nebraska (Osborne). The NFL is a passing game; the college game is a dual threat game. Three yards and a cloud of dust is gone except for a few holdouts (such as Flood's offense).
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Ok, I'll buy what you're selling.
 
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El Curioso Impertinente said:
1. Offense line is a disaster
2. QB's are average
3. Offense lacks explosion, and is devoid of playmakers

Biggest takeaway from the scrimmage, we've got a Kicker!!!!

All things considered not bad. Give me a Great Defense, a Solid Kicker, and a Run Game, and I'll take my chances.
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A spread offense that lacks explosion means a looong season ahead.
 
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El Curioso Impertinente said:
We're gonna need a huge recruiting year from Coach Ash. We lose a ton of Seniors. This will be our best defense for at least the next three years. Might as well enjoy it.
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I do agree with this. 2016 is the last year for the supposed great class that Flood was hired to retain. His recruiting got progressively more mediocre as it went on and that coupled with Ash not making much of an initial splash to improve this years incoming class suggests that the talent base for 2017-18 seasons will be well below where it needs to be. Maybe he gets them to overachieve but even if Ash kills it recruiting in 2017 you can't expect a lot of help for the 2017 season.
 
you need a mobile QB and speed WRS AND flex type slot backs to run a spread. Other then Grant and Agudosi..I dont see any speed or proven WR'S.The defense line is very thin if the starters go down to injury..
Once again this all is the result of Flood and last staff lack of recruiting talent and depth and two stars reaches and lack of real talent from N.J..
 
Change in anything takes time & effort to make it successful. Learning a whole new offense, defense, how you train, eat,...., we may struggle our 1st year not having the appropriate athletes in place. I got to believe the upside of this system far out weighs not making a change. There is a huge learning curve but I believe in this coaching staff, Coach Ash has a vision, he's planned for this and replicating from Urban Meyer is not a bad thing. Let's say we get there 75% of what we are trying to do this year, I gotta believe that 75% is going to be a hell of a lot better than 100% of what we were doing last year.

Washington is going to be a tough test on the road to open the season, than you have Howard & New Mexico at Home, 2 good games to iron out the kinks and hopefully we can get the Offense & Defense rolling by than. It's hard to predict what kind of season we are going to have, looking forward to the Spring Game.
 
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Expect with a team that plays hard and never gives up,is fundamentally sound and may hang in for a few quarters against superior talent. The results will be what we are expecting .4 and 8 or maybe 3 and 9 or if he rides them like ponies 5 and 7..Then we pray and beg and plead and grovel for a top 20 recruiting class for '17 and then we go from there. If this guy isn't the answer then who is? After waiting my whole life I will wait another year .Or so.
 
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needmorecowbell said:
It's hillarious watching people panic on day 7 of a new staff. What did you expect? Everything clicking and mid season form? This team will need the rest of spring/summer and preseason to have a chance at getting a new offense and defense.
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You look it the way you like with your scarlet covered glasses, but you should be aware of :
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Our best lineman is not out there right now. It will get better.
 
njknightsfan said:
Change in anything takes time & effort to make it successful. Learning a whole new offense, defense, how you train, eat,...., we may struggle our 1st year not having the appropriate athletes in place. I got to believe the upside of this system far out weighs not making a change. There is a huge learning curve but I believe in this coaching staff, Coach Ash has a vision, he's planned for this and replicating from Urban Meyer is not a bad thing. Let's say we get there 75% of what we are trying to do this year, I gotta believe that 75% is going to be a hell of a lot better than 100% of what we were doing last year.
Washington is going to be a tough test on the road to open the season, than you have Howard & New Mexico at Home, 2 good games to iron out the kinks and hopefully we can get the Offense & Defense rolling by than. It's hard to predict what kind of season we are going to have, looking forward to the Spring Game.
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Agreed, I actually fully expect several changes in the line up from week to week over the first three games as Ash sees how players execute in real time game action. I obviously have no inside information and am working purely on my gut but I think there is a part of him that wants to win those games but still views them as scrimmages that are needed to get ready for the BIG schedule. Do not misunderstand me, I am not saying he doesn't care if he wins or loses, I am saying that he can use those games to finalize who he believes are the best players he has in each of his ten units. So I am not even going to put a lot of trust in the opening day QB starter. He may change at half time just to see how someone else executes. So I am not getting hung up on reports on who is playing well and who isn't in a spring scrimmage.
 
AreYouNUTS said:
We are a LONG way off from having a "great" defense so gonna have to rely on the O, somehow, some way, this season. Now hopefully the DB's do some serious "growing" during the off-season, to help the world's most inexperienced LB'er unit, and in turn hopefully we see improvement on D over last year's debacle.
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Nuts I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with how the defense turns out. Defense is easier to correct with good coaching. Not not saying great, but better than what people think they will be.
 
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Muller is our best lineman, he has the most experience and he a great straight ahead run blocker.
 
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The combination of another year of maturity ,strenth and conditioning ,a coaching staff that appears a peg up on the previous one and some of the young guys stepping up might surprise us. I am still somewhat pessimistic but hopeful but we will see what shakes out.
 
Spin it anyway you want but recruiting has fallen off more and more since Schiano left. The last class was terrible.

It's not so much the x's and the 0's it's the jimmys and the joes.
 
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AreYouNUTS said:
We are a LONG way off from having a "great" defense so gonna have to rely on the O, somehow, some way, this season. Now hopefully the DB's do some serious "growing" during the off-season, to help the world's most inexperienced LB'er unit, and in turn hopefully we see improvement on D over last year's debacle.
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Expect the Rutgers offense to keep pace with the other offenses in the Big Ten--East as they wood-chipper the RU Defense, and hope the secondary magically improves from last year's performance?

Might as well wish for a pony.
 
We didn't have the proper talent/depth mixture to win against the heavyweights, but I think there was certainly enough talent last year to avoid all the blow outs.

Let's see what Ash can do with relatively the same players. The fact that Ash cut his teeth coaching DBs suggests we'll see a vast improvement in that unit at the very least. And that alone is worth one additional victory right there.
 
MozRU said:
We lack talent.

Thanks Flood
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Two years ago Brady Hoke took a Michigan team that all the pundants said was loaded with talent and made them look mediocre at best. So, considering how poorly coached our team has been over the last four years how can you honestly assess the talent level? Why don't we all just wait and see what happens before throwing these kids under the bus and labeling this team as
lacking talent. I think many of you may be pleasantly surprised at the talent level as this year proceeds. I hope so anyway. But I choose to be optimistic.
 
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Didn't Bobby say that Agudosi caught multiple TDs?
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I said Agudosi needed to be more consistent in his play. Note he was getting better as the season came to a close.
(a bowl game would have helped him greatly) This is very good news as I expected (new coaches teach new tricks of the trade) Multiple TD catches= is getting open, better routes and consistence in catching the ball! <<all good solid results

Debtbubble said:
Spin it anyway you want but recruiting has fallen off more and more since Schiano left. The last class was terrible. It's not so much the x's and the 0's it's the jimmys and the joes.
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Denigrate our past recruiting classes is beyond your infant input level but be an ass and place lies as your ascertain. Your falsehood, is proofed by the coaching staff as we have not picked up a single linemen; picking up Juco is a sign of no talent on board. that is BOTH O &D
True we did late picked ups in CB and Safeties well understood. just how many were arrested yes this is a gap there; a result of arrests not recruiting short comings.
So making a sweep statement you are just throwing mud on the wall to think it will stick
But here are flood's recruits that will make any B10 team outside osu and Michigan (BTW a few did have Mich offers)
Blessuan, Bakey, Blunt, Webb, Wiafe, Hogan, Martin, Hicks, Grifftin-Stewart, James, Clayton, Snorweark, Sneek, Hester, Wilkins
That is to name a few who come to mind of B10 offered players that chose Rutgers. Denigrate Flood as you wish but the man still had a eye for talent and could reel in some B10 talent. we will compete at a par with the middle of the pack teams.
Debtbubble 4 posts and you come off as a troll, work on your posts, use facts not emotion there are too many knee-jerks on board already
 
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Imbazza you are so right. The hatred of Flood is so deep in so many posters here that they simply assume that because he was a bad coach he was also a bad recruiter and a bad identifier of talent. Just because Flood was bad doesn't mean all his players are bad. Looking forward to a better season in '16.
 
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Dpgru said:
Two years ago Brady Hoke took a Michigan team that all the pundants said was loaded with talent and made them look mediocre at best. So, considering how poorly coached our team has been over the last four years how can you honestly assess the talent level? Why don't we all just wait and see what happens before throwing these kids under the bus and labeling this team as
lacking talent. I think many of you may be pleasantly surprised at the talent level as this year proceeds. I hope so anyway. But I choose to be optimistic.
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I hope you are correct but those Hoke teams were loaded with 4 and 5 star players and some of the most highly ranked classes in the country. Meanwhile Flood's classes were in the 60's 70's, etc with little to no 4 and 5 stars.

So I am not sure that is really comparing apples to apples.
 
Dpgru said:
Two years ago Brady Hoke took a Michigan team that all the pundants said was loaded with talent and made them look mediocre at best. So, considering how poorly coached our team has been over the last four years how can you honestly assess the talent level? Why don't we all just wait and see what happens before throwing these kids under the bus and labeling this team as
lacking talent. I think many of you may be pleasantly surprised at the talent level as this year proceeds. I hope so anyway. But I choose to be optimistic.
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I hope to agree with you. I want to believe the guys on that roster last year were so fed up and didn't listen a lick in the film sessions, they were rag tag bunch out there.

Was PSU that much better than us last year? Or did they just pack it in?

(I hope for our future those kids packed in it and I am wrong, and we do have talent on the roster. Then Ash will do what Harbaugh did. Turn around)
 
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MozRU said:
I hope to agree with you. I want to believe the guys on that roster last year were so fed up and didn't listen a lick in the film sessions, they were rag tag bunch out there.

Was PSU that much better than us last year? Or did they just pack it in?

(I hope for our future those kids packed in it and I am wrong, and we do have talent on the roster. Then Ash will do what Harbaugh did. Turn around)
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The Penn State game should be heavily discounted. Hamilton was limping around. No Carroo. No Flood (was just suspended). A secondary full of inexperience. The team went into that game reeling from a sh!tstorm of bad news. Yeah, excuses, excuses. I throw that game out the window. Cue the usual suspects from their team to jump in now . . . .
 
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RU2055 said:
Nuts I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with how the defense turns out. Defense is easier to correct with good coaching. Not not saying great, but better than what people think they will be.
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We lost ALL 3 starting LB'S and have virtually no experience in the entire group. This is a big, big, big problem, regardless of coaching. We were one of the worst D's in the nation last year. Period, up-and-down the statistical categories, it's scary. Now that being said give me improvement, jump 20+ spots in all/most defensive categories, and I'll be very happy. Expecting more is simply going to leave a lot of people disappointed IMHO, but, getting more would be "eye opening" re: this staff!
 
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Scarlet_Scourge said:
I hope you are correct but those Hoke teams were loaded with 4 and 5 star players and some of the most highly ranked classes in the country. Meanwhile Flood's classes were in the 60's 70's, etc with little to no 4 and 5 stars.

So I am not sure that is really comparing apples to apples.
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I am not comparing our talent to theirs. I am pointing out that a poor coaching job can cover up the actual talent level that is actually there. To say we are lacking talent based on the way they played last year is wrong. That's all.
 
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