SIAP- terry Shea's new coaching gig
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I assume you don't intend your use of the word "cemented" to be taken literally. If you do, you need to find another hobby, because you will get no joy from this one.
He's a better coach than either Anderson or Graber.
The guy had nothing to recruit on. Nothing. Graber left him with nothing - Doug's specialty was having entire classes flunk out of school. Every summer camp would open with the local papers printing the list of players who were no longer with the team and those lists had as many, if not more, names as his recruiting classes.
If you talk to the guys who played for both coaches, Graber and Shea, they will tell you, unanimously, that Shea was the better coach. Graber's teams were more successful, but it's generally acknowledged that he had better talent.
Shea isn't a recruiter. But he is definitely a good coach.
No matter how good or average or whatever we get, the history of two utter failures as coaches - not just bad coaching, but program destroyers gets us a permanent place marker in history. Regretfully, the totality of the damage isn't assessed until the next guy comes in.
He may be a decent QB coach. But as a college HC, he's a program killer. The cupboard may have been empty, but he had four years to fill it. What did he do? He instead decided to play with empty cupboards.
I don't think you can say that he's a "program killer" as a college HC. He was unsuccessful here, but he was successful at San Jose State. So, at best, you can say he's about half a program killer.
Except he was only at San Jose State for two years, and his second season was a step backward from his first.
If I was building a staff, I'd love to have him as a QB coach. In a heartbeat. But our S&C was worse than our recruiting with him here, and without those two things you have no program.
And we had no program.
Xs and Os he might have been a better coach than Graber or Anderson. I'll buy that.
Damn Bill Walsh ...
As for that "league," I like the fact it also will help develop NFL referees. Anything will help.
If I was building a staff, I'd love to have him as a QB coach. In a heartbeat. But our S&C was worse than our recruiting with him here, and without those two things you have no program.
And we had no program.
Xs and Os he might have been a better coach than Graber or Anderson. I'll buy that.
Damn Bill Walsh ...
As for that "league," I like the fact it also will help develop NFL referees. Anything will help.
We are far from cemented our legacy as the worst in history .
Most programs ebb and flow over time. Ash and staff will get us back to respectability . If he can get the top NJ recruits to buy into his system and have pride in their State University the sky is the limit.
Spot on. Good offense mind. When GS replaced him the football budget doubled
Nah. Laviano would have been killed behind Shea's OL. McMahon barely escaped with his life.
Shea was a solid qb coach but he had no business leading the state U of NJ in football. He got the job because Fran Lawrence was beside himself that the great Bill Walsh told him to hire the Cali based coach and his shocking power philosophy and so Lawrence hired Shea. True that Shea had little to work with after Graber's crew vacated or were escorted off the RU premises. That was the history of RU football at the time doing things on the cheap with little cohesive support from the state and the RU community as a whole while programs like PSU funded and supported their program at an entirely different level and at some unflattering costs (I.e. Paterno and Sandusky). Schiano was a breathe of fresh air and had a vision and the AD Mulcahy supported that vision. Unfortunately GS would never lead the program to a conference title nor a NYD bowl game but RU became respectable. Then a decision out of desperation with GS exiting to the NFL to save a recruiting class and RU again going on the cheap and the path of least resistance by hiring internally the "nice guy" who attracted very little coaching and player talent. Then would prove to be an imbecile of the highest order. Terry Shea had no business at RU as a head coach, recruiter, or program builder in NJ but the guy knew about the qb position. Flood on the hand will not coach at another P5 school let alone become a guru at anything in the game of football.
GO RU
GO RU
Good post. A bid donor former RU prof acquaintance of mind used to remind me that during this period the academic support program (and we weren't getting R choice of recRUits to begin with, was a mess. I heard over 50 failed out during the Graber? years.
Finally a post that is not trying to change the facts.
(Look close at my Avatar) click on it.
Any way if Shea had Gary's team with Savage, Tom\
would be one of the NFL stars.
Good post except Mulcahy did not support Gary's vision, Gary supported
the vision of B.M. Bob got here a year before he hired Schiano. He spent
many many hours visiting the high school coaches wanting to know
what he could do to get them to send RU their players, which they were not doing.
The answer was give us a NJ head coach and coaches, and we promise to
send you recruits. When Gary was hired the high school coaches kept their promise.
The second thing he approached all the News Papers, and asked them
to give him a chance with his new coaches. and the hype began They submitted, and the result
was tremendous excitement. They bought into his " I have a empty cupboard,
help me out here and they did. the result was 11 years Of stupid coaching on the field.
Shea got nothing at all from Freddy G., NJ media, and the high schools)
So in conclusion we had two things. 1. the right coach at the wrong time, then
the wrong coach at the right time.
Shea would not have interfered with Savage, and the wild knight.
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