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Stanford goes down

And if Utah goes down its all but certain. Unfortunately that makes it easier for Notre dame. Stanford has to beat them.
 
If Clemson wins out they are in. If OSU or Iowa win out they are in as well. If Bama wins out they are in.

The final slot is UND vs the B12.
 
With both Temple and Stanford losing, ND's strength of schedule takes a hit.
That's a good point. I think Ok. St can and will catch them if they go undefeated with games coming up against Baylor and OU. If they don't though and it's a 1 loss B12 vs 1 loss ND then it becomes tougher.
 
ND is going to be hurt by not being a conference champ. That was the deciding factor in OSU getting in over TCU/Baylor. One was a conference champ, the others were "shared champions".
 
I can sympathize with many arguments here. B12 has no Champion game, the ACC is garbage,ND are FRAUDS, yada yada yada.

Baylor just went down. Is Ok State really going undefeated? Who know's - but I don't see it.

But someone has to get a spot in the playoffs. Its is a really down year in CFB (also in the NFL just to throw that in there).

Moz's projections

Clemson
OSU
Bama
OK Sooners -Yup, that's right

Sorry Pac12 and ND.
 
I can sympathize with many arguments here. B12 has no Champion game, the ACC is garbage,ND are FRAUDS, yada yada yada.

Baylor just went down. Is Ok State really going undefeated? Who know's - but I don't see it.

But someone has to get a spot in the playoffs. Its is a really down year in CFB (also in the NFL just to throw that in there).

Moz's projections

Clemson
OSU
Bama
OK Sooners -Yup, that's right

Sorry Pac12 and ND.
Agree and have said earlier this year that there haven't been any dominant teams this year.
My guesses right now would be
1. Clemson 2. Alabama 3. Ohio State 4. B12 team (either Ok. St or OU)

I edited my thoughts from the ND to the B12 winner. The B12 winner will likely only have 1 loss just like ND might but ND has no wins against anyone of significance except what would be a 3 loss Stanford if ND wins that. A 1 loss B12 team will have wins against some of Baylor/TCU/OU/Ok. St. So actually the B12 team probably has the inside track.
 
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OK State did not cover themselves in glory today with that performance against Iowa State. Similar with Clemson against the Cuse. Bottom line is you win and move on.
 
OK State did not cover themselves in glory today with that performance against Iowa State. Similar with Clemson against the Cuse. Bottom line is you win and move on.


November is a great month in CFB. The frauds are exposed. You are right, you win you get in. These teams have their destiny in their own hands.
 
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I edited my thoughts above. I think the B12 team whether it be OU or Ok. St has the inside track even with 1 loss. They also will have the better wins. ND's best thing is hanging their hat on a closes loss against Clemson but not any big wins and the B12 champ will have at least a couple of those.
 
I can sympathize with many arguments here. B12 has no Champion game, the ACC is garbage,ND are FRAUDS, yada yada yada.

Baylor just went down. Is Ok State really going undefeated? Who know's - but I don't see it.

But someone has to get a spot in the playoffs. Its is a really down year in CFB (also in the NFL just to throw that in there).

Moz's projections

Clemson
OSU
Bama
OK Sooners -Yup, that's right

Sorry Pac12 and ND.
I love all EXCEPT Clemson at 1 or even in the playoff..Okie does look hot now.
 
As much as I would love to see the B12 get screwed again, if ND is the beneficiary of that, then I would love to see a B12 team in the field if only to keep the Irish out. I really doubt that ND has many supporters on the committee, while the conference teams are more likely to.

Anyway, I was sorry to see Stanford go down last night since the loss might leave them with less motivation to defeat ND in a game that will likely be one week prior to the Pac12 CCG, which would have Rose Bowl implications for Stanford, if they have won the North by that time.

Oklahoma State is still undefeated but if they do have one loss by the end of the season that would likely knock them out of contention. Both TCU and Baylor seem to have issues right now so OU might be the one to emerge from this group. At this point, I can't foresee any second team from a P5 conference getting into the field since all would have at least 2 losses, except either Iowa or OSU, if both go into the CCG unbeaten. I could see a situation where, if Iowa wins, OSU might hang in at #4, but Iowa would not have that luxury.
 
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