Terry Shea coaching Josh Freeman now...
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And to think of all the sh!t Schiano took in connection with Freeman. The worst, most personal and most vocal coming from that whore beating scumbag Warren Sapp
I agree, he knows football (made mistakes as a head coach, and he's in a big club as far as this goes), but he can really help develop qb's, and has a good offensive mind..........wait, he might not be good for our pro offense, his concepts are a little to "open minded", if you will.
As what ?
The problem Rutgers had with Terry Shea had nothing to do with his knowledge of quarterback skills.
He was hired here as a HEAD COACH and as that he was a complete failure. He couldn't recruit talent to play here and he couldn't win football games. It was so bad back then when he ran our program....into the ground....that oftentimes when asked by friends why I bothered rooting for Rutgers I would struggle to come up with an answer. It was torture.
And I can never praise Greg Schiano enough for coming here and improving the program as much as he did.
Respect for those that suffered through the Shea Era with me. It was friggin bad.
Shea was not HC material. Period. Really good football guy (qb's and offense, game day quality). Schiano is big time HC material starting AFTER the post game interview and up to when the coordinators show him THEIR game plan, which is when things start to sour. Shea is not HC material, but I also want to point out the football budget doubled when Schiano took over.
Agree with Kbee on this one. Shea is a knowledgeable football guy, just not head coaching material.
Please stop! Shea did not run the program into the ground, When Terry Shea took
over the team Graber left him nothing Shea couldn't even hold a Scrimmage for
lack of players. Look up the roster he left, nothing there. I'm sure you know there
was nothing coming from the AD either, Shea and Graber had to work for Fred G. the one thing they had in common. Bob Mulcalhy came in and repaired the relationship
with the media and the high school coaches. Brought in an academic support program,
which improved all 22 sports, I know GS gets the football credit, but all the sports
did better with Freddy gone. Bob M. also brought in money and so on. Schiano
happened to come at the right time. But just couldn't complete the task. The program kept getting worst each year. to the point he couldn't even beat last place
no wins Sryacuse. Shea would have done better, if he inherited somthing, but
our program was nothing when he came, I understand he wasn't our savior,
but he doesn't deserve the " he ruined the program" crap. He could
outcoach GS on the field anytime.
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If blame is to be laid on the state of Rutgers Athletics it is at the feet of Fred Gruninger. He just decimated the athletic program.
He's a symptom, a big one but not the disease.
The disease is doing so many things in name only...
Rutgers, the STATE University of New Jersey
"Rutgers is going big time..."
"We are B1G"
Hopefully the "cure" ($$$S) happens in our future.
Yes, he "ruined the program". He got the head coaching job after the season ended in December, and went on vacation! He never tried to get to know and work with the HS football coaches in NJ. He was horrid at recruiting. He couldn't keep the kids he had in school. HE LOST 80% OF HIS GAMES!!! He went 4-31 in the Big East, including going 2-3 against Temple. Many of his games we were out of the game before halftime. He produced losses of 62-0, 55-14, 42-0, 33-0, 48-0, 50-3, 49-7, 59-19, 55-0, 70-14, 49-0, etc.
Shea was awful as a head coach. He took over a very vulnerable program and almost killed it off. Honestly , if in 1999 or 2000 Rutgers decided to go to a patriot league type of conference for football i probably would have been ok with it . Shea had got the program that bad ...but he is a great offensive mind and a good guy . Just was a disaster here . Many times I remember leaving during the second quarter of games we were getting pasted in - the 2000 Saturday night home game against Miami was the absolute worst . I hope we don't have another Saturday night like that coming up this week or on October 24. Yes , I am fearful flood may have brought us to Shea level in this respect .
That's bullchit. Terry Shea took a Rutgers program that was striving to be big-time under Graber, but not doing very well at it, and turned it into the worst D1A program...a laughing-stock. He was here for FIVE years, so you can only really give part of the blame for the lack of talent on the team to Graber for the first couple of years. As someone in this thread already pointed out, perhaps Shea would have had more success if his first move on getting the job wasn't taking a vacation. Contrast that with how Schiano approached the job when he first got it.
I've heard any number of guys who know way more than I do about football say that 90% of college football coaching is recruiting. Terry Shea was awful at recruiting. I knew we were in trouble when he couldn't even successfully recruit his own son. He wasn't from the area; Schiano is. And Schiano was able to use his contacts in Florida to attract a nice bunch of talent to play for Rutgers. Who did Shea get with HIS contacts....Perris Verduzco ?
I've heard people who heard GS speak and swore they were ready to run through a brick wall for the guy after listening to him. Listening to Terry Shea talk only made one feel like taking a nap. And don't forget that GS had the Miami D on his resume'. That meant more back in 2000 than it does now. But it's still helpful.
And as far as GS not completing the task....well poof....wake up...you're dreaming. Rutgers has already achieved more than I thought possible while sitting back in the old stadium watching them play Colgate, Princeton, and Columbia.. If you think Rutgers is ever gonna successfully compete with the Ohio State's and Alabama's of the college football world...well....you must be related to Rutgersal. People in New Jersey don't care enough about Rutgers football...or Rutgers at all for that matter. Just ask them.
Greg Schiano DID finish the job. This is it. Big Ten membership, a winning record and a bowl game every year. The fact that you don't seem to comprehend that has to make for nothing but disappointment and unhappiness for you on Saturdays. Life's too short. Perhaps you should find another hobby. Urban Meyer isn't coming here.
If I was, I would be saying this, Saying my father could not recruit his own son
is a bunch of bull. I was a Ohio State freshman when Dad was offered the job.
and did come here, right?
By the way I offered to stay with the team, and Schiano's reply was Shea's
player are bunch of losers and no thanks. He repeatedly called all the players
losers, and the results were 50 to 80 point loses. The guy was way out of line
and never learned how to treat people and coach. My DAD was hired a few
days before Christmas and several days later arrived at Rutgers with a
full coaching staff. That was not a vacation he work his as off, stop with the
revisionist history. By the way, many of his first class never made the team,
and most did not make 4 years. Terry never talked about the empty
cupboard he arrived at, unlike Greg who never topped reminding people.
His people skills got him fired in two years at Tampa Bay.
Sounds like you hate Schiano.
He produced losses of 62-0, 55-14, 42-0, 33-0, 48-0, 50-3, 49-7, 59-19, 55-0, 70-14, 49-0, etc.
That's a great game time coach. Who can be worst than that? Surprise that there were any fans left after that performance.
Sad ain't it? I was living in Florida when TERRY was our HC. I would come up for a couple of 2-3 weeks each Fall,go to my Grandsons' POP WARNER or H.S. games.,grab the oldest guy and head up to RU to watch a home game.Now that was SAD. BUT it was RU and that's my team.
GS did do a great job turning this program around but by no means, did he did not finish the task. I do not expect this program to compete with OSU and Alabama on a yearly basis, but there really is no reason why this program can't blossom into a program like Northwestern (who went to the Rose Bowl only to get blown out by Keyshawn's USC team) or TCU or Cincinnati or Louisville or Boise State. Give me a break, UConn even went to the Orange Bowl. And yes, I do think that Rutgers can make the Rose Bowl once in about 15 years.
You left out coach of the year, just leave out anything you want. Being in Florida
you didn,t really know what the true probalems with Rutgers were, just continue to
hate it solves everything.
You left out Schiano's 80 to 7 and 60 to 0 etc. Oh I know what you are going
to say it was Terry's fault, but Terry's losses were not Graber's or Freddy's fault
in was all on Terry./
" You must hate Schiano" No not at all I just think he burned out here,
and just don,t need Schiano two. There would be 2000 people on this board
after some of his awful losses, I wasn't one who bashed him like the other
thousands. I made it a point not to. But years later I tire of all the blame going
to Shea, I was here everygame, every newspaper article etc. No need to
blame everything on him. He might have been the wrong coach at the wrong
place. Not the wrong coach at the right place, at the time.
Wow, lots of raw nerves being rubbed in this thread.
Shea was a good X's and O's coach, but did a terrible job on the recruiting trail. You can't blame Graber for us going 1-10 in 1999 or 3-8 in 2000.
Graber got great talent to come to RU but could not keep them eligible. Shea never got many big name players to come here at all.
I would be fine with Shea coaching our QBs.
Shea was a good X's and O's coach, but did a terrible job on the recruiting trail. You can't blame Graber for us going 1-10 in 1999 or 3-8 in 2000.
Graber got great talent to come to RU but could not keep them eligible. Shea never got many big name players to come here at all.
I would be fine with Shea coaching our QBs.
