and despite the bold predictions Sunday afternoon of coach in hand, seems not to be the case. That changed quickly. Hopefully the firing and wait is worth it for our dear Rutgers. In the meantime, our new AD has made a promising first impression, which often is a good omen.
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Earlier today it looked like Cristobal. Now it looks kike Diaco. No more Schiano.
Some posters who stated that we would have coach by Monday or Tuesday at the latest.
There are folks that say the same thing about every candidate mentioned. Everyone has their choice but we can only hire one. Hopefully once the decision is made everyone will rally around the new coach.
The firing was most definitely worth it...and beyond deserved. This program was going off the tracks and something had to be done.
As far as who the new coach will be, nobody really knows anything beyond the rumors that are out there, and those seem to change by the hour. (And just for the record, neither Cristobal, Golden, or Diaco do all that much for me, but that's just my take.) -That said, somebody's got to be chosen, and he'll have my support to be given a fair shot to show what he can do.
Until the new guy's announced, though, it's all just pure speculation that's gonna be all over the place, which is par for the course during a coaching search.
As far as who the new coach will be, nobody really knows anything beyond the rumors that are out there, and those seem to change by the hour. (And just for the record, neither Cristobal, Golden, or Diaco do all that much for me, but that's just my take.) -That said, somebody's got to be chosen, and he'll have my support to be given a fair shot to show what he can do.
Until the new guy's announced, though, it's all just pure speculation that's gonna be all over the place, which is par for the course during a coaching search.
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my guess is that originally the administration would have a quick Schiano hire..... things did not get going as thought, Greg
wanted to look around, possibly other issues not anticipated
....so our search, while declaring it to be a quick one, has slowed down..... we still might hire
a lot quicker than other programs with coaches fired a while back.
I still can't get over we made two fires and a hire in one day, although I realize it was already in the works. That's very impressive for us. Although I'm as anxious as everyone else, The recent horrible RU coaching hires tend to albatrosses that we can't seem to ever get rid of. I'd rather take more time and get it as right as can be.
Exactly. And most of the schools to make a hire already have kept their interim coach on as head coach. It's not like RU is dragging its feet.
Schools like Miami and Maryland fired coaches weeks ago and haven't made hires yet. But people think RU is slow?
Schools like Miami and Maryland fired coaches weeks ago and haven't made hires yet. But people think RU is slow?
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I don't know...... I do know we always had search committees in the past and it was a lengthy process, even putting the committee together.
Again, my guess that the original blurb on the 48 hour selection was because it would have been Schiano offered and accepting..... Of course Schiano threw a monkey wrench into that
Once there was no immediate Schiano hire it would have been very hard for us to make any 48 hour hire.... The 48 hour blurb was extended to a week, 10 days.
We apparently hired a consulting firm to screen and inquire candidates this time ..I believe we have used both internal searches and consulting firms at times in the past.
This time it looks more like a outside consulting firm giving a suggestions to the university president,the ad, and Mr Brown, and those three decide.
I think these rumors about timing have little basis. If you believe that they are seriously courting the biggest names available - I.e that they reached out to Schiano, Richt, etc - then obviously we don't control the timing.
I would assume we won't have our guy until at least after the Miami job is filled, and possibly until after these candidates have checked out UVA and USCe. If they wanted richt, and he is willing to come sit down, he may have not even gotten to NJ yet.
I would assume we won't have our guy until at least after the Miami job is filled, and possibly until after these candidates have checked out UVA and USCe. If they wanted richt, and he is willing to come sit down, he may have not even gotten to NJ yet.
since I heard Schiano on Wed your assessment seems accurate (not that my source was anything special...a source from a source LOL ....just that they got the firing spot on)
There is no search committee. There was no plan for a search committee. This was very clear in Barchi's statement announcing Flood's firing: "The search for a new Head Football Coach will begin immediately and will be led by Pat Hobbs, with input from Greg Brown, Ken Schmidt, and me."
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As my last sentence in my post said, although a too long winded post for sure
But then there were reports that Rutgers was working with a consulting firm for the search. Why hire a firm if you knew you wanted to go after Schiano?
From: http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...at-hobbs-view-rutgers-football-hire/76572504/
"Hobbs said Rutgers is working with an unnamed consulting firm with a “tremendous reputation” to help with the search. Rutgers Board of Governors chair Greg Brown and vice chair Ken Schmidt, both of whom Hobbs met for the first time last week, also have strong voices."
Other reports have indicated that no offers have been made to anyone, much less Schiano. I realize reports can be wrong, but I wonder if they are taking a good look at the landscape before jumping in.
Search firm and search committee are two different things.
I think the rumors that Schiano was the first choice are just internet rumors. As you say, there is no need for a search firm if your only target is Schiano. And since the search firm was brought on board very quickly after Flood was fired, or possibly even before, it is not a stretch to assume that if Schiano was the only target then he would have been contacted prior to bringing in a search firm. The fact that Schiano was not named as head coach at the same time that Hobbs was named AD indicates that Rutgers, Schiano, or both, are looking at other options.
True. I think many people here "assumed" that Rutgers immediately went after Schiano with an offer. That doesn't appear to be the case. If these reports are true, that may never have been the plan at all.
Highly skeptical of the idea that Schiano was instantly contacted. If you methodically walk through the logic of the situation and the chain of events that got us here, it does not make a great case for Schiano. If part of KF's & JH's departure was advanced by elements of the deep-dive investigation into what has been going on over time in the program, even if the issues are all correctable & if the correction, resolution & remediation would satisfy any overseeing body - it is likely that some elements may trace back to the GS era. ... So, the difficulty is that if your position is that "we have fixed this & every person of authority & responsibility involved with it is no longer associated with the University" .... it might be problematic if, with great fanfare, you bring back somebody who might have had a connection to these unacceptable practices.
That may be a stretch imo. I think it's more likely that these problems started under Flood as a guy thrown into a head coaching situation without experience like that. Schiano wanted to be a coach when he worked under Miami and Penn State. He was more prepared. Flood wasn't.
If the issues were items that arguably could have been in the 'gray zone' - if the egregious aspect was not so much the issue itself, but that it represented activity that did not properly follow the policy& procedure for such matters - it may well have been a long standing pattern of activity.
This not to say that Schiano was willfully violating anything. However, if the investigation turned up a number of 'process' issues that represented deviations from some policy & procedure manual, it is unlikely that they all just originated in the past 48 months. Would guarantee you that there probably were some fairly innocuous policy violations that have been going on for years - there always are.
Yes, Schiano, with experience at Penn State & Miami was far, far better prepared than Flood .
Not saying that Schiano was cutting corners - but, if Flood somehow never, ever had the 'training session on how & why not to have inappropriate contact with faculty members" it would seem that a few questions could be posed to Schiano as to how /why Schiano never made him do this over the years that Flood reported up to him. To be totally objective - all the lame-ass excuses that JH might have offered as to why direct-report Flood never did the training - are still lame-ass excuses if Schiano used them.
