UConn Goes Down
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By Western US standards, it's not such a long drive from Tucson. Had RU advanced, I would have considered going over to cheer on the Knights. I have no connection to the UofA aside from living in the same town for the past 3 years but I was definitely pulling for them to upset UConn.
yea, Geno lost his energy a few years back.
Game is passing him bye, slowly, he's in decline and should let a youthful energetic replacement take over for UConn's sake
At 67 he's showing that coaches his age should drop down to the assistant level and help young energized HCs , if Geno wants to remain in the game
Barnes at 44 is the epitome of what a College WBB HC should be.
Geno is an example of hanging on two long and having the game pass him by
Could be that and changing of the guard.
Schools start gaining respect and the respected ones don't have as easy as a time they used to have.
So those schools a notch or two below the top programs like Arizona, move up to be almost, if not, equal to the top programs like UConn while the top programs find it harder to remain above the fray ( so to speak)
Heck I'm still finding t hard to look at the UofA as the top College WBB program in Arizona
Thought Charli Turner Thorne would keep the ASU WBB team above the Tuscon competition,
but Barnes proved a real good one and made it the other way after turning the Wildcat WBB program from a terrible one into what it is today
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When we moved here, we embraced all things Arizona without giving up our Rutgers fandom. Admittedly, our Rutgers enthusiasm was limited to WBB, football and softball (a bit). Here we added Arizona Volleyball to the list. While I have more U of A gear (because so much RU stuff was "winter") I still have RU shirts which I wore as appropriate during football season, etc. It is possible to root for 2 teams.
We have friends on the other side of town who are both Rutgers and Arizona fans; we also have friends we met at Women's Basketball who are die hard UConn fans, as well as Arizona fans. In fact, the husband was pictured supporting football on the cover of one of the Arizona publications.
Mad - I’m assuming you would have zero issues with me saying the same thing, just replacing “Geno” with “CVS”, and changing “is passing” to “already passed”?
I’d take UConn’s style of play and recruiting success anyday.
that was my sarcastic parroting of what's being said about CVS.
As for Geno, you wouldn't hear a peep of complaint from me if Hobbs brought him in to replace C.Vivian Stringer.
Already passed is too strong an opinion because of the last 3 years W-L record.
But because of the NCAA appearance that doesn't make Stringer look good, saying next year show you can be a force in the Tourney or accept the game isn't the same when you were on top of your game and you're not what you used to be when it comes to Coaching the game the way it is now .
RU WBB needs to be in a position that it's fans get more than one and done tourney appearances.
But Vivian deserves to be able toi prove she still has it in her to get the job done and make a good run in the tourney. Showing the doubters she still got game..
Could be right but match his resume at UConn and head to head with Rutgers WBB. There is a big difference. The same holds true though after a certain point it becomes repetitious. Only problem is CVS is nearing the end of a HOF career.
Actually, as I said to Turtle, that was a bit of sarcasm and and I don't believe Geno is losing it.
What I do believe is: more College WBB coaches are catching up to him in ability and though Geno is not slipping others are just proving they are top notched now more then in the past
As for CVS , I believed she stayed with her coaching style that was extremely successful years ago too long.
It was still a winner but some HCs had strategies that made it harder in the last 10 years for Vivian to continue to be as successful as before and Stringer didn't stray far enough from her comfort zone to keep RU one of the top programs.
A winning program, yes, but not one that could be considered the type that could take it all like RU was years ago under her.
Now Stringer is tweaking her coaching strategy a bit better, but needs to catch up with the top coaching talent ASAP because of her age.
If she expects another shot at the top.CVS needs to prove she can be that one next season , or her and Hobbs must make an honest evaluation of Rutgers future with C.Vivian Stringer at the helm and if it's felt Vivian is still able to take RU all the way, Stringer comes back.
Maybe CVS might need to think herself as Head Coach Emeritus helping her replacement with the transition into a WBB program under new leadership if there's a qusetion of her ability to have a program ready for a deep tourney run with her coaching style.
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Exactly what I posted the other day. This year make it a tour season and perhaps go out in style. She has never struck me as a “ it’s time to hangem up gal.” Her mentor John Chaney was of the exact same mindset. I remember the game at the RAC where he was going absolutely bonkers as we kicked their ass.
Oh, so you think Hobbs will convince her to remain coaching and put aside the Coach Emeritus idea.
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Regarding Geno - I don't think he's slipping and I don't think other coaches are "catching up". If you look at the games he lost in the FF, you had 2 last minute losses. And then there is Arizona - which, if you think about it, won for the same reasons Rutgers had wins - tough defense that UConn couldn't prep for. All not helped by the weaker conference UConn plays in.
Vivian's on-court issues are not the concept; execution and "tweaking" perhaps, but concept isn't different than what got Arizona as far as it did.
Sometimes coaches won't leave without a firm push.
I don't think CVS deserves that treatment yet.
If Hobbs feels Stringer needs to be replaced ASAP, I'm of the opinion he'll do and not be cowered.
Not in a million years. He would be skewered by the press and CVS admirer era and fellow female coaches like Dawn Staley and sports announcers
That would be unfair. Truly.
That said, in spite of various fans viewpoint and aspirations - even if all are 100% true - that times have changed, CVS will never return to the level of success of the 1st decade of the 2000's, and all the rest - and that all that is unsatisfactory - the bottom line is that the program is not "so bad" that a change of coach is required. I just read an article about tOSU and McGuff and his vaunted lack of success not getting him replaced. That's the point, really. CVS due to her history has "cred" that hasn't been destroyed.
A lot comes down to this - if Hobbs is committed to Rutgers WBB competing at the highest levels - then he almost has to make a public decision, which might or might not be to make a change, his decision. If he just wants the program to be "good" and is ok with that, well then he would be foolish to take the PR hit and make a change because we are still there.
I disagree with your post. Just listen to the news of the day. Everything reported is racist even the most ludicrous examples. Hobbs would be crucified for forcing her retirement and I would hate to be in his shoes. I would not make a decision to replace her.
100% agree, if you are replying to me, read my post a bit more carefully. I said it was unfair that he would be crucified. Not that he wouldn't. I also said if he wants a top tier situation, he needs to make a decision - I didn't say to replace CVS, only that he needs to make a decision. Basically, making a plan. Alternatively he can just let the status quo ride. Rutgers will remain as good as they are, presumably.
Where we disagree - or not - is that I don't think her performance would mandate termination, even if she wasn't CVS. Fans want a higher level success and that's fine, but if Hobbs is willing to accept this level of success - and many schools would - how many schools get postseason bids - it is what it is. Check out the records of the coaches that were fired this year.
I personally would not make a change, for numerous reasons. But I do understand that not every fan agrees.
