a player allegedly raped a girl on VALENTINES DAY.. She reported it and he finally got suspended today pending an investigation. That school is a piece of shit.
Unfortunately, this is truePlease change the title of this thread. UNC in trouble again applies they got in trouble the first time
No idea how someone could be a fan of a program like that.
You're joking rightNo idea how someone could be a fan of a program like that.
No idea how someone could be a fan of a program like that.
Charleston Southern will sit another 30 guys this weekend.
That will show UNC once and for all.
F the NCAA. Spineless to the money makers, assholes to the weak.
Bull, it is what it is. This is a very big issue for universities and colleges right now. They may be in a lot of trouble.Keep your bigotry to yourself.
Rape not a big deal down south. The police want the football teams to win first.
The only way the girl can win is sue the player if he makes it in the NFL.
Seriously? Do you really mean that?
UNC was my dream school growing up as a kid in Greensboro, NC. Moved to Jersey before 9th grade in 2001 and went to Rutgers, and stopped paying attention to Carolina so much. What a shame how tarnished they've become. Everyone down there saw UNC in such high regard, with such pride, back when I lived there in the 90's, compare that to Jersey where everyone who has no connection to RU views it with disdain, how their tax dollars are paying for the football coach's salary. It could not be more opposite.
Could not agree more. Moving to S.C. Could not believe the state pride in the Universities. The kids here WANT to attend the state schools. Very different from self loathing NJ folks who somehow see the State University as beneath them. My take, parents piss away money for the so called "prestige" of BC, BU, etc. NothingUNC was my dream school growing up as a kid in Greensboro, NC. Moved to Jersey before 9th grade in 2001 and went to Rutgers, and stopped paying attention to Carolina so much. What a shame how tarnished they've become. Everyone down there saw UNC in such high regard, with such pride, back when I lived there in the 90's, compare that to Jersey where everyone who has no connection to RU views it with disdain, how their tax dollars are paying for the football coach's salary. It could not be more opposite.
UNC was my dream school growing up as a kid in Greensboro, NC. Moved to Jersey before 9th grade in 2001 and went to Rutgers, and stopped paying attention to Carolina so much. What a shame how tarnished they've become. Everyone down there saw UNC in such high regard, with such pride, back when I lived there in the 90's, compare that to Jersey where everyone who has no connection to RU views it with disdain, how their tax dollars are paying for the football coach's salary. It could not be more opposite.
No idea how someone could be a fan of a program like that.
Without doubt, UNC is "the" university for the state of NC. Established in 1789, it proclaims itself to be the nation's oldest state university. Maybe, in a sense. Families trace their ties to and support of UNC back many many generations, so its a legacy dynamic for Carolinians, which explains the school's hefty $3B endowment.
As such, its fan base also has that history, from when competitive collegiate sports became a "thing" in the late 19th-early 20th centuries. Carolinians are "all in" when it comes to their beloved Heels. And that's the rub: UNC can do no wrong. Winning is above all. Ethics be damned. It's power base and influence are supreme, across all government and industry. The emergence of "The Carolina Way" (courtesy of Dean Smith) is a symptom of that mindset: a self-aggrandized institutional persona touting its core integrity and strict honor code, of doing things the right way, always, a model for others to admire and aspire to. It's make believe, of course. It's a lie.
Anyway, in NJ, "Dear Old" Rutgers never held that position. Princeton and other IV schools were the "shared"-NJ equivalent of UNC, with loyalties in NJ distributed among them, and legacy followings as well. Rutgers was the working man's school. Still is? Powerful families sent their heirs elsewhere. In NC, you went to UNC.
Duke, as an aside, became Duke University when the Duke (tobacco) family made a mega-gift to Durham's Trinity College (1859); the College of New Jersey (Princeton) was offered the Duke $ before Trinity College, but the NJ school was unwilling to agree to stipulations involving architectural standards, if my fading memory serves me.
Davidson, Wake, Warren Wilson are all fine NC schools, but far removed from UNC in terms of statewide support.
NC State is a land grant school with a traditional focus on agriculture and engineering. State and the rest of the UNC system schools take a back seat to UNC-CH. Always have. Likely always will. That said, some cutting edge science and technology advances have helped solidify State's second place standing. SAS Institute and CREE exemplify the State success stories and standing.
Other UNC system schools including Wilmington, Asheville, Appalachian, Greensboro have solid support, but are "Tier 3" behind (1) UNC and (2) NCSU. UNC-Charlotte is a bit different, still.
And then there are the "historical" African-American schools in the system (NCCU, NCA&T, Fayetteville State, Elizabeth City, etc.). That "Tier 4" was created by the state (UNC) to serve another purpose.
Remember the UNC/Duke rivalries we would have back in school, when Jamison/Vince Carter were in school, and Duke had guys like Battier/Elton Brand, and even Laettner further back. Most kids were UNC fans, and all the rich kids rooted for Duke. I despised Duke growing up, the way most of this board hates Penn State. I was a big Wake Forest fan too as a kid, went there for basketball camp the year after Duncan graduated, couldn't believe how tall the kids were lol, I was like 5'3" at 12 and my roommate must've been over 6 feet. Remember Dave Odom teaching us a few drills and then they broke us up into teams to play in a tournament. Remember how beautiful Wake's campus was, and how I didn't wanna leave. Those were great times.
I think they've already made that choice and their choice was to protect Football and Basketball above all else. Just look at the fake classes allegations. Instead of deciding to self impose penalties(they were caught red handed), they chose to stall and lawyer up. Hell one of their defenses was that since they stalled some of the allegations were past the statue of limitations.I think, for the most part, UNC is still a good school academically. However, there is a huge divide between what is expected of their students vs. their student athletes.
If they opt not to deal with these problems to protect football or basketball, then they run the very real risk of destroying the reputation of the ENTIRE school.
The choice is theirs, but I'm afraid of the decision they will make. I think punishments need to come down, and they need to be severe. This is becoming a sick joke.
a player allegedly raped a girl on VALENTINES DAY.. She reported it and he finally got suspended today pending an investigation. That school is a piece of shit.