Hate Hurley and hate Seton Hall. Glad URI won. I do love the way they play.
URI 75 Seton Hall 74
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Screw shu. I actually lost some of my hate for them recently but went over to their board yesterday and it reminded me of their inferiority complex. What a bunch of losers.
Rhode went small and won...Sanders, Gio and Williams...
They did it without EC Matthews. They also had to overcome some star treatment afforded Delgado by the officials.
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Delgado is a beast...but he sure does whine a lot
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Hes an idiot. I actually think he truly doesnt know all the rules, he cant be that dumb
You mean the "no defense" URI team, you like how they play?
I watched most of that game, curious to see SHU. I have no idea what to make of either team. Both teams have some excellent athleticism, of course. URI was RIDICULOUS with its 3-point shooting in the 1st half: Hitting just about every 3-pointer they took, even well-contested 3's. And URI hit its 1st 16 FT's, I think. They cooled down quite a bit in the 2nd half, but somehow still managed to find a way to win in the end. Both teams make some real head-scratching passing and shooting decisions.
URI went the 1st 35-36 minutes of the game playing Delgado 1 on 1 without help ... and Delgado pretty much scored every time he was posted up 1 on 1 ... yet SHU did not get the ball to him in the post every (or nearly every) possession. Thus, URI got away with that strategy. On the other hand, Powell (for SHU) is a heckuva shooter.
I say all this making no judgment on how RU might fare against SHU - except that I would think it is a very difficult match-up for RU. We know SHU is at least pretty good, and we know RU has a ways to go before being even good (let alone pretty good). But ... you never know, any given game, etc.
Agree with you about the B1G being down (or let’s say not as good as expected) but I’m not sure about he Big East. Nova, Xavier, Creighton, and Seton Hall haved looked pretty impressive. To me, only DePaul and Georgetown look weak.
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I love how URI plays. They are an extremely tough bunch of players who all play bigger than they are. And they all seem to be a threat to score. True, they do try to outgun you but that style is ok with that type of team. They are not a methodical team with traditional big men that’s more common in the B1G. They will be a very tough out.
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It's like the 5th place game of a tournament, Purdue probably doesn't care. Also WKU almost beat #5 Villanova yesterday. They are no joke
Player for player, Purdue is VERY tough. They substitute 7-2 Haas with 7-3 Haarms. and both are good. Both Edwards’ are good too.
Tennessee was relentless against them and neutralized the big men by being way quicker and more aggresive around the rim. Haas doesn’t move his feet well, IMO. Tennessee killed them on the boards. They will be challenged with teams like this that are quicker and talented. Tennessee had already played 11 men during the first 8 minutes of the game and came at them in waves like Pitino’s old Louisville teams.
I don't think the Big East is down. I actually think it's a real good very balanced conference. The Big 10 is down and is not impressing me to date - though granted season is still early. We'll see how Big 10 does in ACC Challenge.
Nova and Xavier look good. Not sold on the others, but I can certainly see your point. But that’s only 4 teams. I was not impressed with Providence, whomis suppsoed to be the other top-tier team in conference.
Big10 has only MSU and MN at the top. I don’t think SHU is any better than Purdue and not as good as MN. But, what do I know.
Hardly scientific, but the Gavit Games had pretty favorable matchups for the Big East and they only ended up 4-4 against the Big 10. I think the ACC is better than both conferences this year.
I mostly agree with you. The top teams are comparable. I think MSU, Minn. Purdue and Maryland/NW compares more or less equally to Nova, Xavier, Creghton, and Seton Hall.
But IMO the Big East is stronger because I think the remaining 6 Big East teams are stronger than the remaining 10 teams in the B1G. The B1G becomes “bottom-heavy” because it has a higher percentage of mediocre teams..but that’s just my opinion, and it’s still early.
I was a little surprised to see the B1Gs RPI was only 7th as of today.. even behind the MVC ....that’s pretty bad.
Of course. This gets harder to improve once the league games kick in. The league needs a good showing next week.
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SHU is talented and strong, but their on ball defense leaves a lot to be desired as well as their defensive intensity. URI isn't that good to score more than 50 against them in a half. We might have a shot here.
Once we beat them we'll be looking at them in the rear view mirror forever.
Fair point about the bottom. I’m certainly hoping RU surprises and rises up from the bottom, but that may be wishful thinking. I think PSU and OSU may end up being pretty good, but the Huskers look bad and so does IU, but with a new coach they may improve a lot by mid season.
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Yup, they graduated desi, delgado and carrington, starting in 2018 theyll be in our rearview. Would be tremendousss to beat them this yr
A real rivalry is when you're happy when the rival loses. We don't have it in football, but we sure as hell do in basketball. Thank you Rhody.
As Bill Maher would say--he's a "whiny little bitch." BTW I was thinking the same thing; man he whines a lot.
"pretty good" is better than "good" for you? For me, "pretty good" means not up to the level of "good."
And here's a really funny thing. In Commonwealth countries, "quite good" means less than "good." Quite kind of means "not quite" in English English. A person who is "quite tall" isn't really tall. I'm not kidding. Pretty good, huh?
Several of our players shoot like the lights are out.
I watched a good portion of the second half and obviously it must have been much different than the first half. Both teams played hard in the second half but at times the play was downright ugly. SHU has a lot of good pieces but there seemed to be an over reliance on 1 on 1 situations for Carrington, Rodriguez and Delgado versus moving the ball and setting up guys for open shots. You need to force Carrington and Rodriguez to the right and not allow Delgado to set up deep in the low post otherwise it is over. Huge challenge for RU and one that I am not sure we are ready for. Again just keep improving against ECU and give FSU a game next week. Then we will know more about where we stand.
I thought this was the year SHU takes Villanova in part because Villanova lost a lot and I did not think they would be as strong. Watching the second half of their game with Tennessee yesterday, I think they have reloaded well and will remain tough to dislodge at the top of the BE. SHU normally plays them tough and will make it as physical as the refs allow. Should be interesting to watch.
I thought this was the year SHU takes Villanova in part because Villanova lost a lot and I did not think they would be as strong. Watching the second half of their game with Tennessee yesterday, I think they have reloaded well and will remain tough to dislodge at the top of the BE. SHU normally plays them tough and will make it as physical as the refs allow. Should be interesting to watch.
We will probably have trouble keeping Delgado from getting so close to the basket. He is very strong. Last year Gettys being a big guy was able to keep him a little bit farther from the basket (especially in the first half). I hope Doucoure and Doorson can do this without getting too many fouls. It would help if we could get a few fouls on Delgado. Sa I think being quite thin will have more of a problem. Omoruyi might not be tall enough to guard Delgado but I would not be too surprised to see that for a few minutes. We could see a lot of different guys trying to guard him. who knows, Nathan might even get a few minutes if the others get into foul trouble. It will be interesting to see Corey and Geo guarding Carrington and Powell. I wonder who will guard who?
Doorson could be very useful against a player like Delgado. Delgado is excellent, but relies more on his size, strength and good footwork than outright quickness. A 6'11" to 7' big body like Doorson, playing solid position defense, might be a useful defender against Delgado. Gettys, by the way, did poorly against Delagdo last year, I seem to remember - drew fouls quickly. But Doorson, though not as skilled in many ways as was Gettys, is not as slow as was Gettys. Almost any post player could outquick Gettys, for all of Gettys' strengtts and positive attributes he brought to RU last year.
Rutgers' defensive style is MUCH more based on aggressive team help defense and defensive rotation than is URI's defensive style ... that has both advantages and disadvantages, by the way.
RU has SEVEN games before they play SHU, so plenty of time to worry about that game later ... including Florida State, Minny and Michigan State.
Seton Hall will be a bad matchup for Rutgers because they have scorers at every position and senior leadership.
If Doorson covers DelGado he'll score 50 with 10 3's. DelGado is a great player. Doorson could never step out and cover him. We really don't have a good match up for him - no one does, that's what makes him so good.
Not to jump on you but this is a little clueless. Delgado is not a three point shooter at all, even if he'd like to be. Through 5 games, he has one (1) 3 point attempt, which he missed. Doorson is perfectly capable of guarding Delgado if the help defense does what it should.
You think Doorson, a guy who can barely move can cover DelGado, and I'm clueless - pretty funny. And Delgado can shoot from anywhere, including the three point line if he needs to. He's so good inside he doesn't need to. The only place Doorson can cover DelGado is about three feet and in, and I'm not even sure about that.
I think you are both right. Delgado doesn’t shoot 3s AND Doorson can’t cover him. He’s too slow and He’ll foul out in 10 minutes.
We’ll need lots of help..but then the their guards will kill us. Bad matchup but I hope we keep it close at home.
I’m curious to watch us finally play a real team in Tuesday, although FSU is not nearly as good as Seton Hall.
Delgado is not a great 3 point shooter. Somehow I think RU would like him to shoot threes to pull him away from the basket.
Ok, I'll look forward to Delgado raining down his first 10 three pointers of the year with Doorson covering ;)
If you actually watched games last year, you would know that a healthy Doorson is a good post defender. Whether Pikiell thinks he is far enough along in knocking the rust off to stick him on Delgado for most of the game remains to be seen.
You are underestimating Doorson's defense when healthy. He can wall up on less mobile bigs very well. Delgado, for sure, will get his scoring average on anybody if they feed him the ball well. And if he goes for 18 with Doorson covering, doesn't mean he sucks.
SHU will be fine.....they played a very good NCAA team that is similar in talent. No shame in that loss for them
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