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USC & UCLA to Big Ten

If I were Purdue and Northwestern this map would make me nervous. BIG needs more west coast and they are not primary in their state. If ND comes does the BIG keep three teams in Indiana? I really don't like going past 16 as it becomes more of an alliance than a conference. 16 lets you do pods with three rivals every year and the other 12 every other year.
Seriously, we have fans inviting Stanford for no reason and talking about dumping Northwestern. It is definitely silly season.
 
I haven't been on the SyracuseFAN.com forum in quite a while.

It's funny to see them start out saying that Rutgers should be nervous about USC/UCLA joining the B1G, then slowly realizing that Siberiacuse is not going anywhere, isn't as good a market or team and finally one of their regular posters saying that he would come on this forum to start an "All inclusive Sibercuse Dumpster Fire" thread.
 
If I were Purdue and Northwestern this map would make me nervous. BIG needs more west coast and they are not primary in their state. If ND comes does the BIG keep three teams in Indiana? I really don't like going past 16 as it becomes more of an alliance than a conference. 16 lets you do pods with three rivals every year and the other 12 every other year.
20 gets you 4 pods also
 
That's the strongest rumor out there right now, although I can't stand arrogant ND, I have to admit they would bring in TV viewers. And Stanford would bring in the San Francisco - San Jose market. Both are super academic schools
Not important in the long run ($$$$$), but IMO this is huge and fits in with the rest of the B10.
 
Still monitoring OJ’s Twitter…
He’s probably too dumbfounded at the fact that USC is now in the BigTen to post about it yet.
 
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Coast-to-Coast or Conference-to-Champions…. C2C (pronounced sea to sea)?
 
One way to lessen the travel burden on the Olympic sports is to have groups of teams play each other at one host university. Meaning, Rutgers, Illinois, and UCLA soccer teams would travel together to Penn State. Each of the 4 teams would play each other in some span of time (7 days?). Next UCLA would host another group (say Michigan, OSU, and USC). And so on.
 
Carol Folt is the USC president. She was also the Chancellor at UNC when they slithered away from punishment for the school's 23+ years of cheating via fake classes and grades for athletes. And she was accepting of throwing academics under the bus to unburden athletics and boosters. Accepted academic probation vs athletic sanctions. She's a complete cheat. USC? A monied private school. Perfect for this academic "leader."
 
Another article with reference to an industry source and Oregon/Washington and not so enthusiastic about them. Regardless though you’d think the B10 won’t want USC/UCLA to be lone outposts. Maybe a longer revenue share period for Oregon/Wash as was suggested in the first article.

From the article:

With or without Notre Dame, one industry source doubted there was value for the Big Ten in inviting Oregon and/or Washington. That source went so far as to call the two schools "tweeners," not big enough to justify the $80 million-$100 million annual media rights fees but clearly better than other Pac-12 schools.

 
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Carol Folt is the USC president. She was also the Chancellor at UNC when they slithered away from punishment for the school's 23+ years of cheating via fake classes and grades for athletes. And she was accepting of throwing academics under the bus to unburden athletics and boosters. Accepted academic probation vs athletic sanctions. She's a complete cheat. USC? A monied private school. Perfect for this academic "leader."
This was a more clear case than I made for Flood to Bama and now Texas. You dressed in disguise and met a prof many miles from campus to try to keep a player eligible? Shake my hand, happy to meet ya.. you'll fit right in.
 
The B1G membership will have 10 schools among universities with the largest living alumni base in the US
1 Penn State
2 Indiana
3 Michigan
4 Michigan State
5 UCLA
6 Ohio State
8 Rutgers
10 Purdue
13 Wisconsin
14 Illinois

In addition to location, size clearly matter when it comes to media rights.

Other schools rounding out the top 15 alumni are Cal, Texas, NYU, Texas A&M and Florida.
 
Today (1 July 2022) Finebaum had this to say … “When Rutgers plays, there aren’t 15 people watching”.
Paul … Paul … Paul.
He can’t be happy about the Big Ten expansion.
One thing that sticks in my head from back in preB1G RU discussions,

The highest ESPN ratings for CFB were always Birmingham and a bunch of smaller cities in the South and they were shares over 10. When RU played on ESPN networks their share was around a 1.

Rutgers’ 1 share in the NY market added up to more actual viewers than the ESPN top ten highest rating college football markets added together.
 
One thing that sticks in my head from back in preB1G RU discussions,

The highest ESPN ratings for CFB were always Birmingham and a bunch of smaller cities in the South and they were shares over 10. When RU played on ESPN networks their share was around a 1.

Rutgers’ 1 share in the NY market added up to more actual viewers than the ESPN top ten highest rating college football markets added together.

Rutgers highest TV ratings blew out everything else college football related in NYC save the national championship games and I think we even beat one of those. Our 1st BTN game got BTN the highest ratings ever in NYC.

All that matters is that B1G and FOX are fully aware of this and ESPN and the SEC are butt hurt about it.
 
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I took a look at the remaining teams in the largest remaining markets (or with the largest national following) and came up with a list of 14 possible targets that could make sense and would fit in with the BIG (AAU, etc.).

Notre Dame
Texas
Oklahoma
Florida
Florida State
Stanford
California
Oregon
Washington
North Carolina
Colorado
Arizona
Virginia
Georgia Tech


The problem is I think only about the top 5 would actually increase the BIG's net payout for each of the 16 schools already in the conference, while adding any of the others could result in a reduced payout to each school and may prohibit their inclusion.

Of the top 5 that would actually enrich the conference, 3 are already in the SEC so I am not sure they can be poached. As much as I think we should add 2 more west coast teams, I just don't think it makes financial sense if they mean taking a pay cut, unless its a package deal with Notre Dame. I think there is a good chance the conference stands pat until Notre Dame decides to make a move.
 
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I took a look at the remaining teams in the largest remaining markets (or with the largest national following) and came up with a list of 14 possible targets that could make sense and would fit in with the BIG (AAU, etc.).

Notre Dame
Texas
Oklahoma
Florida
Florida State
Stanford
California
Oregon
Washington
North Carolina
Colorado
Arizona
Virginia
Georgia Tech


The problem is I think only about the top 5 would actually increase the BIG's net payout for each of the 16 schools already in the conference, while adding any of the others could result in a reduced payout to each school and may prohibit their inclusion.

Of the top 5 that would actually enrich the conference, 3 are already in the SEC so I am not sure they can be poached. As much as I think we should add 2 more west coast teams, I just don't think it makes financial sense if they mean taking a pay cut, unless its a package deal with Notre Dame. I think there is a good chance the conference stands pat until Notre Dame decides to make a move.
Mostly lost in all of the fun discussions about who the B1G might add next is the idea that they don’t HAVE to add anyone.

The big worry was that after they incorporated OU and Texas, the SEC would take a run at the PAC12, because the ultimate ESPN goal was to have the SEC be the one national superconference.
An SEC that added USC and one or more other western teams would have been powerful enough to then put pressure on the top B1G teams and ND to jump or be left out.

The B1G has short circuited that plan with their latest move, and now you hear the future described more as similar to the NFL where you have two conferences thst matter.

The B1G doesn’t have to add anyone else now and it might be in their best interests to wait and see if the focus turns to the ACC blowing up instead of taking more western teams now that aren’t the best candidates.
 
"The B1G doesn’t have to add anyone else now and it might be in their best interests to wait and see if the focus turns to the ACC blowing up instead of taking more western teams now that aren’t the best candidates."
sounds reasonable.
Some ACC members ( NC &UV ??) , if it blows up, might feel the B1G is a better fit than the SEC.
 
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Can someone please pin somewhere that Stanford is approx 360 miles away from USC?
It's not exactly an easy trip for visiting schools.

Rutgers to WVU is only 300 miles.
 
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