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Basketball WBB head coach C.Vivian Stringer will sit out the 2021-22 season.

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I think that was the clarification from the athletic department. It might not be their practice to discuss salary issues with the general public.
 
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t she just sign another contract extension last spring? Like right before she stopped coaching?
 
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didn't she coach last year when there was no vaccine and virus was worse.
So something had to change with her health to not coach this year when there is a vaccine and the virus is more under control.
There has to be more to this.
hope she and family are ok
 
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Why would the NCAA not allow contact?
From the Ledger article - “ Because NCAA rules require teams to only have four people designated as coaches, Stringer is not permitted to have contact with her team during the leave of absence.” So apparently she is not currently designated as a coach.
 
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From the Ledger article - “ Because NCAA rules require teams to only have four people designated as coaches, Stringer is not permitted to have contact with her team during the leave of absence.” So apparently she is not currently designated as a coach.
Yep was aware of the rule but amazed that this is only being announced now. This is crazee!!!!!
 
Bizarre situation, you have to figure this was known inside the department, or at least the possibility, for some time now. This puts the program in limbo for sure for recruiting next year until a plan is announced.
 
It seems to be as I feared, that it is a really serious situation. Just from what we know of CVS, I'm sure she would love nothing more than to be on the sideline and probably fought to this, the last moment to try to get back with the team.

I just wish that others would show this woman who has been, as I said before, class personified for her entire career, the respect that she deserves. To call her "selfish" , and "enough already", etc, is insensitive and inappropriate. Without knowing the specifics, it is rude and uncaring to make such statements.

Times like these I'm really grateful for the real fans on here that post varying viewpoints, but always do so with class. You know who you are.

Those who, at this time, are more concerned with her salary, .......exercise more patience and give this icon of a woman some credit. You act like she is some kind of person out to get over on the university. Those who are insinuating that notion are totally classless.
 
Sargeant article, nothing new. Some pertinent info.
my guess would be that CViv would want Eatman to have credit if highly successful. If not so successful, she may be willing to absorb a bad record for the sake of Tim's future coaching aspirations.

With the team they have, I see him having a well above .500 season.
 
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It seems to be as I feared, that it is a really serious situation. Just from what we know of CVS, I'm sure she would love nothing more than to be on the sideline and probably fought to this, the last moment to try to get back with the team.

I just wish that others would show this woman who has been, as I said before, class personified for her entire career, the respect that she deserves. To call her "selfish" , and "enough already", etc, is insensitive and inappropriate. Without knowing the specifics, it is rude and uncaring to make such statements.

Times like these I'm really grateful for the real fans on here that post varying viewpoints, but always do so with class. You know who you are.

Those who, at this time, are more concerned with her salary, .......exercise more patience and give this icon of a woman some credit. You act like she is some kind of person out to get over on the university. Those who are insinuating that notion are totally classless.

Wish our “fans” would show her the same loyalty she showed us.
 
I’ve followed RU WBB since my RU neighbor Sue Wicks was kicking butt all up and down the east coast…can’t think of many years when I’ve felt this dis-interested. The current vector is not good and there’s not enough rosy lipstick that will make this pig look any better.
 
Another concern will be recruiting. CVS was somewhat of a magnet. Young women wanted to come play for a coach with a great history. I think Tim has done a good job filling in for her, but he doesn’t have name recognition with recruits.
 
Yes, recruiting has been slow since the our soph group signed. We do have one other young lady(Antonia Bates) coming in next year who should be a solid addition.

This season is an opportunity for Tim to get the name recognition. If they play well and win some big games, and get wins in the NCAA tourney, they should get some recruits. Don't forget the top-notch facilities and the recruiting energy of Coach Domond.
 
didn't she coach last year when there was no vaccine and virus was worse.
So something had to change with her health to not coach this year when there is a vaccine and the virus is more under control.
There has to be more to this.
hope she and family are ok
Couldn't it also be that it's her daughter's health that has changed, not hers? It seems to me that it's jumping to conclusions to say it's CVS's health when none of us really know.
 
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If she’s using the FMLA to take care of a family member, you must first use all PTO. Then it’s unpaid leave but you retain your position with no penalty (employer cannot terminate you) as long as certain criteria are met.

Note that her contract has the following clause per Sargent: “she is allowed to transition into an administrative role with the same salary at any point of the five year period she is signed for.”

Effectively she could work from home in such a role, so maybe that’s what will eventually happen at the end of her leave. She gets paid and Hobbs can make a decision on the current staff independently at the end of this season. In the meantime, I wish good health to CVS and her family.

It is also a very awkward situation for the team and may have contributed to some of the unexpected departures at the end of last season. Wishing the current team and staff the best of luck this season.
 
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I have heard from multiple sources it is her health issues and if true she will not be back. Further than that I hope all is well with her
 
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Ledger article. But I may have misinterpreted it. She’ll be paid her full salary from accrued sick days. Not sure if that’s leave or not.

Thanks! M My guess is that it is not true -- that she's really being put on paid administrative leave as a faculty member would -- but that the university is saying it's accrued sick days to dispel criticism. But that's just my guess.
 
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Thanks! M My guess is that it is not true -- that she's really being put on paid administrative leave as a faculty member would -- but that the university is saying it's accrued sick days to dispel criticism. But that's just my guess.

You would have way more insight than me. Thanks!
 
She needs to retire enough already, I can guarantee she is still drawing her salary
It's about time for clarification from the athletic department
If she has the days saved up, nothing amiss with her doing so and bet you would do the same.
Not an apple orange situation, but a take what you saved or throw it away issue.
 
If she has the days saved up, nothing amiss with her doing so and bet you would do the same.
Not an apple orange situation, but a take what you saved or throw it away issue.
Honestly, if an employer had paid and treated me extremely well over an extended period of time, no I wouldn't be looking to extract everything that I was technically able to pursue. Rather, I would recognize that I am no longer able to deliver the requirements of the position and I would be focused on the best interests of the program and the players who I recruited. Given that she gets paid the same whether she coaches or moves onto an administrative position, I would choose the latter and make a graceful exit, while still being associated with the program and players. Sometimes it is not always about the individual and extracting every last element they are entitled to, but rather about understanding the situation and doing what is right. IMO, she is failing miserably in the latter.
 
Honestly, if an employer had paid and treated me extremely well over an extended period of time, no I wouldn't be looking to extract everything that I was technically able to pursue. Rather, I would recognize that I am no longer able to deliver the requirements of the position and I would be focused on the best interests of the program and the players who I recruited. Given that she gets paid the same whether she coaches or moves onto an administrative position, I would choose the latter and make a graceful exit, while still being associated with the program and players. Sometimes it is not always about the individual and extracting every last element they are entitled to, but rather about understanding the situation and doing what is right. IMO, she is failing miserably in the latter.
I.m sure that was discussed and Hobbs and her decided that doing this was best for the program, because she wants to coach and if that became a problem , then move into office position.
Right now the office position might not fit best in either Rutgers or Stringer's future plans.
The result would be the same,CVS sits and Eatman runs the program

To me it just sounds like bringing in a new HC is what's wanted instead of giving Tim a shot and RU fans showing him less loyalty than he's given the RU WBB program

Would you move , like you claim, if by moving someone you wanted to take your place might not be given a chance and by taking an administrative position you would lose your chance to return as HC if the situation changed..

It's not the same as you think your situation would be, opportunity for who you want to see be given a chance and opportunity to return if health situation improves might not be there.
Also she's not exacting a pound of flesh, she's doing what needs to be done and maybe helping someone's future while preserving hers

Lke I said: "Not an apple orange situation", but a complexed one that involes more than one person's HC future in the sport, if he suceeds this year running the RUWBB program and one coach's chance to return next year to running it if she can.
 
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I.m sure that was discussed and Hobbs and her decided that doing this was best for the program, because she wants to coach and if that became a problem , then move into office position.
Right now the office position might not fit best in either Rutgers or Stringer's future plans.
The result would be the same,CVS sits and Eatman runs the program

To me it just sounds like bringing in a new HC is what's wanted instead of giving Tim a shot and RU fans showing him less loyalty than he's given the RU WBB program
You have no clue what was discussed, and I can't see how Hobbs, the players, or recruits would want this. How exactly is this 'best for the program' as you claim?
 
You have no clue what was discussed, and I can't see how Hobbs, the players, or recruits would want this. How exactly is this 'best for the program' as you claim?

Fair point, but I have read nothing but supportive comments from her players and they clearly have her back (and almost certainly know more about the situation than us).
 
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You have no clue what was discussed, and I can't see how Hobbs, the players, or recruits would want this. How exactly is this 'best for the program' as you claim?
You're right that I don't know what was discussed,but I feel you might not be understanding what all could be involved.
As for as Hobbs, the players and recruits not wanting it, maybe they did want Stringer to have a chance to return next year and Tim be given his shot this season and based on it be hired as the RU HC if Stringer doesn't return or be hired by another program as their HC.

What's best is Tim being given his chance instead of hiring someone from the outside and probably wanting Stringer's chanves to return as HC next year.
The players came because of her, are used to Tim now, so it's a win win for the program, but a heartache for those who wanted CVS out competently

I can't say what everyone feels, but neither can you and this way , in my opinion, the players benefit from having Tim, someone they are used to, run the team and knowing the coach that recruited them might be back .
It's that simple and also shows caring for a HC that has been the face of the program for years.

You might not see it, but Stringer being replaced by someone from the outside that would mean change of direction and the person taking over is being given a chance to continue what CVS was trying to do and also showcasing himself for the job if Vivian takes the office job instead of returning as HC or just retires.
If she returns after this season, Tim might just get a HC position at another program if RU does well this year.
The issue probably is more complexes than you realize and what you feel some affected by think about what's happening might just be the opposite of what you think they do..
The players might be happy with the possibility their recruiter might return next year and like having Tim run the show this year

That I can't say what exactly is behind the Tim is coaching now, or why CVS didn't take an office role, but it's something you might not have considered that is part of why CVS and Hobbs are doing it this way .
It seems you are focused more on wanting her gone and not looking at all the possiblities of why it's being done this way
 
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You're right that I don't know what was discussed,but I feel you might not be understanding what all could be involved.
As for as Hobbs, the players and recruits not wanting it, maybe they did want Stringer to have a chance to return next year and Tim be given his shot this season and based on it be hired as the RU HC if Stringer doesn't return or be hired by another program as their HC.

What's best is Tim being given his chance instead of hiring someone from the outside and probably wanting Stringer's chanves to return as HC next year.
The players came because of her, are used to Tim now, so it's a win win for the program, but a heartache for those who wanted CVS out competently

I can't say what everyone feels, but neither can you and this way , in my opinion, the players benefit from having Tim, someone they are used to, run the team and knowing the coach that recruited them might be back .
It's that simple and also shows caring for a HC that has been the face of the program for years.

You might not see it, but Stringer being replaced by someone from the outside that would mean change of direction and the person taking over is being given a chance to continue what CVS was trying to do and also showcasing himself for the job if Vivian takes the office job instead of returning as HC or just retires.
If she returns after this season, Tim might just get a HC position at another program if RU does well this year.
The issue probably is more complexes than you realize and what you feel some affected by think about what's happening might just be the opposite of what you think they do..
The players might be happy with the possibility their recruiter might return next year and like having Tim run the show this year

That I can't say what exactly is behind the Tim is coaching now, or why CVS didn't take an office role, but it's something you might not have considered that is part of why CVS and Hobbs are doing it this way .
It seems you are focused more on wanting her gone and not looking at all the possiblities of why it's being done this way
Next time, consider a summary, as I have no idea what you are trying to say here. That said, Hobbs is likely doing it this way because he has no choice. Why CVS is doing it this way is another story.
 
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