We don't need a QB this class

[seels2662]

This is something I've been saying for a couple of months on this board. On purely a football perspective, we have 4 scholarship QBs this year, and if we don't get one this round, we will have 4 scholarship QBs next year. I am really excited for Dare, but if he doesn't work out the one thing I think Flood is great at in terms of recruiting is getting a good transfer. So we wait a year, a few good QBs always come around next year and we will fill the exact hole that DH or JG would have filled.

If you take that mindset, we can really use an extra person in a number of positions. For example the OL is desperate for bodies to come in.

 

[rutgersdave]

Let's not talk about recruiting. It hasn't been going the way we want for most of the recruits. WE can just hope that we can get mostly 3 star recruits.

 

[RUSK97]

We don't absolutely need a QB for this class, but realistically, you need a marquis QB recruit every class because the majority of them don't pan out.

 

[RUwoz]

DH and JG were never important just for the QB position, it was who they could bring with them... I saw somewhere on Twitter that when 2016 TEs and WRs were asked who they'd want to play with most of any player in the country, DH was the overwhelming favorite

 

[S.B. Crumb]

We'll get JG or Haskins...
Haskins is better anyway...
We didn't really need a QB this class...

 

[seels2662]

We'll get JG or Haskins...
Haskins is better anyway...
We didn't really need a QB this class...

I have made a half a dozen posts about this the last few months,ask anyone. This is not me backpedaling.

 

[ScarletKnightRider]

I think the OP meant that if our QB wasnt JG or DH, then we don't necessarily need one at all. The reason why JG and DH were crucial was because they had an ability to attract top local talent. Its not that we were desperate at the QB position.

 

[RUtix4me]

DH and JG were never important just for the QB position, it was who they could bring with them... I saw somewhere on Twitter that when 2016 TEs and WRs were asked who they'd want to play with most of any player in the country, DH was the overwhelming favorite

Thats great, but all the WR and TE can not commit to MD, only a few.

 

[hiwater]

You're right seels, but from the recruiting perspective, it may have been able to land a few higher calliber recruits with either Garananto or Haskins commited. Most recruits don't look at who is already there that can throw them ball. They are only looking at their peer group or current recruits.

 

[RUbacker]

This is something I've been saying for a couple of months on this board. On purely a football perspective, we have 4 scholarship QBs this year, and if we don't get one this round, we will have 4 scholarship QBs next year. I am really excited for Dare, but if he doesn't work out the one thing I think Flood is great at in terms of recruiting is getting a good transfer. So we wait a year, a few good QBs always come around next year and we will fill the exact hole that DH or JG would have filled.

If you take that mindset, we can really use an extra person in a number of positions. For example the OL is desperate for bodies to come in.

What? You want to rethink that?

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Seels

Love you man...but you are 100000000000000 wrong

You need one Qb in every class. Qbs transfer fast if they don't look like they will play early

Always want one in every class

 

[PSU_Nut]

This is something I've been saying for a couple of months on this board. On purely a football perspective, we have 4 scholarship QBs this year, and if we don't get one this round, we will have 4 scholarship QBs next year. I am really excited for Dare, but if he doesn't work out the one thing I think Flood is great at in terms of recruiting is getting a good transfer. So we wait a year, a few good QBs always come around next year and we will fill the exact hole that DH or JG would have filled.

If you take that mindset, we can really use an extra person in a number of positions. For example the OL is desperate for bodies to come in.

You need a QB every year. The loser of Rettig or Laviano very likely will transfer. So you would only have 3 for 2016.
QB may transfer all the time. Most of them are looking for a place without a returning starter because they want to play now. They are not going to look at a program with an established starter. Beside unless they are a graduate transfer they wouldn't be able to play in 2016 anyways still leaving you with only 3. Most transfer don't pan out anyways. You can't build a program hoping for transfer.

 

[Ru2bnj]

I agree completely. A lot of the folks on these boards tend to view hyped 4 star players as messiah's of some sort ..which is absurd. We have two 4 star QBs (according to ESPN) vying for the position this year. Many wanted this kid...to attract other touted recruits...well in the end I don't think it works that way. RU really needs a set of WRs in this class and hopefully before Feb 2016 they land 3 or 4. The QB will be ok over the next 3 years. . The key is to get one of the touted WRs to commit.

 

[bac2therac]

nice try Seels but we needed one of these guys for reasons that have been outlined above.

 

[FourSpot]

We'll get JG or Haskins...
Haskins is better anyway...
We didn't really need a QB this class...

Also:
It's a long time until February...
Stars don't mean anything... unless our commit has those stars... Russo has 8 stars according to ESPN...
We only want the players who want to be here (even though they have no other offers)...

Seriously, how is Russo not committed yet? His other big offers are Temple and Raritan Valley CC.

 

[rutgersguy1]

You need a QB every year. The loser of Rettig or Laviano very likely will transfer. .

Don't really get too involved in these recruiting threads but would Rettig transfer after he already transferred to us? Wouldn't he have to sit another year then? How often do QBs transfer twice? Savage did but that was because Rich Rod had a totally different system than the previous coach. Laviano I could see transfer if he was on the short end of the stick though.

 

[PaKnight]

Seels

Love you man...but you are 100000000000000 wrong

You need one Qb in every class. Qbs transfer fast if they don't look like they will play early

Always want one in every class

I still remember 2007 when we had to play Teel with s bad thumb because the staff had no faith in Jabu. You never know who is going to work out, brining in a QB every year increases the odds that there will be multiple options every year.

 

[rutgersdave]

We don't need any scholarship football players since we always get walk-on that do well.

 

[MADHAT1]

Don't really get too involved in these recruiting threads but would Rettig transfer after he already transferred to us? Wouldn't he have to sit another year then? How often do QBs transfer twice? Savage did but that was because Rich Rod had a totally different system than the previous coach. Laviano I could see transfer if he was on the short end of the stick though.

Don't know if Hayden ( if doesn't win starting position) could drop down without sitting and losing year of eligibility, but if Chris wins job outright,
PSU_Nut might be right about the loser transferring.
I tend to agree with him about needing to get a QB every year and add need to get a top HS QB every other year to become and stay a top program.

 

[RU205]

Need a QB every year. Ideally that QB should redshirt to learn the system. Between transfers, injuries and guys that don't pan out there is little wiggle room with the QB position.

 

[PSU_Nut]

Don't really get too involved in these recruiting threads but would Rettig transfer after he already transferred to us? Wouldn't he have to sit another year then? How often do QBs transfer twice? Savage did but that was because Rich Rod had a totally different system than the previous coach. Laviano I could see transfer if he was on the short end of the stick though.

Do you think Rettig transferred to sit on the bench? He would have to sit or more than likely he would either transfer down a level and be eligible immediately.

 

[seels2662]

Don't misunderstand what I am saying, I never said we shouldn't go after DH or JG. That was the #1 priority. But we don't need a QB just to have a QB. A transfer next year is just as good.

By the way I am speaking solely in terms of a football perspective. I have other opinions on kids that can recruit but that can be left for another thread.

 

[Knight_Light]

This is something I've been saying for a couple of months on this board. On purely a football perspective, we have 4 scholarship QBs this year, and if we don't get one this round, we will have 4 scholarship QBs next year.

Percentage wise, there are more QB position changes (i.e. from transfers, injuries, moving to other positions on the field, recruiting misses, etc...) than any other on a team.

Teams almost always have to take at least 1 QB in each class as no one can predict the future and/or who will be there in the future.

Signing Day is more than 8 months away....odds are, there will be at least 1 QB in this class.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Do you think Rettig transferred to sit on the bench? He would have to sit or more than likely he would either transfer down a level and be eligible immediately.

Nope I'd say he transferred for a chance to compete for the starting job in a system suited more for him. Didn't Cam Cameron tweak the LSU offense to utilize more mobile qbs? Savage transferred twice and that was a offensive system thing too and he even admitted it was a mistake to leave here in the first place.

If Rettig hadn't transferred already or we suddenly changed offensive systems then I might say okay the probability is higher he could leave if he didn't get the starting job. Since he has once already, how much upheaval for a 2nd time does a guy want in his life, even if he did move down a level and was eligible immediately. It's why I asked how often do qbs actually transfer twice? I don't follow this stuff so I don't know. Guys always get hurt and it's likely at worst he'd be the #2 option not buried down the chart so a chance for him to show his stuff would always be there. I can't get in a guy's head any more than anyone else here but I'd just find it more of an outlier to see a guy transfer a 2nd time in his career if he's the #2 option on the team.

 

[JQRU91]

I understand what the OP is saying but you always have to take a quarterback. Because you just don't know what might happen and it's the one position that you can't be without a legitimate starter. What would have happened if Ohio State didn't have Cardale Jones last year? What would have happened if Wisconsin did have a decent quarterback last year? Projecting quarterback recruits can be a crapshoot and there are always injuries and transfers. If you're short players at other positions, you can always move people around, but you can't effectively just slot someone in as quarterback. Basically if you're caught short at QB, your season's shot. Can't afford to have that happen.

Now that I think of it, I wonder who Texas had as junior and sophomore quarterbacks when they played Alabama for the national championship. Colt McCoy, who was a senior, got hurt and they had to throw in Garrett Gilbert who was a true freshman. They're Texas with all that recruiting power in a state known for quarterback talent, and they had to play a freshman with no experience with the title on the line? Ouch.