WE HAVE 65,000 STUDENTS !!!

[HeavenUniv.]

Attention anti-Rutgers New Jersey media--Stop painting the university as some type of Mad Max movie! Can they EVER talk about all the good things at the university coming from the other 64,995 students,thousands of professors and hundreds of thousands of alumni. When was the last time the papers of New Jersey had an article about a Rutgers concert,play,art exhibit,let alone other Rutgers sports such as lacrosse,baseball,softball,soccer.etc. I have seen first hand what newspapers do for their state universities in other parts of the country. After DECADES of seeing Rutgers ignored or only talked about in a bad light, I hope the last few years have shown the university and all of us that it is way past time to play hardball with the local media. We need to create our own statewide TV station NOW ! Make it VERY clear to the fans and "journalists" that we are making scarletknights.com THE place for Rutgers fans to go for Rutgers sports news. Tell them that it is a privilege for them to get access to our coaches and players,NOT a right.

 

[SHUSource]

Populations don't normally seek that kind of one-sided news coverage, but it's been done before:

 

[HeavenUniv.]

SHU,
That would still be more objective and informative than the Star-Liar and nj.com LOL

 

[RUBOB72]

Attention anti-Rutgers New Jersey media--Stop painting the university as some type of Mad Max movie! Can they EVER talk about all the good things at the university coming from the other 64,995 students,thousands of professors and hundreds of thousands of alumni. When was the last time the papers of New Jersey had an article about a Rutgers concert,play,art exhibit,let alone other Rutgers sports such as lacrosse,baseball,softball,soccer.etc. I have seen first hand what newspapers do for their state universities in other parts of the country. After DECADES of seeing Rutgers ignored or only talked about in a bad light, I hope the last few years have shown the university and all of us that it is way past time to play hardball with the local media. We need to create our own statewide TV station NOW ! Make it VERY clear to the fans and "journalists" that we are making scarletknights.com THE place for Rutgers fans to go for Rutgers sports news. Tell them that it is a privilege for them to get access to our coaches and players,NOT a right.

Let's be honest...negative news sells better and quicker in this day and age...positive press is almost a bygone thing...it ain't sexy as they say.

 

[HeavenUniv.]

RUBOB,
What I am saying is it is time for Rutgers to take control. Stop being the whipping boy for New Jersey newspapers. Tell them WE decide what writers and papers will be invited to practice,press conferences,the press box,etc. Pro sports teams have been doing this forever. I would have no problem at all if Julie Hermann sent out an email saying no more press at our practices for the rest of the year and then opens it up only to those that Rutgers wants to allow access.

 

[SHUSource]

SHU,
That would still be more objective and informative than the Star-Liar and nj.com LOL

I'll maintain my belief that NJ.com and the Star-Ledger (what's left of it) is not anti-Rutgers, and that a lot of die-hard Rutgers sports fans selectively filter the good from the bad news. I don't live in a place where the print edition of the S-L is easy to find, and I don't even look at NJ.com nearly as often as I used to - it's not "local" news to me anymore - but there has always been a lot of positive Rutgers news on its pages, both print and cyber.

An objective eye can easily see that Rutgers and Rutgers Athletics has also spoon-fed the media a ton of fodder for negative news, too, and it is their obligation to report it. Yes, it's true that most people find negative news more interesting than good news, but that's why the 6 o'clock news leads with three murders in a row, then has sports and weather, before running seven seconds of tape from some local fundraiser. That's the way it is.

There are actually people here who thing it is the role of a newspaper to "promote" a university through its coverage, which is absurd and would be journalistically irresponsible. A paper can partner with a university to promote events, as a sponsor, but otherwise, it's the responsibility of a university to earn positive press with good, compelling, relevant news. Rutgers has always been pretty good at this, though it can be influenced by skilled communications people who have cultivated good relationships with reporters and editors.

But none of that really insures you from having bad things written when bad things happen. Yes, NJ.com quickly populated its pages with lots of stupid click-bait after this latest thing broke (like polls of "Should Flood be Fired?" and crap like that), but they handled the story responsibility. yeah, it sucks and it's embarrassing to read those things about your teams (and I know all about it, believe me!), but the news is the news. And I can't imagine why anyone would want to read one-sided, promotional pabulum (other than good player profiles and other features) that don't tell the whole story.

 

[JPhoboken]

Vanderbilt is one of the most respected colleges in the country. Is their entire student body responsible for the rape and sexual assault scandal they have going on?

 

[beaced]

I'll maintain my belief that NJ.com and the Star-Ledger (what's left of it) is not anti-Rutgers, and that a lot of die-hard Rutgers sports fans selectively filter the good from the bad news. I don't live in a place where the print edition of the S-L is easy to find, and I don't even look at NJ.com nearly as often as I used to - it's not "local" news to me anymore - but there has always been a lot of positive Rutgers news on its pages, both print and cyber.

An objective eye can easily see that Rutgers and Rutgers Athletics has also spoon-fed the media a ton of fodder for negative news, too, and it is their obligation to report it. Yes, it's true that most people find negative news more interesting than good news, but that's why the 6 o'clock news leads with three murders in a row, then has sports and weather, before running seven seconds of tape from some local fundraiser. That's the way it is.

There are actually people here who thing it is the role of a newspaper to "promote" a university through its coverage, which is absurd and would be journalistically irresponsible. A paper can partner with a university to promote events, as a sponsor, but otherwise, it's the responsibility of a university to earn positive press with good, compelling, relevant news. Rutgers has always been pretty good at this, though it can be influenced by skilled communications people who have cultivated good relationships with reporters and editors.

But none of that really insures you from having bad things written when bad things happen. Yes, NJ.com quickly populated its pages with lots of stupid click-bait after this latest thing broke (like polls of "Should Flood be Fired?" and crap like that), but they handled the story responsibility. yeah, it sucks and it's embarrassing to read those things about your teams (and I know all about it, believe me!), but the news is the news. And I can't imagine why anyone would want to read one-sided, promotional pabulum (other than good player profiles and other features) that don't tell the whole story.

Something tells me that if you printed the stuff that you did here,in an SEC Forum,they wqould be warming up the tar and plucking the chickens. NO WHERE ELSE but in NJ ,led by the sl,does crap like this get spewed in a local paper.

 

[Rokodesh]

Populations don't normally seek that kind of one-sided news coverage, but it's been done before:

I can read it lol

 

[e5fdny]

The # is too high if we are just counting NB which we should.

And as RUBOB72 said...

Let's be honest...negative news sells better and quicker in this day and age...positive press is almost a bygone thing...it ain't sexy as they say.

That goes for on here too...Good, positive news thread die very quick. The bad ones seem to live on forever.

 

[SHUSource]

Something tells me that if you printed the stuff that you did here,in an SEC Forum,they wqould be warming up the tar and plucking the chickens. NO WHERE ELSE but in NJ ,led by the sl,does crap like this get spewed in a local paper.

You might be right about that - you probably are! - but that doesn't make it good or responsible journalism. Those scribes are not respected elsewhere in the country. That's why the northeast is the media nerve center of the nation.

 

[rutgersnyc]

No. If Rutgers had any decent PR outreach and muscle some of this stuff could be avoided. Just another scandal that is blowing up on a national level and we sit back and watch. Yea, NJ media has had it out for Rutgers for years and Rutgers has done absolutely nothing to fix the mess. The entire Public Affairs dept should be fired. No comment or this is a police matter is not a response.

 

[CERU00]

Populations don't normally seek that kind of one-sided news coverage, but it's been done before:

Translation?

 

[RUInsanity]

You might be right about that - you probably are! - but that doesn't make it good or responsible journalism. Those scribes are not respected elsewhere in the country. That's why the northeast is the media nerve center of the nation.

So are you making the claim that the SL/NJ dot com is a bastion of responsible/good journalism. I would say that "those scribes not being respected" also applies in this case. If you haven't picked up the paper or read the website - perhaps you should rate the quality (or lack thereof) of content yourself.

 

[SHUSource]

No. If Rutgers had any decent PR outreach and muscle some of this stuff could be avoided. Just another scandal that is blowing up on a national level and we sit back and watch. Yea, NJ media has had it out for Rutgers for years and Rutgers has done absolutely nothing to fix the mess. The entire Public Affairs dept should be fired. No comment or this is a police matter is not a response.

Some of it could be avoided, but not all of it, and even then, it's harder to manage it than it used to be because advertising dollars used to speak loudly. year ago, when I worked at Kean, you wouldn't believe how much we kept out of the S-L because we spent upwards of a million bucks a year (or whatever it was) on advertising with them. It was really effective! But we also had a good relationship and credibility with their editorial folks, which bought us some time to work on responses.

Again, they don't have it out for Rutgers, but you hit on something many in the business DO say about Rutgers, that their media and PR folks aren't the best. Lots of factors around that, but it's a tough job no matter what. But to think anyone could just make this all go away is not realistic.

 

[e5fdny]

No. If Rutgers had any decent PR outreach and muscle some of this stuff could be avoided. Just another scandal that is blowing up on a national level and we sit back and watch. Yea, NJ media has had it out for Rutgers for years and Rutgers has done absolutely nothing to fix the mess. The entire Public Affairs dept should be fired. No comment or this is a police matter is not a response.

But it happened so now lets see how they take care of it.

As I said in another thread the two things NEED to be separated.

 

[SHUSource]

So are you making the claim that the SL/NJ dot com is a bastion of responsible/good journalism. I would say that "those scribes not being respected" also applies in this case. If you haven't picked up the paper or read the website - perhaps you should rate the quality (or lack thereof) of content yourself.

It's definitely gone downhill, and I would never hold the paper or the website up as the beacon of northeastern journalism, but you also can trust they are not in the tank for the large entities they cover - nor should they be. But the paper has been carved down to nothing (due to money) and the website is littered with click-bait (which drives revenue, unfortunately) and pop-up ads, and you really have to dig to find the news.

 

[RUsSKii]

Translation?

It's a famous Russian newspaper, Truth.
Translated loosely: "In Moscow yesterday 25 members of the Soviet Union's communist party were sworn in" with the headline "Forward, to a new victory for Communism!"