When was the last time RU was rated this low #89 in Sagarin?
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F Sagarin. Until week 8 or 9 it doesn't ave enough information to "rate" anything. it is all based on a network of results.. X beat Y by 10 and Y beat Z by 10 therefore X would beat Z by 20... so X would be 20 points higher than Z in Sagarins. It is that sort of crap and until they have a whole lot of data it is highly suspect and completely meaningless.
And one could argue that it only has meaning when comparing school from the same conference because there will never be enough OOC games among P5 teams to build a meaningful database for comparison.
And one could argue that it only has meaning when comparing school from the same conference because there will never be enough OOC games among P5 teams to build a meaningful database for comparison.
Hard to believe that we are 6 spots behind Maryland, but at least we are one spot ahead of that team from Arkansas. Arkansas St. that is.
This ranking harkens back to the Shea era and very early in Greg Schiano days at RU.
GoodOl is right...let the season play out before these Rankings have meaning.
This ranking harkens back to the Shea era and very early in Greg Schiano days at RU.
GoodOl is right...let the season play out before these Rankings have meaning.
" When was the last time RU was rated #89 in sagarin??"
I dont know.. but when was the last time the best RU offensive player as well as the best RU Defensive player were lost at the start of the season? Not to mention the loss of a good percentage of the top defensive backfield players.
Possibly a slight correlation there?
Maybe also has a little something to do with the replacement of 3 OL starters and a 4 yr starting QB. with young inexperienced players. Just maybe
I dont know.. but when was the last time the best RU offensive player as well as the best RU Defensive player were lost at the start of the season? Not to mention the loss of a good percentage of the top defensive backfield players.
Possibly a slight correlation there?
Maybe also has a little something to do with the replacement of 3 OL starters and a 4 yr starting QB. with young inexperienced players. Just maybe
Should RU get a huge Sagarin bump in the next few weeks simply by playing Michigan State and Ohio State in two of the next three weeks?
One reason I've never liked Sagarin is because you can usually find a few SEC teams that have done nothing but lost to top 10 teams ranked higher than teams that have actually won their games.
One reason I've never liked Sagarin is because you can usually find a few SEC teams that have done nothing but lost to top 10 teams ranked higher than teams that have actually won their games.
To answer the OP, RU finished the season rated lower twice in the past 5 years
2013...#100
2010...#90
2013...#100
2010...#90
Yeah, was wondering if OP forgot that we've had a couple sub .500 seasons in the not so distant past.
Yeah. It's got to the point yet again where you figure everything is agenda driven. If so, you should at least know the answer before you post.
Apologies to the OP if it wasn't the case.
I'm not saying we are bad... but with all these losses in personnel coming in to the year I definitely did not expect us to be good this year...the the looses of Caroo & Hamilton aqs well? in the cycle of competitiveness, this was certainly going to be a down year. I was expecting 1 or two B1G wins max.. and definitely thought WSU/ Penn St and Mich were going to be tougher games than against those same teams last year. So, with these losses and the fact that this year we are rebuilding.. I think we are in the 50 - 80 range at best and expected that coming in. Need time for the "babies" to mature as Nories would say
Thats going to be the case for almost any computer rating, espeically. if like the old sagarin (by mandate of the BCS - now that there is no BCS this is no longer the case) he doesnt account for score margin.
But reality is plenty of teams actually win their games against crap opponents and arent as good as teams that lose to very good ones. If you are trying to predict who is going to win next week's game, record isnt as infromative as the combination of SoS and scoring margin.
Who was the coach in 2013 and in charge of the offense in 2010....
Is there a pattern here of some kind?
LOL "were lost"
When was the last time we had 7 arrests, an academic disqualification, and a suspended coach for academic fraud?
And lol our best qb rots on the bench....
Yes, there is...
2010 Legrand injury that sent team in tailspin.
2013 All the off field nonsense, defections, and other stuff swirling around the program and Rutgers.
I know that's not the answer you wanted but it's not my job to help you with your agenda.
- listen, we might not by 89th, but we're not much higher and it pains me to say so. We're simply a bad team right now. Bottom line.
- let's not blame this on not having DH or LC. This was going to be a rough season - IMHO - prior to any off field nonsense or injuries. Toooooo many ???'s all over the field and toooo much lost on O in terms of starting experience. Way too much.
- let's not blame this on not having DH or LC. This was going to be a rough season - IMHO - prior to any off field nonsense or injuries. Toooooo many ???'s all over the field and toooo much lost on O in terms of starting experience. Way too much.
We lost to Tulane before that.
And who is responsible for the off the field problems and recruit defections?
Come on.
You are what your record says you are and our record says we've beaten norfolk state and the worst team, by a wide margin, among the p5 conferences. No way around it.
Hey don't put down our victories. I can honestly say that I believe Norfolk State could be very competitive against the likes of Gettysburg and Kutztown State, and as far as Kansas goes, I would argue that if they were in the Patriot League this year they would be right there battling with Bucknell for second place behind Fordham.
In their opener, I could very easily argue that Michigan was horrendous and much worse than where we are now. But, a month later, they're ranked in the top 25.
Teams can change. Evidently, Harbaugh knew how to turn his team around and did. Maybe, this team can and will change. But, if they don't, I would put that squarely on the shoulders of the coaching staff. I am really not ready to write this team's epitaph after the first four games of the season.
Teams can change. Evidently, Harbaugh knew how to turn his team around and did. Maybe, this team can and will change. But, if they don't, I would put that squarely on the shoulders of the coaching staff. I am really not ready to write this team's epitaph after the first four games of the season.
"Horrendous"?? Really? Losing 24-17 to a team that is now 4-0 and ranked 5th the nation? I'd love to hear this argument Beantown!
While some folks have turned negative recently, there are others, quite a few actually, that have been negative year in and year out. I recognize the names and truly feel sorry for many. It's sad.
Michigan was scoreless until the last minute of the third quarter, in that game. Ruddock was awful in that game and their defense was all out of sorts. Heck, Utah didn't look impressive either but was definitely consistent.
But, my point still stands that, even with big flaws to start the season, Harbaugh has done a very good job getting the most out of his QB as well as the rest of that team. What we would all like to see, and what we all hope is still possible, is that this coaching staff can get as much out of this team as possible.
