Will we ever find a Douby? A Case of rosy retrospection?

[R1766U]

It seems like deja-vu. Again and again, I find myself saying "If only we had a shooter". Am I imagining how consistent Douby was? Maybe in my old age, I am making Douby be better than he was. I just remember him always coming through in the clutch and wanting him to have the ball in his hands when a shot needed to drop. Why can't we find someone who can consistently drop long-range jumpers/ threes? Seems to me that is the missing piece on this team.

SUMMARY

Career

G
95

PTS
17.8

TRB
2.9

AST
2.7

FG%
43.2

FG3%
38.9

FT%
82.0

eFG%
52.6

WS
13.3

 

[Doteman]

No, you remember him correctly, it's just very hard to find a guy like him, incredible/clutch shooter.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

This is a Top 25 team because of defense, chemistry and toughness. Quincy was an incredible offensive talent.

 

[RUJMM78]

This is a Top 25 team because of defense, chemistry and toughness. Quincy was an incredible offensive talent.

Rutgers has been more successful than past seasons because of a 13-0 home record.If Rutgers had a Douby or Powell type scorer I doubt the team would have five road losses.

 

[BillyC80]

One lights-out (at or near 40%) shooter from deep who is at least an average defender would make a big difference in close games. Let’s hope one of our new recruits can help in that area.

In the meantime I still think Caleb can be that guy, and eventually Paul can chip in with a couple threes per game. They both need to start looking for their shot behind the arc more. By comparison Geo takes too many threes, at only 20% for the year.

 

[Scangg]

The sweed is supposed to be a legit shooter. Let's hope that pans out

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Rutgers has been more successful than past seasons because of a 13-0 home record.If Rutgers had a Douby or Powell type scorer I doubt the team would have five road losses.

A 13-0 home record because of our defense. We are winning because of a top 10 defense. We shouldn't underestimate the culture and chemistry impact on our team defense. Insert a guy who is about scoring over defense and it isn't a given we are better. For as good as Douby was he was never in the Top 25. There were not stiffs playing along side of him.

 

[CollegeAve]

We did score 80 last night, right?

 

[Scarlet Shack]

I don’t get some of you...we are scoring 70 plus as a team per game in the first time forever ...shooting 46% from the floor as a young team that will get better...and we act like that we are so far off the mark

Patience guys ...the defense is ahead of the offense and when the offense (not if, but when)...look out

 

[RUinFla]

Douby was a great shooter, but he did the will he transfer to Louisville bit for two seasons before finally leaving for the NBA. He was not a good teammate. He didn't play much defense. Saw him in his brief stint in the NBA and he looked lost. All he could do on the court was shoot, which made him a legend in China. Maybe a 100 NBA games, never scored more than 4 PPG a game. And the inevitable question, how do you know he was a bad teammate? When he was a soph, he made Senior Captain Ricky Shields' life unpleasant. Ricky was one of the good guys.

 

[Joey Bacala]

Douby was an assassin. Watch two games his freshman year: St Johns at the RAC (I think coming off the bench) and the NIT semi-final. That's all you need to know. Great example of an amazing college player that was a tweener in the NBA - A shooting guard in a skinny point guard's body.

 

[AZBlues]

No, you remember him correctly, it's just very hard to find a guy like him, incredible/clutch shooter.

Definitely a go-to guy in crunch time.. He shot 46.2% from the field during his last season at RU when he averaged 25.4ppg, and averaged almost nine 3pt attempts per game, making 40.1% of them.

When comparing our current players' stats to Douby's though, it's important to remember that Douby had the benefit of a 3 pt line that was almost 2 feet 5 inches closer to the hoop than the current players have... If the current 3 pt line was at the top of the key like it was back then, I'm sure that our current 3 pt percentages would be higher and closer to Douby's. (Our current top 3pt percentages for this season are McConnell's 38.9%, Yeboah's 37.7%, and Harper's 31.3%... Mulcahy is best at 41.7%, but on only 12 attempts).

 

[RUich]

I was at the Cuse dome when he hung 40pts. on them which may still be the record by someone not wearing orange.
We still lost the game off a last second shot by a bench warmer.

I still have my "doubylieve" t-shirt.

 

[Plum Street]

He was a heck of player. If only we put one or two decent guys around him. I remember a big east tournament game against Villanova where Wright put three guys on him .
He did have a big miss against Syracuse at home and we lost .

 

[Scangg]

Definitely a go-to guy in crunch time.. He shot 46.2% from the field during his last season at RU when he averaged 25.4ppg, and averaged almost nine 3pt attempts per game, making 40.1% of them.

When comparing our current players' stats to Douby's though, it's important to remember that Douby had the benefit of a 3 pt line that was almost 2 feet 5 inches closer to the hoop than the current players have... If the current 3 pt line was at the top of the key like it was back then, I'm sure that our current 3 pt percentages would be higher and closer to Douby's. (Our current top 3pt percentages for this season are McConnell's 38.9%, Yeboah's 37.7%, and Harper's 31.3%... Mulcahy is best at 41.7%, but on only 12 attempts).

Those stats while being the complete focus of the other team's defense. He made some very difficult shots

 

[littlenis5]

Douby was an assassin. Watch two games his freshman year: St Johns at the RAC (I think coming off the bench) and the NIT semi-final. That's all you need to know. Great example of an amazing college player that was a tweener in the NBA - A shooting guard in a skinny point guard's body.

He’d probably be a top 10 pick in today’s NBA and have been given immediate real playing time.

 

[superfan01]

Douby was a great shooter, but he did the will he transfer to Louisville bit for two seasons before finally leaving for the NBA. He was not a good teammate. He didn't play much defense. Saw him in his brief stint in the NBA and he looked lost. All he could do on the court was shoot, which made him a legend in China. Maybe a 100 NBA games, never scored more than 4 PPG a game. And the inevitable question, how do you know he was a bad teammate? When he was a soph, he made Senior Captain Ricky Shields' life unpleasant. Ricky was one of the good guys.

I think he scored 29 in a game in the nba.

 

[RUJMM78]

A 13-0 home record because of our defense. We are winning because of a top 10 defense. We shouldn't underestimate the culture and chemistry impact on our team defense. Insert a guy who is about scoring over defense and it isn't a given we are better. For as good as Douby was he was never in the Top 25. There were not stiffs playing along side of him.

I doubt Rutgers would have a 13-0 record without sellout crowds that causes opponents to under perform. Wisconsin,Indiana,Penn State and Minnesota are recent examples of teams that do rather well at home.

 

[brookdale-soda]

I doubt Rutgers would have a 13-0 record without sellout crowds that causes opponents to under perform. Wisconsin,Indiana,Penn State and Minnesota are recent examples of teams that do rather well at home.

and sellout crowds because of our elite defense and more productive offense.

 

[S.W.A.I.N]

It seems like deja-vu. Again and again, I find myself saying "If only we had a shooter". Am I imagining how consistent Douby was? Maybe in my old age, I am making Douby be better than he was. I just remember him always coming through in the clutch and wanting him to have the ball in his hands when a shot needed to drop. Why can't we find someone who can consistently drop long-range jumpers/ threes? Seems to me that is the missing piece on this team.

SUMMARY

Career

G
95

PTS
17.8

TRB
2.9

AST
2.7

FG%
43.2

FG3%
38.9

FT%
82.0

eFG%
52.6

WS
13.3

He led the best conference in the nation in scoring and was a 1st round pick. If anything, everyone here doesn’t give him his due as a top 5 player in our entire history.

 

[LotusAggressor]

We did score 80 last night, right?

Iowa is not a great defensive team.

 

[Night Man]

He was absolutely amazing his junior year and very good his freshman year. It's better if we don't talk about his sophomore year.

Rosy retrospection in a sense: I don't want to say he wasn't clutch but he didn't accumulate a resume of game winners... 0-2 in that regard from what I remember. Unless we count splitting the FTs against SHU. That Iowa State game was a clutch performance though and there's something to be said for being so good some games that they didn't need a game winner (ISU, @PSU, @SMC, others)

 

[FELONIOUSMONK]

Does he have a son? Q2?

 

[The RUT]

Does he have a son? Q2?

He does. He posts videos of his son working out all the time on Instagram

 

[AZBlues]

He was absolutely amazing his junior year and very good his freshman year. It's better if we don't talk about his sophomore year.

Rosy retrospection in a sense: I don't want to say he wasn't clutch but he didn't accumulate a resume of game winners... 0-2 in that regard from what I remember. Unless we count splitting the FTs against SHU. That Iowa State game was a clutch performance though and there's something to be said for being so good some games that they didn't need a game winner (ISU, @PSU, @SMC, others)

I know he was only a freshman at the time, but what a difference between his NIT semifinal performance in the win over Iowa State (35pts, 10-18 fg, 6-11 from 3, 35 points) and two days later in the NIT Championship game that we lost to Michigan (1-13 fg, 2 points, fouled out near end of game). I didn't see the game.. Was he just really off that night, or did Michigan completely shut him down?

 

[Night Man]

I know he was only a freshman at the time, but what a difference between his NIT semifinal performance in the win over Iowa State (35pts, 10-18 fg, 6-11 from 3, 35 points) and two days later in the NIT Championship game that we lost to Michigan (1-13 fg, 2 points, fouled out near end of game). I didn't see the game.. Was he just really off that night, or did Michigan completely shut him down?

Too long ago for me to remember. Michigan was obviously playing pretty well and he wasn't catching anyone off guard after what he did to ISU, so I get it.

 

[AZBlues]

Too long ago for me to remember. Michigan was obviously playing pretty well and he wasn't catching anyone off guard after what he did to ISU, so I get it.

Thanks. I think I found my answer via Google... Douby didn't get a lot of good looks because of tough D by Michigan, and some rushed shots.

https://www.michigandaily.com/content/blue-completely-shuts-down-red-hot-douby

 

[bac2therac]

He was absolutely amazing his junior year and very good his freshman year. It's better if we don't talk about his sophomore year.

Rosy retrospection in a sense: I don't want to say he wasn't clutch but he didn't accumulate a resume of game winners... 0-2 in that regard from what I remember. Unless we count splitting the FTs against SHU. That Iowa State game was a clutch performance though and there's something to be said for being so good some games that they didn't need a game winner (ISU, @PSU, @SMC, others)

I believe he and Ricky Shields may have not got along that disastrous sophomore Douby year

 

[Night Man]

I believe he and Ricky Shields may have not got along that disastrous sophomore Douby year

No they didn't, and neither of them liked Waters all that much. Bad chemistry team. Hard to forget them missing their first 15 or so threes against Norfolk State.

Edit: sorry, 19. 19 threes. They shot 1-23 as a team. 4%. At home against a middle of the road MEAC team.

 

[BKIn118]

Oddly enough...Q and I are tight to this day. He has plans to come from his home in Florida back to the RAC in a few weeks and check out a game.

His career has been a long and winding road on and off the Court. I'm proud of who he's become both as a representative of our program and in his personal life

 

[Night Man]

Oddly enough...Q and I are tight to this day. He has plans to come from his home in Florida back to the RAC in a few weeks and check out a game.

His career has been a long and winding road on and off the Court. I'm proud of who he's become both as a representative of our program and in his personal life

I'm sure the RAC will announce that he's there and with the packed house he'll get a great reception. Always a nice guy and pretty down to earth for a star on such a stage. The chemistry things from his soph year... egos run wild at that level sometimes

 

[bac2therac]

No they didn't, and neither of them liked Waters all that much. Bad chemistry team. Hard to forget them missing their first 15 or so threes against Norfolk State.

Edit: sorry, 19. 19 threes. They shot 1-23 as a team. 4%. At home against a middle of the road MEAC team.

I remember struggling to beat D2 Arkansas Monticello in an odd mideason Ooc game

Coming off of the NIT final appearance not sure why that season we imploded. I woukd assume it was a case of big egos but why woukd they dislike Waters?

 

[AZBlues]

I remember struggling to beat D2 Arkansas Monticello in an odd mideason Ooc game

Coming off of the NIT final appearance not sure why that season we imploded. I woukd assume it was a case of big egos but why woukd they dislike Waters?

I don't know why they may have disliked Waters... But besides any possible bad blood between guards Douby and Shields contributing to the bad 2004-2005 season, I think losing frontcourt seniors Herve Lamizana and Sean Axani from the '03-'04 NIT finals team definitely hurt too.

 

[Newbrunfus]

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It seems like deja-vu. Again and again, I find myself saying "If only we had a shooter". Am I imagining how consistent Douby was? Maybe in my old age, I am making Douby be better than he was. I just remember him always coming through in the clutch and wanting him to have the ball in his hands when a shot needed to drop. Why can't we find someone who can consistently drop long-range jumpers/ threes? Seems to me that is the missing piece on this team.

SUMMARY

Career

G
95

PTS
17.8

TRB
2.9

AST
2.7

FG%
43.2

FG3%
38.9

FT%
82.0

eFG%
52.6

WS
13.3[/quote]

He led the best conference in the nation in scoring and was a 1st round pick. If anything, everyone here doesn’t give him his due as a top 5 player in our entire history.
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Agreed the kid was an unbelievable scorer like a smaller George Gervin. I have no idea what kind of teammate he was or wasn’t but he was one of the best scorers Rutgers has ever had as well as a very clutch player and we were lucky to have him.

 

[zappaa]

From a purely observational standpoint.
The rotation on the ball and release was something we’ll be waiting a long time to see again

 

[knight82]

We were never ranked when Douby was here so we must be doing something right

 

[Night Man]

I remember struggling to beat D2 Arkansas Monticello in an odd mideason Ooc game

Coming off of the NIT final appearance not sure why that season we imploded. I woukd assume it was a case of big egos but why woukd they dislike Waters?

Yeah Q had a ton of 3s but we actually needed them, it was sort of a hollow feeling as a fan.

Idk exactly why they weren't big on Waters at the time. My only guess was it was a style thing, people blamed a lot on his Midwestern roots, not always true but I really think it was tough for him to connect with SOME kids from the east coast.