2023/24 Bowl Games - Big Ten Teams

[mikemarc1]

How is the pinstripe more prestigious to pick in front of Vegas? Bronx or Vegas? Hmmm

I don’t know, ask the conference.

Higher payout than either if that’s a factor.

 

[BeantownKnight]

This is why the B1G shouldn't play in bowls against the ACC. A bush league for sure.

 

[darkcheck]

I don’t know, ask the conference.

Higher payout than either if that’s a factor.

Thanks. I guess so. But the Bronx is just no picnic. I’m old school, a bowl should be to good weather or an exciting city with a dome. Pinstripe seems like a punishment.

 

[Scarlet Engineer]

Las Vegas bowl payout is $2.9M. Pinstripe is $4.4M. Edit — these were 2022 numbers. Expect same relative difference this year.

 

[mikemarc1]

Thanks. I guess so. But the Bronx is just no picnic. I’m old school, a bowl should be to good weather or an exciting city with a dome. Pinstripe seems like a punishment.

I know it’s played in the Bronx, but most events are held in nyc. To those of us not from here, it’s a great holiday destination

 

[Dpgru]

ND to the Pinstripe Bowl doesn’t make sense. They are 9-3 and will get a much better bowl than that.

I agree except I believe that ND is contractually obligated to be part of the ACC bowl tie ins. So how many bowls are left. Pinstripe might be their only alternative

 

[BeantownKnight]

Thanks. I guess so. But the Bronx is just no picnic. I’m old school, a bowl should be to good weather or an exciting city with a dome. Pinstripe seems like a punishment.

It is. A punishment for not having a decent passing game.

 

[mikemarc1]

I agree except I believe that ND is contractually obligated to be part of the ACC bowl tie ins. So how many bowls are left. Pinstripe might be their only alternative

ACC owes ND nothing. Probably want to make their actual members happy before ND.

 

[RU#1fan]

Thanks. I guess so. But the Bronx is just no picnic. I’m old school, a bowl should be to good weather or an exciting city with a dome. Pinstripe seems like a punishment.

Spot on.

 

[Dpgru]

ACC owes ND nothing. Probably want to make their actual members happy before ND.

Very possibly true.

 

[Source]

I believe the highest attendance for Pinstripe was RU- ND at 47k. Might this one break it?

47,122 Notre Dame 29 Rutgers 16 December 28, 2013
49,012 Penn State 31 Boston College 30 (3OT) December 27, 2014

All other Pinstripe Bowls were under 40,000.

 

[RU#1fan]

Las Vegas bowl payout is $2.9M. Pinstripe is $4.4M. Edit — these were 2022 numbers. Expect same relative difference this year.

The B1G conference divides bowl money equally among all teams
Payouts mean nothing.

 

[fischy5000]

I know it’s played in the Bronx, but most events are held in nyc. To those of us not from here, it’s a great holiday destination

What events?

 

[mikemarc1]

The B1G conference divides bowl money equally among all teams
Payouts mean nothing.

Yes but payouts are used as the Peking order, I believe

 

[Dpgru]

The B1G conference divides bowl money equally among all teams
Payouts mean nothing.

Does the ACC as well.

 

[MGSA99]

The B1G conference divides bowl money equally among all teams
Payouts mean nothing.

It does to ND. They don't have to share with anybody.

 

[Source]

Yes but payouts are used as the Peking order, I believe

But that only applies to bowls played in China.

 

[RU#1fan]

It is. A punishment for not having a decent passing game.

Not according to Al. We have a QB. lol

 

[JavaDunk18]

Vegas picked in front of Pinstripe. So ironically, it was Northwestern’s win over Illinois, not the RU loss to Maryland that kept RU out of Vegas

 

[fischy5000]

It’s prob taking a while because the teams were fighting to get something else so they wouldn’t have to go to pinstripe 😀

 

[RU-Kidding]

But that only applies to bowls played in China.

Lol

 

[Shelby65]

Yes but payouts are used as the Peking order, I believe

Lo mein ? Egg rolls ? what are you talking about ?

 

[mikemarc1]

Vegas picked in front of Pinstripe. So ironically, it was Northwestern’s win over Illinois, not the RU loss to Maryland that kept RU out of Vegas

No they didn’t

 

[Dpgru]

It does to ND. They don't have to share with anybody.

I am not saying you are wrong but if they are part of the ACC tie in package I find it hard to believe that the ACC just lets ND walk away with all the money from one of their bowl games.

 

[RU205]

Hartman again ? No thank you.

Maybe he opts out

 

[Shelby65]

Not according to Al. We have a QB. lol

Punishment for not having a Fieldhouse I think you mean

 

[mikemarc1]

Lo mein ? Egg rolls ? what are you talking about ?

Haha damn auto correct. Someone asked why pinstripe picks ahead of Vegas. It’s cause pinstripe is dishing out more money, hence the get to pick before them

 

[MGSA99]

I am not saying you are wrong but if they are part of the ACC tie in package I find it hard to believe that the ACC just lets ND walk away with all the money from one of their bowl thelll

I am not saying you are wrong but if they are part of the ACC tie in package I find it hard to believe that the ACC just lets ND walk away with all the money from one of their bowl games.

I think it was the same deal as when Notre Dame could steal a Big East bid. Only difference now is that they have to play 5 ACC games.

 

[Shelby65]

Haha damn auto correct. Someone asked why pinstripe picks ahead of Vegas. It’s cause pinstripe is dishing out more money, hence the get to pick before them

Oh, i thought you are at a Chinese restaurant and your phone ….

 

[fischy5000]

Haha damn auto correct. Someone asked why pinstripe picks ahead of Vegas. It’s cause pinstripe is dishing out more money, hence the get to pick before them

You’re wrong. Vegas picks first (bottom of page 2 on chart)
Bowl rules with selection order
https://bigten.org/documents/2023/10/3//2023_24_Big_Ten_Bowl_Overview.pdf?id=8304

 

[Doctor Worm]

Rutgers was available? Kansas would have been a fun test.

Pinstripe selects before Guaranteed Rate. There was no chance that we were going to slide past the Pinstripe. That had been established for some time. The question was whether a bowl would pick us before the Pinstripe had the chance. Answer is no.

 

[mikemarc1]

You’re wrong. Vegas picks first (bottom of page 2 on chart)
Bowl rules with selection order
https://bigten.org/documents/2023/10/3//2023_24_Big_Ten_Bowl_Overview.pdf?id=8304

Good catch. My mistake!!

 

[Tango Two]

 

[JavaDunk18]

6-6 RU would have been picked over a 6-6 Northwestern, with head to head win.

 

[G- RUnit]

B1G has to get better bowls.
Embarrassing for 2nd best league in country.

 

[JavaDunk18]

Why can’t ND go to any of those 3 bowls??

 

[mikemarc1]

6-6 RU would have been picked over a 6-6 Northwestern, with head to head win.

No one to blame but ourselves going 0-4 down the stretch.

 

[RuSnp]

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So ND is either going Sun or Pinstripe based on that.

 

[Dpgru]

Why can’t ND go to any of those 3 bowls??

Good question. Thought the same thing when I read it.

 

[Plum Street]

So ND is either going Sun or Pinstripe based on that.

Notre dame again in the pinstink …. That would stink