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Disagree but it would also matter how he got to 15-21If you're thinking Flood, he's here for at least 3 years even if he goes 15-21 the next 3 seasons. That's when they start thinking about making a change. There's appears to be only one coach in trouble London at Virginia.
Disagree but it would also matter how he got to 15-21
well first the math doesn't work bc it elimates bowl games and basically assumes you win 5 per. My ppint was you could have a bad year this year but show growth over the next two especially if his recruiting contimes to improve. What does Franklin need to do over the next three years to keep his Jobwhat type of 15-21 would be acceptable?
well first the math doesn't work bc it elimates bowl games and basically assumes you win 5 per. My ppint was you could have a bad year this year but show growth over the next two especially if his recruiting contimes to improve. What does Franklin need to do over the next three years to keep his Job
some surprises:
McElwain a 2 and he hasn't even coached a game yet (from opening presser to hot seat)
Golden a 3 even though he's done so little with so much talent (and program is train wreck)
Fedora a 2 (see Golden)
Strong a 3 after 1 season
what type of 15-21 would be acceptable?
go 0-21 and win the next 15
I agree, so who is your next coach going to be?Yeah but if you have a bad year this year why would recruiting improve? Team improvement would be dependent on player development at that point I think
Id say Franklin needs to win 27 or more his next 3 years. Schedules are weak and the talent is flowing in, we should be pushing 10 wins every year
I agree, so who is your next coach going to be?
I don't think he will "fail" by most school's standards because your schedule blows and he can recruit. I also don't think he wins 9 per over the next three years. That being said, if I'm going to pay a guy 5 million a year and give him a cupcake schedule 6, 7, or 8 win type seasons at PSU with their built in advantages is a failure in my book.how is he suppose to predict who our coach would be in 3 years?........assuming Franklin fails accordingly based on the popular opinion around here.
Edsall's extension is a show for recruiting. His buyout is low-if he fails this year, he's gone.
how is he suppose to predict who our coach would be in 3 years?........assuming Franklin fails accordingly based on the popular opinion around here.
I don't think he will "fail" by most school's standards because your schedule blows and he can recruit. I also don't think he wins 9 per over the next three years. That being said, if I'm going to pay a guy 5 million a year and give him a cupcake schedule 6, 7, or 8 win type seasons at PSU with their built in advantages is a failure in my book.
And if that's the case the new coach is going to have a roster full of 4 star Juniors and Seniors
I don't think you will average 9 wins but more like 8 which includes a bowl game. Fans might be unhappy but your AD will keep him. 9 or 8 would be a real failure because that would be 4 or 5 losses every year which means 4-5th in the Big Ten East, for that huge coaches salaries.so is that the win total you're predicting the next 3 years for PSU? if that comes to fruition, then...I'd call that a fail based on expectations that comes w/a 4mm+ salary. that being said....I still wouldn't know who our coach would be.
I don't think you will average 9 wins but more like 8 which includes a bowl game. Fans might be unhappy but your AD will keep him. 9 or 8 would be a real failure because that would be 4 or 5 losses every year which means 4-5th in the Big Ten East, for that huge coaches salaries.
That consultant you just hired, the former NFL Head coach, has to be paid more than $1 million a year that's more than Flood's salary.yes...8-5/9-4 seasons with 4th/5th place finishes in the Big Ten East is not what PSU paid for.......especially in year 3-4. nobody will argue that.
If Flood consistently won 8-9 games and finished 4th-5th in the Big Ten East....he'd received a 10 year extension, as he should.
though, i'm pretty sure none of us can predict the future.....so we shall see.
I don't think you will average 9 wins but more like 8 which includes a bowl game. Fans might be unhappy but your AD will keep him. 9 or 8 would be a real failure because that would be 4 or 5 losses every year which means 4-5th in the Big Ten East, for that huge coaches salaries.
Schiano averaged 9 wins 6 out of his last 7 seasons, 2005-2011, and Rutgers fans still wanted him fired and said he's not a game coach. No titles means a loser to many and 9 wins doesn't get you anything.
2005 Rutgers 7–5 4–3 3rd L Insight
2006 Rutgers 11–2 5–2 T–2nd W Texas 12 12
2007 Rutgers 8–5 3–4 T–5th W International
2008 Rutgers 8–5 5–2 T–2nd W Papajohns.com
2009 Rutgers 9–4 3–4 T–4th W St. Petersburg
2010 Rutgers 4–8 1–6 8th
2011 Rutgers 9–4 4–3 T–4th W Pinstripe
That consultant you just hired, the former NFL Head coach, has to be paid more than $1 million a year that's more than Flood's salary.
6-7 wins is all we are asking for Flood with only 1-2 Big Ten wins. Your expectation for Schiano would be like Michigan, Michigan State or Ohio State for Penn State, good teams. So if Penn State doesn't beat those teams, he's a failure.
I don't think you will average 9 wins but more like 8 which includes a bowl game. Fans might be unhappy but your AD will keep him. 9 or 8 would be a real failure because that would be 4 or 5 losses every year which means 4-5th in the Big Ten East, for that huge coaches salaries.
Schiano averaged 9 wins 6 out of his last 7 seasons, 2005-2011, and Rutgers fans still wanted him fired and said he's not a game coach. No titles means a loser to many and 9 wins doesn't get you anything.
2005 Rutgers 7–5 4–3 3rd L Insight
2006 Rutgers 11–2 5–2 T–2nd W Texas 12 12
2007 Rutgers 8–5 3–4 T–5th W International
2008 Rutgers 8–5 5–2 T–2nd W Papajohns.com
2009 Rutgers 9–4 3–4 T–4th W St. Petersburg
2010 Rutgers 4–8 1–6 8th
2011 Rutgers 9–4 4–3 T–4th W Pinstripe
what type of 15-21 would be acceptable?
Why is there a Crappy valley poster in every thread? It really sucks.
And with the money for a new HC RU would be willing to spend , after letting Kyle go: " a complete unknown" is who they would hire,if not someone already on Flood's staff.Flood isn't going anywhere. Rutgers doesn't have big money to make a change and why take a chance on a complete unknown.
There will be a time where Rutgers will have money for an up and coming if Flood fails. But under the current budget why make a change?And with the money for a new HC RU would be willing to spend , after letting Kyle go: " a complete unknown" is who they would hire,if not someone already on Flood's staff.
Schiano did average the 9 wins but to say it was against easy teams OCC or never beating West Virginia or winning the conference isn't fair. Almost every win for Flood will be easy OOC teams with only 1-2 big Ten wins and none of them being the powerhouse teams in the Big Ten.Rephrase this, don't understand your point. Who is the "we" and what expectations for Schiano are you talking about. thanks!
There will be a time where Rutgers will have money for an up and coming if Flood fails. But under the current budget why make a change?
Huh. What??? Flood will stay for the next few years on financial reasons and will have no say when he is let go. It's not like LSU is looking to hire him away.When the budget allows changing HCs if necessary, Flood will go or stay on his own merits and not for financial reasons.
Hopefully Kyle will have proven by then ,he can take RU to the next level and make it one of the top B1G programs.
I don't expect that to happen this season, but hope the road to success becomes clearer because of the way RU plays in 2015 against the top programs.
Huh. What??? Flood will stay for the next few years on financial reasons and will have no say when he is let go. It's not like LSU is looking to hire him away.