Rutgers-Maryland at Yankee Stadium, per source
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The FOIA request is already in from NJ.com for the contract, I can guarantee that. Unless Duggan's source is bullshit, there is no way someone in the AD would have tried to pin this on Julie if it wasn't actually true. It will come out in a second.
classic for this board overreact and blame people because they can't wait 24 hrs for some facts to come out.
Done deal per Dunleavy. Hobbs is reviewing the details:
http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...rs-football-maryland-yankee-stadium/85013302/
Tylin Oden is on board:
http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...rs-football-maryland-yankee-stadium/85013302/
Tylin Oden is on board:
That makes two of us. If this is what the B1G wants, then so be it. Won't be surprised to start seeing our games on YES, which would be pretty cool. And that will be a big payday $$$$. can't wait to see our next TV contract.
Announced crowd was 44,846. Half that many actually attended- you know- soccer practice for the kids, Macy's white sale, mother-in-law was in town; there was a cloud in the sky, Flood sucked, the usual nonsense from a woeful fan base.
The turnout is going to be embarrassing and will not look well. I can already see the articles and headlines snickering at our crowd at this game given the fact that we are trying to establish ourselves as "NYC's team".
But I'm not sure how playing at MetLife or Yankee Stadium means major money. The math just doesn't support it.
In 2014 (the last year figures are available for) Rutgers earned an average of $1.6 MM for each home game. That is the sum of ticket sales + parking/concessions + an estimate for in-stadium advertising, minus the sum of game day expenses + 1/7 total guarantees paid to visiting teams. But Rutgers doesn't pay guarantees to visiting conference teams, so that expense doesn't apply to conference games. (Ticket prices are also above average for conference games, but for the purposes of this calculation, we'll assume all games earn the average in ticket sales.) So for a conference game, Rutgers earns about $1.8 MM.
According the the NJ.com article linked earlier in this thread, Rutgers was paid $2.7 MM to play the game at the Meadowlands in 2010. Take away the $1.8 that Rutgers would have earned from a home game, and that means Rutgers got an additional $900K to play at the Meadowlands. But then you also have to take away the increased travel expenses. Average travel expenses for a road game are $360K. But the average road game also includes air travel and additional hotel. On the other hand, Rutgers provided free buses for students to attend the Meadowlands game, and even without air travel will need to transport the team, equipment, band, cheerleaders, etc, to a game at the Meadowlands or Yankee Stadium. So lets assume travel costs for a game at the Meadowlands is just over 1/4 that of an average road game, 100K to make the math easy.
So the net profit to Rutgers to play a similar game at the Meadowlands is $800K. Hardly what I would call "major money" worth pissing off 90% of your season ticket base. And Yankee Stadium is much smaller than MetLife, so they can't sell as many tickets to reach the same payout as the Meadowlands (plus many more people will use public transportation or park in non-Yankee-controlled lots, so their parking revenue will be much less). So what will be the net profit on a game at Yankee Stadium, $400K? That's a one-half-of-one-percent increase in revenue for the athletic department. That is a rounding error on the financial statements.
There was a news story two weeks ago about Rutgers scheduled games with Buffalo and also moving the dates of the Temple games.
The news story noted that "The agreement was reached on May 15, 2015, according to the contract, which was signed by then-Rutgers athletics director Julie Hermann. Buffalo athletics director Allen Green, who was promoted to the position in November, did not sign until last month."
There isn't any obligation for Rutgers to announce these until they choose to, if they choose to. They just need to respond to open records requests, which they have done, and that's how contracts like this get released. As I said earlier, I guarantee the request for the contract for this game has already been filed.
.... by the other side. Also, signature does not determine effective date. Contract itself will designate what is the effective date and when up to how long it can be signed.
In the done deal Dunleavy article link Knight Shift provided:
>Ash's predecessor, Kyle Flood, was a New York native and lifelong Yankees fan who was known to favor such an opportunity.<
To think I defended him before realizing how bad for RU he really was.:chairshot:
>Ash's predecessor, Kyle Flood, was a New York native and lifelong Yankees fan who was known to favor such an opportunity.<
To think I defended him before realizing how bad for RU he really was.:chairshot:
I agree.
From talking with Hobbs briefly at a fundraising event, he seemed like a really honest guy. I asked him if he feels like the media has treated him better than his predecessor. He said that he is always honest with the media and will tell them everything he can, if he can. That when the APR downgrade happened a reporter asked if he was mad at the headline, and Hobbs said no. That's who we are right now and we have to get better.
All of that to say he has done nothing to show that he would try to mislead us so far, so I trust him. And if we get more money out of it that can go towards the R B1G Build Fund, that's pretty great too.
Ok. Can we stop the nonsense about how this is what Delaney and the B1G want, or that this is what it takes to make us relevant in NYC?
The B1G had Nothing to do with this. This is all on Rutgers. Had this come out last year I would have moved to the fire Flood and Julie camp much sooner.
The B1G had Nothing to do with this. This is all on Rutgers. Had this come out last year I would have moved to the fire Flood and Julie camp much sooner.
No one is being punished. I will pay for my tickets and make my donations, but a statement by the fans to underline how unhappy this makes us is not a bad thing. And don't worry about the players. They can handle it.
The important thing is that this does not become a regular thing.
Okay, now that you guys have your panties all twisted. 2017 is when the next World Cup of Baseball or whatever the F it's called is played. This thing pushes the MLB season out a week & causes the World Series to expand into November. Remember Mr November?
No way the Yankees can guarantee the field for November 4, 2017 until they are out of playoff contention
No way the Yankees can guarantee the field for November 4, 2017 until they are out of playoff contention
(2013 article) Dienhart: Pinstripe Bowl deal helps grow Big Ten brand « Big Ten Network
>And, according to a report, the deal announced today also will include “additional future conference events” at venerable Yankee Stadium.<
http://btn.com/2013/06/03/dienhart-pinstripe-bowl-deal-helps-grow-big-ten-brand/
No, bad idea, Hobbs must get out of this. We cannot play Big 10 home games at Yankee stadium. We are playing with the big boys now. OSU does not play games in baseball stadiums. We are in the same division as them, we need to act like it. I don't care how many Rutgers days, or how many first pitches Ash and Hobbs throw out at yankee stadium, Rutgers must not do this. Let Syracuse, Uconn, and army play these games.
These games are an insult to season ticket holders. Bad place to watch a game, if you sit on the 35 at HPSS, you will be sitting in the endzone at Yankee stadium. No tailgating, bad atmosphere.
Why in the world would Rutgers take a Big 10 home game, a game we desperately will need to win, and turn it into a neutral site game at a bad place for football. Sorry, this game makes no sense on any level.
These games are an insult to season ticket holders. Bad place to watch a game, if you sit on the 35 at HPSS, you will be sitting in the endzone at Yankee stadium. No tailgating, bad atmosphere.
Why in the world would Rutgers take a Big 10 home game, a game we desperately will need to win, and turn it into a neutral site game at a bad place for football. Sorry, this game makes no sense on any level.
What if it is a huge success? - what if ....
it is a full house - with gorgeous weather
- on TV as a highly promoted 'showcased' game
- if the game actually meant something significant
- if it was exciting & well played & Rutgers proves to be decidedly superior
.. and a huge bunch of high caliber recruits from around the country were in on visits - saw the game & were just delirious with the atmosphere - texting selfies back home saying "I'm in YANKEE STADIUM" ... and - get convinced that the Rutgers Program is the choice for them?
Who knows how it will work out, but you can be certain if it happens, it is not just going to be some minimal publicity, poorly executed hot mess that is little more than an "alternate venue" game - - that is only distinguished by crappy sight-lines for many seats and a logistical nightmare.
it is a full house - with gorgeous weather
- on TV as a highly promoted 'showcased' game
- if the game actually meant something significant
- if it was exciting & well played & Rutgers proves to be decidedly superior
.. and a huge bunch of high caliber recruits from around the country were in on visits - saw the game & were just delirious with the atmosphere - texting selfies back home saying "I'm in YANKEE STADIUM" ... and - get convinced that the Rutgers Program is the choice for them?
Who knows how it will work out, but you can be certain if it happens, it is not just going to be some minimal publicity, poorly executed hot mess that is little more than an "alternate venue" game - - that is only distinguished by crappy sight-lines for many seats and a logistical nightmare.
Of course it was Flood. And his supporters claimed he was going to get another P5 job!
This is so stupid for so many reasons. Big teams do NOT give up home games, ever. If we want to recruit against Michigan how the eff is this going to help the cause? This makes us look incredibly small time.
There is no novelty. There is a bowl game there, we played in it twice and played Army there. This isn't like Wrigley Field where the offense could only go one way so you get a little national interest to see how that works.
If they wanted to do this, here is a solution, have a one time game against Cuse or someone else with some local fans, non conference, not a home game. That fans would like.
And I live closer to the Bronx, but for me, home games are played in Piscataway, the end.
Even if not Hobbs' choice, he needs to manage this. There will be 20k there if we are not undefeated or close to it and justifiably so. This is not how you build a fanbase.
This is so stupid for so many reasons. Big teams do NOT give up home games, ever. If we want to recruit against Michigan how the eff is this going to help the cause? This makes us look incredibly small time.
There is no novelty. There is a bowl game there, we played in it twice and played Army there. This isn't like Wrigley Field where the offense could only go one way so you get a little national interest to see how that works.
If they wanted to do this, here is a solution, have a one time game against Cuse or someone else with some local fans, non conference, not a home game. That fans would like.
And I live closer to the Bronx, but for me, home games are played in Piscataway, the end.
Even if not Hobbs' choice, he needs to manage this. There will be 20k there if we are not undefeated or close to it and justifiably so. This is not how you build a fanbase.
I'm just happy it isn't Ohio State, Penn State or Michigan @ Yankee Stadium...it would be like giving up a home game for a road game. I'll likely go, as my daughter is a UMD alum, living in the city. We'll make it a day. Yes, I'd prefer all home games to be on campus, but these things aren't my choice.
Why not have EVERY Rutgers-Maryland game at Yankee stadium.. like Florida-Georgia and Texas-Oklahoma... or make it The Linc.
Giving up home games in an on-campus football stadium to go play in a baseball stadium in the Bronx.. makes no sense.
Giving up home games in an on-campus football stadium to go play in a baseball stadium in the Bronx.. makes no sense.
Smart move by RU administration here. As Knute Rockne said, if you want to be Americas team you gotta play in NYC
So let me get this straight, 3 weeks ago u were on here yelling at me about allow Rutgers has more fans in the city than any other school and now ur saying that we will have an embarrassing turnout since the game is being played in the city?.... I think u just like arguing
I have a better idea. Let's play ALL the PSU games at LFF.
RU has more fans in NYC then any other School and unlike you understand the meaning of home field advantage along with the joy of tailgating with other RU fans at Rutgers Stadium.
Just because a RU FB Fan lives in the city doesn't mean he prefers Yankee Stadium to Rutgers Stadium and isn't upset that a home game will be held there.
Have to disagree with you on this Bac. Maryland is more of a rival than Indiana because we're usually battling them for recruits.
I'll go to a football game at Yankee Stadium right after Michigan plays a home game against Indiana at Comerica Park in Detroit.
That's not at all what I was saying. Read what I wrote. I was responding to the fact that the same poster who was going on and on less than a month ago about how many RU fans are in NYC is now saying we will have an embarrassing turnout... Which one is it is my question? If ND, Michigan, PSU, Ohio State, etc played a game in NYC no matter what time of year the place would be sold out... personally, I think it's a good move for RU to expand the brand.
Other big ten schools play neutral site game often... Maryland did it last year, hell Indiana played a HOME GAME in Washington DC a few years back, it's a good payday and RU needs as much money as we can get
Not sure what one has to do with tbe other..
Of course, if ND, OSU, etc play at YS..it will sell out..how many "home games" do they play in the area?? That will be an event to them. They wont get to see them play every 3 weeks.
Dude I'll have what you are smoking. That a whole bunch of complete horse crap.
If you haven't noticed there has been zero excitement for the Pinstripe Bowl run by one of the best marketing sports franchises in the world. It's a complete black hole!
And really?? revenge for a game 70% of the fan base has never heard of??
