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1st Quarter was as bad as it gets, but the next 3 showed plenty to get excited about

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Obviously the team looked like it was their first game as a group. There was a lot of change and they were not ready for the #14 team in he country today. But after the 1st quarter RU only gave up one defensive TD and it was off the interception down to the 5 yard line. There defense gave up less than 400 yards to a potent offense. Special teams needs A LOT of work. It looked very bad. Offensively RU got better as the game progressed. Yes hey we're playing against second string late but improvements none the less. The new run offense produced positive runs on almost every play. The glaring missing piece was the down field throws to open up the defense. If RU can't keep the D honest by throwing down field then they will have a hard time competing. Horrible result but plenty of positives to take away.
 
Really ? This looked like. A 90s team coachd by 90s coaches. Despite of all the (I know better changes)'by Ash.
 
I can't really look at what the offense or defense did after the first quarter as a positive. If Rutgers made the game somewhat close then yes you could, but Washington was coasting through those quarters and never had to try after the first quarter.
 
Obviously the team looked like it was their first game as a group. There was a lot of change and they were not ready for the #14 team in he country today. But after the 1st quarter RU only gave up one defensive TD and it was off the interception down to the 5 yard line. There defense gave up less than 400 yards to a potent offense. Special teams needs A LOT of work. It looked very bad. Offensively RU got better as the game progressed. Yes hey we're playing against second string late but improvements none the less. The new run offense produced positive runs on almost every play. The glaring missing piece was the down field throws to open up the defense. If RU can't keep the D honest by throwing down field then they will have a hard time competing. Horrible result but plenty of positives to take away.

You blew it at " potent offense " . Washington had one of the worst Offenses in the PAC 12 last year ( 9th out of the 12 PAC teams last year) . They are known for their Defense.
 
I'm not sure I saw a whole to get excited about yet, but this was a perfect storm of difficulties for Rutgers: all new coaches at the top, new style of offense, a new head coach taking over after 4 years of a former head coach beating the program down and then playing away against a ranked team with a great coach. They had everything going against them and nothing going for them. We'll see in the coming weeks if more reason to be optimistic appears.
 
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I'm not sure I saw a whole to get excited about yet, but this was a perfect storm of difficulties for Rutgers: all new coaches at the top, new style of offense, a new head coach taking over after 4 years of a former head coach beating the program down and then playing away against a ranked team with a great coach. They had everything going against them and nothing going for them. We'll see in the coming weeks if more reason to be optimistic appears.

Good post!
 
If you want to dig and I do mean DIG for positives UW had 27 points from the LOS with 1 or 2 drives starting in RU territory, 21 on returns and TO which put the ball on the 5? RU held them below their last season's rushing average, shutting down their big time RB in the process.

Ok, that's all I got.
 
Why is every Rutgers opponent made out to be a playoff team after they play us? Washington is good. Very good even. But they're not the phenomenal team they're described as here. In their most recent game before this (nine months ago) they outlasted Southern Miss and beat them by less than 2TDs. Top 25? Sure. Top 10? Doubtful.
 
Why is every Rutgers opponent made out to be a playoff team after they play us? Washington is good. Very good even. But they're not the phenomenal team they're described as here. In their most recent game before this (nine months ago) they outlasted Southern Miss and beat them by less than 2TDs. Top 25? Sure. Top 10? Doubtful.

Could Washington win the PAC12 and make the playoffs? Yes.

Will they? Probably not but a couple contenders (USC and UCLA) played like pretenders yesterday. Still think it'll be Stanford.

It's way too early to say they're Top 10 or Top 20. Give it a couple weeks before you can reasonably slot them.
 
Look we played ok after the 1st Q, but if you think Washington was going full throttle in the 2nd half, I don't know what game you were watching. They could have dropped 60 on us no problem
 
Why is every Rutgers opponent made out to be a playoff team after they play us? Washington is good. Very good even. But they're not the phenomenal team they're described as here. In their most recent game before this (nine months ago) they outlasted Southern Miss and beat them by less than 2TDs. Top 25? Sure. Top 10? Doubtful.

Posts like this are puzzling. I am not picking on you. Chris Petersen is an elite coach. UW has elite players. USC and UCLA looked pedestrian yesterday. So did the Arizona teams. Stanford was meh. It's too early to tell, but UW looks like they may be a top 10 team.
 
If you want to dig and I do mean DIG for positives UW had 27 points from the LOS with 1 or 2 drives starting in RU territory, 21 on returns and TO which put the ball on the 5? RU held them below their last season's rushing average, shutting down their big time RB in the process.

Ok, that's all I got.

Look we played ok after the 1st Q, but if you think Washington was going full throttle in the 2nd half, I don't know what game you were watching. They could have dropped 60 on us no problem

How is this for sunshine pumping?
Take WR Ross out of the game (3 TDs) and the special teams (2 TDs), and we win yesterday 14-13. [banana]

Rutgers gained over 300 yards against a tough defense. [banana]

Rutgers time of possession was 33 minutes vs. 27 minutes for UW. We just need to be more productive with that time. :weary:

Ash was pressed in his presser about the coverage scheme. He acknowledged it was not the scheme but more the speed of Ross.
 
I couldn't watch the game yesterday, but I did watch the highlights of the 3 long TDs we gave up yesterday. In two of the 3 instances the safety was way late in providing help over the top, and they had 2 WRs - Ross and the other kid - who have the speed to take the top of a D. Ross is a burner. On the other play Ross drew Andre Hunt in single coverage, which is a total mismatch. Ross beat Hunt by several steps on a go route. Hampton was covering the deep half and was way late in providing help to Hunt.

Ross is UDub's best player, but he missed all of last season, so I'm not sure if there was a lot of film on him. Still it looks like the staff adjusted in the second half and probably shaded a safety to his side of the field when ever he lined up.
 
Look we played ok after the 1st Q, but if you think Washington was going full throttle in the 2nd half, I don't know what game you were watching. They could have dropped 60 on us no problem

Didn't watch. Only know what I heard on the radio. Are you saying Washington called off the dogs after 1 Qtr that sounds a little far fetched to me. As far as I could tell they were still going 1st team through the 3rd, no?
 
There is no way they called off the dogs after the 1st quarter. They were driving and looking to pad their lead when it was 31 - 3 with under a minute to go before the end of the first half. My friend watched the game and said they didn't sit their starters until the 4th quarter.
 
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Didn't watch. Only know what I heard on the radio. Are you saying Washington called off the dogs after 1 Qtr that sounds a little far fetched to me. As far as I could tell they were still going 1st team through the 3rd, no?

Their game plan was much more conservative after the first quarter.. barely targeted WRs.. more runs and other clock killing plays.
 
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I couldn't watch the game yesterday, but I did watch the highlights of the 3 long TDs we gave up yesterday. In two of the 3 instances the safety was way late in providing help over the top, and they had 2 WRs - Ross and the other kid - who have the speed to take the top of a D. Ross is a burner. On the other play Ross drew Andre Hunt in single coverage, which is a total mismatch. Ross beat Hunt by several steps on a go route. Hampton was covering the deep half and was way late in providing help to Hunt.

Ross is UDub's best player, but he missed all of last season, so I'm not sure if there was a lot of film on him. Still it looks like the staff adjusted in the second half and probably shaded a safety to his side of the field when ever he lined up.
Ross did not play at all during the second half
 
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There is no way they called off the dogs after the 1st quarter. They were driving and looking to pad their lead when it was 31 - 3 with under a minute to go before the end of the first half. My friend watched the game and said they didn't sit their starters until the 4th quarter.
No, I agree. They called TOs in minute before the half to score more, so they were still going full steam in the 2nd.
 
Posts like this are puzzling. I am not picking on you. Chris Petersen is an elite coach. UW has elite players. USC and UCLA looked pedestrian yesterday. So did the Arizona teams. Stanford was meh. It's too early to tell, but UW looks like they may be a top 10 team.
I don't see a top 10 team here! Washington is good, but I don't see great here. They mustered up 91 total rushing yards and we held the highly acclaimed Gaskin to 57. On the other hand we rushed for 136 yards. Yes, you can say they called the dogs if you want, but still in the end the total yards were Washington 388 and RU 304. If not for 2 run backs for TD'S and 2 turnovers by Laviano, this game could have been closer. We as a team have a long way to go, but still saw some positives and The Huskies will have to face much tougher competition in the weeks to come. Final Prediction Washington ends up with an 8-4 record.
 
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I don't see a top 10 team here! Washington is good, but I don't see great here. They mustered up 91 total rushing yards and we held the highly acclaimed Gaskin to 57. On the other hand we rushed for 136 yards. Yes, you can say they called the dogs if you want, but still in the end the total yards were Washington 388 and RU 304. If not for 2 run backs for TD'S and 2 turnovers by Laviano, this game could have been closer. We as a team have a long way to go, but still saw some positives and The Huskies will have to face much tougher competition in the weeks to come. Final Prediction Washington ends up with an 8-4 record.

It's always hard to judge any team after the first week. I agree with a lot of what you said. A sunshine pumper like me would say if you ignored the 3 long TD passes (2 Ross, 1 Chico) and the ST TDs, we would have one the game. But we know this much about RU- the OL was challenged by a large, athletic DL, and our offense was very challenged on several levels-particularly in the passing game and in finishing off drives. As for Washington, Petersen is an elite coach, and he will use his offensive and ST weapons to score a lot of points, and that DL and linebackers are going to give a lot of team fits this year.
 
There is no way they called off the dogs after the 1st quarter. They were driving and looking to pad their lead when it was 31 - 3 with under a minute to go before the end of the first half. My friend watched the game and said they didn't sit their starters until the 4th quarter.

UW started rotating in freshman in the second quarter. They started subbing in large chunks in the third. As for the pre halftime situation, they were looking to run their two minute offense and the situation was there. Better they do it then otherwise you have hard choice at end of game.
 
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I don't see a top 10 team here! Washington is good, but I don't see great here. They mustered up 91 total rushing yards and we held the highly acclaimed Gaskin to 57. On the other hand we rushed for 136 yards. Yes, you can say they called the dogs if you want, but still in the end the total yards were Washington 388 and RU 304. If not for 2 run backs for TD'S and 2 turnovers by Laviano, this game could have been closer. We as a team have a long way to go, but still saw some positives and The Huskies will have to face much tougher competition in the weeks to come. Final Prediction Washington ends up with an 8-4 record.

136 yards rushing on 48 carries.
 
I'm not sure I saw a whole to get excited about yet, but this was a perfect storm of difficulties for Rutgers: all new coaches at the top, new style of offense, a new head coach taking over after 4 years of a former head coach beating the program down and then playing away against a ranked team with a great coach. They had everything going against them and nothing going for them. We'll see in the coming weeks if more reason to be optimistic appears.
Don't forget traveling across the country for a road game.
 
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I'm not sure I saw a whole to get excited about yet, but this was a perfect storm of difficulties for Rutgers: all new coaches at the top, new style of offense, a new head coach taking over after 4 years of a former head coach beating the program down and then playing away against a ranked team with a great coach. They had everything going against them and nothing going for them. We'll see in the coming weeks if more reason to be optimistic appears.

Spot-freakin'-ON!
 
How is this for sunshine pumping?
Take WR Ross out of the game (3 TDs) and the special teams (2 TDs), and we win yesterday 14-13. [banana]

Rutgers gained over 300 yards against a tough defense. [banana]

Rutgers time of possession was 33 minutes vs. 27 minutes for UW. We just need to be more productive with that time. :weary:

Ash was pressed in his presser about the coverage scheme. He acknowledged it was not the scheme but more the speed of Ross.

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136 yards rushing on 48 carries.
Just was throwing out some stats here for the hell of it Moondawgie. And Washington had 91 yards on 30 carries. Not much better! The main point was I thought we shut down their main threat running back pretty well for 57 yards on 15 carries. That's the only positive thing I saw in that game. That's all!
 
Just was throwing out some stats here for the hell of it Moondawgie. And Washington had 91 yards on 30 carries. Not much better! The main point was I thought we shut down their main threat running back pretty well for 57 yards on 15 carries. That's the only positive thing I saw in that game. That's all!

All good. I've just seen folks point to the amount of rushing yards against UW for this game and last year but the reality is they typically are pretty hard fought. As for Gaskin, Rutgers did a good job keying on the run.
 
Kids' heads were spinning. Some plays, they didn't seem to know exactly where to line up. Suggests to me they might not even know exactly what route they were running.

On most teams, you can rely on the upperclassmen, but with new schemes on both sides of the ball, we don't have that luxury.

Starting to think we played the kids who at least could line up right. There is a lot to figure out -- formation, route, snap count, audibles, responsibility, etc. -- before the ball is even snapped.

Safeties were a step slow on the TDs -- thinking too much?

LB got stuck covering a WR -- missed audible?

Maybe Goodwin knows the playbook and pass protections better?

Same with Laviano?

I was steaming on Sat. too -- this is the stuff I tell myself to calm down. Hopefully it helps others as well.
 
Kids' heads were spinning. Some plays, they didn't seem to know exactly where to line up. Suggests to me they might not even know exactly what route they were running.

On most teams, you can rely on the upperclassmen, but with new schemes on both sides of the ball, we don't have that luxury.

Starting to think we played the kids who at least could line up right. There is a lot to figure out -- formation, route, snap count, audibles, responsibility, etc. -- before the ball is even snapped.

Safeties were a step slow on the TDs -- thinking too much?

LB got stuck covering a WR -- missed audible?

Maybe Goodwin knows the playbook and pass protections better?

Same with Laviano?

I was steaming on Sat. too -- this is the stuff I tell myself to calm down. Hopefully it helps others as well.
Goodwin is a better blocker and pass receiver. So I feel Ash thought he fits in well with this type of Offense because he offers another dimension. So he would give him a go for the start. When it was not working well he gave Hicks the ball and Hicks produced 70 yards rushing. There will be many tweaks in this Offensive depending on who we play and I feel confident that Ash will make those adjustments accordingly.
 
Kids' heads were spinning. Some plays, they didn't seem to know exactly where to line up. Suggests to me they might not even know exactly what route they were running.

On most teams, you can rely on the upperclassmen, but with new schemes on both sides of the ball, we don't have that luxury.

Starting to think we played the kids who at least could line up right. There is a lot to figure out -- formation, route, snap count, audibles, responsibility, etc. -- before the ball is even snapped.

Safeties were a step slow on the TDs -- thinking too much?

LB got stuck covering a WR -- missed audible?

Maybe Goodwin knows the playbook and pass protections better?

Same with Laviano?

I was steaming on Sat. too -- this is the stuff I tell myself to calm down. Hopefully it helps others as well.
All good points. From what I saw they looked a step slow mentally in the first half. After 2-3 more games that should improve. Physically and scheme wise I liked how he team looked. I expect plenty of adjustments on offense after the OC sees more game action but by the end of the season this team should be light years ahead of last year.
 
For all the talk of winning in the trenches our OL got DESTROYED by a very good DL that was B1G caliber. Our DL improved as day went on. One player that quietly looked decent was Myles Nash. Special teams seriously regressed. They were our one bright spot in years past.
 
How is this for sunshine pumping?
Take WR Ross out of the game (3 TDs) and the special teams (2 TDs), and we win yesterday 14-13. [banana]

Rutgers gained over 300 yards against a tough defense. [banana]

Rutgers time of possession was 33 minutes vs. 27 minutes for UW. We just need to be more productive with that time. :weary:

Ash was pressed in his presser about the coverage scheme. He acknowledged it was not the scheme but more the speed of Ross.

Watching the highlights I could see how much faster Ross was than our secondary. You can't coach against that. Reminded me of Tim Brown for us.
 
Obviously the team looked like it was their first game as a group. There was a lot of change and they were not ready for the #14 team in he country today. But after the 1st quarter RU only gave up one defensive TD and it was off the interception down to the 5 yard line. There defense gave up less than 400 yards to a potent offense. Special teams needs A LOT of work. It looked very bad. Offensively RU got better as the game progressed. Yes hey we're playing against second string late but improvements none the less. The new run offense produced positive runs on almost every play. The glaring missing piece was the down field throws to open up the defense. If RU can't keep the D honest by throwing down field then they will have a hard time competing. Horrible result but plenty of positives to take away.

I would like to have whatever you are having.
 
Watching the highlights I could see how much faster Ross was than our secondary. You can't coach against that. Reminded me of Tim Brown for us.
Yes you can coach against that. It's called safety help over the top. When Ross plays against other teams they will provide deep help.
 
I'm sorry, I must have missed when Rutgers "looked better" after Q1. It was 48-3 at the end of Q3.
 
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