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2016 RU HC Candidates: Rhule,Frost and Anderson all mentioned

I like Scott Frost a lot. Has coached and played on both sides of the ball. Not sure where he lived when he played for the Jets but I would think he might have gotten an understanding of the area in that time.
 
You all know I wanted Frost here like three years ago. Mario can be a great pick, but Lincoln Riley is a freaking prodigy. This dudes Lincoln is going to excel at whatever he wants.

http://herosports.com/collegefootball/candidates-rutgers-head-coaching-job-kyle-flood-fired/
Didn't you mention last year you were somehow connected to Riley through a cousin or something? He isn't ready....we don't need another guy learning on the job. Especially not a 32 year old.
Dino Babers
If we had balls and came up with real money I'd try to lure Rich rod back east.
 
I mentioned him and think he's the type of guy Charlie Strong should have hired to be his OC at the start of the season but not for a HC job and certainly not on this level. He needs more time to prove himself. If I'm not completely sold on Frost yet without Mariota, I'm not sold on Riley.
 
Why isn't Rod Carey on that list? Making $525,000 at NIU. Killing it and gave tOSU a run for their money last night. Loved the aggressiveness of their defense.

Or maybe Bielema will get fired and Robb Smith will be available?
 
Banning feels so good!
Yea not so much. I was all for the firing him in 2013 and still feel this is not the right time to make a coaching change. I had hoped Flood would continue to get us to bowls and then when we are fully vested we should hire a big name the the B1G money. Unfortunately, more unforced errors are probably going to force the AD's hand. We will end up spending around 2 million and could be having this same conversation in 3 years.
 
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Yea not so much. I was all for the firing him in 2013 and still feel this is not the right time to make a coaching change. I had hoped Flood would continue to get us to bowls and then when we are fully vested we should hire a big name the the B1G money. Unfortunately, more unforced errors are probably going to force the AD's hand. We will end up spending around 2 million and could be having this same conversation in 3 years.

Do you think we could afford Herman's buyout (2.25 million) and a raise for him?

edit. At this point, I just think we need a clean slate more than anything else, the past 2 weeks wounded this program heavily.
 
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Banning feels so good!

You do realize that you were far from alone in wanting him fired years ago, right? You act as if you were the lone gunman, MANY, MANY, MANY RU fans thought he would destroy the program. Sadly, it looks as if that may be the case.
 
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Not happy with any of them mentioned. I want P5 head coaching experience.
 
Why isn't Rod Carey on that list? Making $525,000 at NIU. Killing it and gave tOSU a run for their money last night. Loved the aggressiveness of their defense.

Or maybe Bielema will get fired and Robb Smith will be available?
Pretty sure Robb Smith with be available if you want to make him HC
 
Banning feels so good!
Umm, no. Even broken clocks are right twice a day. Nice how some people like to crawl out of the woodwork when things turn out the way they wanted them to. Besides, as noted, Rutgers was and is obviously not willing to spend money to buy out Flood and go big time. I doubt they will even do it now. So you can say could have, should have, would have all you want, but unless you and your buddies can commandeer about $10-15 million or more to fund a buyout, new head coach and assistants for the next 3 years, nothing will change unless someone else puts up that money.
 
Didn't you mention last year you were somehow connected to Riley through a cousin or something? He isn't ready....we don't need another guy learning on the job. Especially not a 32 year old.
Dino Babers
If we had balls and came up with real money I'd try to lure Rich rod back east.

Vk----fyi- on multiple occasions in the past lincoln riley let it be known that he was interested in the RU oc gig. However flood never at least called.

Some people are just the way they are and myopic
 
Vk----fyi- on multiple occasions in the past lincoln riley let it be known that he was interested in the RU oc gig. However flood never at least called.

Some people are just the way they are and myopic
Too bad if true, but that would have meant Flood would have to accept moving over to a spread offense.
 
Vk----fyi- on multiple occasions in the past lincoln riley let it be known that he was interested in the RU oc gig. However flood never at least called.

Some people are just the way they are and myopic

Again, its funny how a legendary coach like Bob Stoops will take chances/risks with hot and upcoming coordinators to give his team an edge and stay with the times but a below average guy like Flood is above that. I wonder which guy is a winner.
 
Does Flood make it through the year? What's the best thing to do for the team and the recruits?

Let's face it, we'll be lucky if we get 4 wins.
 
Not happy with any of them mentioned. I want P5 head coaching experience.
Not likely unless it's a coach fired like Strong/Bielema in the future. I wouldn't assume that either of those guys will be let go though.

As to P5 experience. It's nice but not a deal breaker for me at all. Let's see some other schools with more money than us what they did. Florida Meyer/McElwain neither with P5 experience, Texas Strong, Ole Miss Freeze, Miss. St Mullen, Auburn Malzahn. Texas A&M Sumlin, Oregon Helfrich,OU Bob Stoops, ND Kelly, Georgia Richt, FSU Fisher, etc..

Notice a pattern? It's not necessary. Would it be nice? Sure but not mandatory. Just identify someone who is a good coach. Easier said then done but that's what necessary not a ton of money and not P5 experience...
 
Again, its funny how a legendary coach like Bob Stoops will take chances/risks with hot and upcoming coordinators to give his team an edge and stay with the times but a below average guy like Flood is above that. I wonder which guy is a winner.
What are you talking about? Flood wants to run a pro offense. Wrong or right that's his style and Riley doesn't fit that mold. Is our present OC not considered young or an up and comer?
 
What are you talking about? Flood wants to run a pro offense. Wrong or right that's his style and Riley doesn't fit that mold. Is our present OC not considered young or an up and comer?

You think McDaniels or Rossi would get another P5 OC/DC job? ZERO % chance. McDaniels was picked because he was the cheapest option, just like Rossi. Let's not kid ourselves and think otherwise. Nothing Flood does could be considered progressive.

Riley was an absolute stud as an OC at ECU..had one of, if not the best/highest powered offenses in college football. McDaniels isn't even in same stratosphere.
 
That would be Schiano
NO!
1. He would want too much $
2. Would not be able to get high end coordinators (only cast-off/retreads, or young bucs because he meddles/controls too much, and he's not really good at game planning.
3. He would recruit really well.
4. Would be very good at managing the program.
5. Too over the top ( I read an article/interview with a Tampa player when GS was there, player said "one day at practice GS was screaming and yelling, everyone stopped, thought something horrible happened.......he was yelling at the special teams coach b/c several special teams players ran out of their practice area and crossed over onto another coaches area ON ONE PLAY.....when everyone found out what the commotion was all about, their thoughts went from thinking something horrific happened to wow, we have a live one here.
 
My first calls would be Dino Babers and Matt Campbell (Campbell may end up with more P5 wins at Toledo than Rutgers this year). I don't know what happened down at USF, but Skip Holtz has his guys at La. Tech playing real well. Willie Fritz would be an interesting phone call as well. Justin Fuente, while I've heard culturally he's a better fit in SEC or Big 12, is a very good coach. Herman's buyout is likely prohibitive. I value head coaching experience so that's why I'd put them first.
 
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With the way our athletic dept is perceived nationally, I think RU should first focus on improving its image and this may require realignment at the top.

What big name coach is gonna want to come here with a suspicion that the athletic dept is dysfunctional.

We need an AD that can stand their ground with the media and doesn't go into hiding every time there's a perceived 'scandal'
 
Again, its funny how a legendary coach like Bob Stoops will take chances/risks with hot and upcoming coordinators to give his team an edge and stay with the times but a below average guy like Flood is above that. I wonder which guy is a winner.

Doesn't McDaniels fit that description?
 
You think McDaniels or Rossi would get another P5 OC/DC job? ZERO % chance. McDaniels was picked because he was the cheapest option, just like Rossi. Let's not kid ourselves and think otherwise. Nothing Flood does could be considered progressive.

Riley was an absolute stud as an OC at ECU..had one of, if not the best/highest powered offenses in college football. McDaniels isn't even in same stratosphere.

McDaniels is making $400k, he is not that cheep.
 
If you guys believe in giving second chances there are several Head Coaches out there that would get us to the next level. Keep in mind that you need to factor in their assistants as well.
 
Vk----fyi- on multiple occasions in the past lincoln riley let it be known that he was interested in the RU oc gig. However flood never at least called.

Some people are just the way they are and myopic
While I'm not saying that isn't true let's look at context a bit. A 29 year old Riley(with 1 year) wasn't getting the job over Prince. Same goes for Fridge and even if he reached out last year you think he was turning down Oklahoma?
 
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Rhule I can certainly understand. Frost and Anderson would not have a clue as to how to connect with many people in this part of the country. You have to get the right fit and NJ/NY isn't for everyone. Rhule is a northeast guy and has established recruiting ties in the tri state area.
 
Frost would connect by simply talking football. Who wouldn't want to talk spread-option football with someone from Oregon, that's been coached by Tom Osborn, Bill Parcell and Coached with Chip Kelly? Lincoln is my cousins close friend and Frost and I have mutual friends. I've brought Rutgers up to Scott. I know this is a job he'd like.
 
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A big reason is...RU isn't Oregon. RU does not have the type of athletes Oregon has and probably will never have that. The roster isn't built for a spread option attack at all. There is no problem with RU's philosophy , they need to be coached better, they need to be more disciplined and they need to want to block and tackle.
 
RU doesn't need to be Oregon right away with regards to athletes. There are athletes in this area and we can always reach into Florida for the 2nd tier recruits there like Grant and more like him. There would be a transition period regardless. Are TCU/Baylor/ASU and others like them names you expect to see performing how they have these last few years?

How many schools running a pro style have been performing above their perceived status in life on the college landscape? I think there's a reason so many schools are running some type of spread hurry-up (read option, air raid). It's the best opportunity as an equalizer against schools that will always recruit more talent then you ever could consistently. Never a guarantee and if it failed here, I would try again with a another guy, but to me it's the best avenue to overachieve our perceived status on the college landscape.
 
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When you invite 8 and 9 in the box with compact formations and a known desire to run the ball you will lose the "battle in the trenches". I think our problems on O are mostly scheme-based. We need to spread it out and get more deceptive.
 
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