2016 Wing Eugene Omoruyi Visits Tomorrow
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I can see the comparison to Draymond Green, if we're talking about HS senior Draymond Green.
Undersized power forward who needs to get in better shape, do damage from 17-feet in and develop a consistent jump shot.
Omoruyi would be a good late pick up that the staff could develop over four years. But I wouldn't expect a lot from him as a freshman.
Undersized power forward who needs to get in better shape, do damage from 17-feet in and develop a consistent jump shot.
Omoruyi would be a good late pick up that the staff could develop over four years. But I wouldn't expect a lot from him as a freshman.
We don't need him to do alot as a freshman. We need a kid that can give us a couple minutes a game and more in short stretches when people are banged up. We simply need depth.
It could be a big day for Rutgers basketball if we get both
Successful programs either a)bring in immense talent that stay one to two years, or b) bring in decent talent that can be developed over four years.
We have done neither. We do not need an impact player, but someone who can help on the defensive side, and grow into a 10 and 5 player down the line.
Thanks for your posting, Russ.
Our staff is working extremely hard.
I like this kid a lot. He would fill a role this season as a defensive anchor, and someone who is known to take a lot of charges. Coaches love to see that.
If we land him, I am a very happy fan.He does the dirty work with ease, and adds a bit offensively, and is versatile defensively.
Pikiell wants this cat, I am sure. He knows this year it is back to basics to get his wins, and compete harder. He takes charges, rebounds, and is a menace to attacking guards.
Jameel Warney?
Make a fan happy,Pikiell!Offer is out, start reeling! Throw some water on the reel.
Prop to our staff.
I like this kid a lot. He would fill a role this season as a defensive anchor, and someone who is known to take a lot of charges. Coaches love to see that.
If we land him, I am a very happy fan.He does the dirty work with ease, and adds a bit offensively, and is versatile defensively.
Pikiell wants this cat, I am sure. He knows this year it is back to basics to get his wins, and compete harder. He takes charges, rebounds, and is a menace to attacking guards.
Jameel Warney?
Make a fan happy,Pikiell!Offer is out, start reeling! Throw some water on the reel.
Prop to our staff.
Unfortunately, we are starting to fade with Alvarado. A strong summer has resulted in substantially more interest from more established programs. The key factor for us will be whether he wants to stay local. At this point neither St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova nor Syracuse have offered - nor do I expect them to offer. We are now a bit of a long shot, but the local factor is in our favor.
I'd take both. I don't think we ever been short a scholly when we needed one. Take Eugene for sure. New Brunswick is way more hip than Waco, so I'd take Chad too. 6'11" is huge in college these days.
I am confused by your post. If none of them have offered, why are we out of contention?
Wouldnt that be better for us?
247 has indy,seton hall,maimi,georgia tech..
With offers. Multiple sites say Seton hall have offered. Could you clear up your post perhaps?
Higgins - I did not state we are out of it for Alvarado. I noted we were fading. I also was quite clear that because none of the "locals" are pursuing Alvarado that is a positive factor for us if he desires to stay local. Hope that is more clear.
"His recruitment is picking up and it will be a dogfight to land the talented floor leader. The 6'0" point guard has an impressive offer list, including Indiana, Miami, VCU, Xavier, and Georgia Tech, in addition to local schools St. John's, Seton Hall, Iona, Fordham, Hofstra, and Rutgers, according to 247 sports. Alvarado is rated a 4-star recruit by ESPN and a 3-star recruit by Rivals, Scout, and 247 sports."
247 sports.
Have they stopped recrutiing him?Is that the issue?
According to Rivals SHU, SJU, and Syracuse all offered. You said none of them have offered, so are you saying you have inside info that those offers were retracted? In addition to what Higgins just posted there was also a recent (within the last few weeks) article about Syracuse reaching out and calling him and saying how much they loved his game. Your statement that these schools are "not even lightly recruiting" him is simply not factual.
Higgins - I know you are a serious follower of recruiting. Accordingly, I'm pretty certain you understand what a legitimate offer and legitimate interest is. I cannot state with certainty whether certain teams have "offered". Many kids either receive offers that are not legitimate and are simply expressing some level of interest. my original post was poorly phrased. I was focused upon legitimate interest rather than an "offer". To be more clear, there is no legitimate interest in Alvarado by any of the locals I mentioned - except for Rutgers. Let me also be clear on another point. That lack of interest is not a reflection upon Alvarado's talent. He is a very good player and would be an excellent addition for RU. As to the other locals they have either filled their spots at guard or consider others as much higher on their board.
Hope that clears things up.
RU23 - I know the Alvarado situation personally. You are of course free to believe what you have read elsewhere rather than me. All I can tell you is that none of the schools mentioned have any legitimate interest in Alvarado. Merely reaching out and staying in touch is what all good recruiters do. It is simply done with many kids in the unlikely event things go wrong with more legitimate options.
As I mentioned earlier, that is not a negative reflection on Alvarado. Moreover, it is a positive factor for RU as we are the only local option seriously pursuing him.
I have never been more confused on this site,lol.
"Unfortunately, we are starting to fade with Alvarado. A strong summer has resulted in substantially more interest from more established programs. The key factor for us will be whether he wants to stay local. At this point neither St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova nor Syracuse have offered - nor do I expect them to offer. We are now a bit of a long shot, but the local factor is in our favor."
Why would we fade, and now you say it is positive for Ru? I do not follow recruiting heavily. I follow RU recruits from time to time, especially if they seem like players who can change the course here. I will not ask for you to clear things up, as I am just getting more confused by each post, lol.
Working on a little something on Warney so I've been watching his early footage and going though the game stats, he could play from the beginning. Certainly developed and became more consistent with his effort as the years went on, but he dropped 8 and 11 (in 28 minutes) on UCONN his 5th game of his Freshman year...then a couple games later went for 17 and 4 (in 30 minutes) against Maryland.
What I'm getting at is the development was there, but it's more of an example of Pikiell and staff finding a player who was under-recruited/high majors got in on too late... rather than them making something spectacular from something mediocre.
Higgins - at this point I don't know how I can be any more clear. But I will try again.
What I said in my original post is that Alvarado's interest in RU is fading as he is picking up legitimate interest from a number of more established programs. Accordingly, he is more intrigued by those programs than RU. At the same time I pointed out that if he did decide to stay local rather than head to some of these higher profile programs that would be a positive for RU because we are the only local that is seriously pursuing him.
If you remain confused I do not know what to tell you.
Gotcha. Thank you for doing your work. Post the link when you finish it up.Thanks!
Sites say though that Seton hall, butler, rutgers were all over him. Reputable sites. So who are the more established programs?Indiana?They certainly are. Just does not make sense that you say these programs are just throwing out offers, when it is said on websites that they are seriously pursuing him.
I say we take both and Geo Baker.
Then turn the page and go hard for the Fab 5.....With 5 Juniors, we will have 5 spots open.
Then turn the page and go hard for the Fab 5.....With 5 Juniors, we will have 5 spots open.
I've maintained for weeks that RU will be there for Alvarado and it's essentially the best fit for his game and camous life as well. He's close enough to home, but not too close. SHU, Cuse and SJU all have already landed guards or are already involved with other kids. Dodger is in tune and just stating that other schools (not locally) may get involved here.
If he's local, RU is as likely as any school to land him and paired with Baker would be a very good start for 2017.....
I also think we can take both the 2016 kid and Baylor transfer and aggressively recruit for 2017 regardless....there is always attrition and departures whenever a new coach arrives, not because kids are being forced out, but it's the nature of what happens when other schools go through the process.
With Doorson, Diallo and Freeman all missing significant time last year, you need to pick up these two pieces, because they can help and you need depth that is not clogging your recruiting. Both of these targets do that, specifically the 2016 wing. He likely can defend first, which is what we need and I see Laurent splitting time between guard and Small Forward.
If he's local, RU is as likely as any school to land him and paired with Baker would be a very good start for 2017.....
I also think we can take both the 2016 kid and Baylor transfer and aggressively recruit for 2017 regardless....there is always attrition and departures whenever a new coach arrives, not because kids are being forced out, but it's the nature of what happens when other schools go through the process.
With Doorson, Diallo and Freeman all missing significant time last year, you need to pick up these two pieces, because they can help and you need depth that is not clogging your recruiting. Both of these targets do that, specifically the 2016 wing. He likely can defend first, which is what we need and I see Laurent splitting time between guard and Small Forward.
What happens if we land both and then Alvarado wants to commit next week? There's certainly a possibility that people leave, but you can't bank on it and give out more scholarships than you have.
Seems clear enough to me.....offers but just as plan B and C ....were legitimate...whats confusing? I know you closer to the hoops program than me but its clear what he's saying !?!
Roster management is a huge part of the job. A few years ago, Pitino at Louisville actually got scholarship players to give up their scholarships for new players, yet stay on the roster. Gave him a roster that exceeded the number of "scholarship" players allowed on a roster.
So we force players to give up their scholarship? I know there's a price to winning but I don't agree with that.
Scholarship limit will not be a problem. It never is. I don't disagree with what you're saying. This is something I used to think about this from year to year until I realized that every year we seem to be 1 or 2 under. If Alvarado commits next week, I'd be very pleased to have that problem.
Where have you been for the last 10 years? Lol..just because we haven't had enough kids wanting into the program for it to be an issue doesn't mean it's some dark art that cannot be spoken of.
I totally get that sentiment, I really do. I used to worry about scholarship numbers, and I still report on them, but they always have a way of working themselves out.
Kids transfer, (some are told they should transfer), kids enter the draft or sign with a team overseas. Kids get dismissed from the team. Some kids are smart enough to earn academic financial aid & create extra room for a new player.
At most schools scholarships are for one year and are renewable at the schools option.
Alvarado is still very much in play for RU.
Not saying anyone here is wrong, because that's pretty much impossible when you are talking about recruiting 2017 kids, but the info here is contrary to what ive been hearing.
Scholarships won't be a problem.
Not saying anyone here is wrong, because that's pretty much impossible when you are talking about recruiting 2017 kids, but the info here is contrary to what ive been hearing.
Scholarships won't be a problem.
That does not mean that the offers are commitable or that they are still pursuing him.
Having a hard enough time finding out who offered who and now have to figure out if the offers shown are commitable ones .:confused:
