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2025-26 Roster Discussion

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With the announcement that Rutgers will decline any postseason tournaments, the 2024-25 season is officially, officially over.

What might next year look like?

Known departures, by career minutes played at Rutgers:
1000 - Ace Bailey
945 - Dylan Harper
522 - Zach Martini
497 - Tyson Acuff
256 - PJ Hayes

That accounts for 49.3% of minutes played this season, so at maximum we'd be returning just 50.7% of minutes from this year.

Remaining players eligible for 2025-26, by career minutes played at Rutgers:
1291 - Jamichael Davis (2 seasons)
1074 - Jeremiah Williams (2 seasons)
670 - Lathan Sommerville
527 - Jordan Derkack
394 - Dylan Grant
386 - Emmanuel Ogbole (2 seasons)
78 - Bryce Dortch
0 - Chris Nwuli
0 - Lino Mark
0 - Gevonte Ware
0 - Kaden Powers

With the roster limit increasing to 15, that means we technically have 4 open scholarships right now provided no one leaves... but we have to assume that there will be at least one departure to the portal.

The question is how much attention (and NIL money) should be paid to retain talent vs. bringing in transfers. I know a lot of people want nearly a clean sweep of the roster, and to again roll into next year with only 2-3 guys who have ever suited up in scarlet. I've been pretty consistent in my feeling that Pike needs continuity for his defenses to work - he needs time to instill concepts, and he needs fully-versed guys on the floor making live corrections to their teammates.

This is my priority for retention for next year:
1. Lathan Sommerville - High upside on offense, plenty of room to improve on defense. Had a strong freshman year, and would benefit the most from a full offseason of S&C, film study, and defensive game reps. He has things that are hard to teach (FT%, post offense instincts) and needs to work on the areas of his game that can grow with more reps (defensive positioning, passing out of the post, overall decision making).

2. Jamichael Davis - Might be a controversial #2 pick, but he brings culture/defense carryover and can help the younger guards (Powers/Mark) and transfer guard(s) grow into their roles and understand Pike's concepts. His assist/turnover ratio improved a lot this year, as did his shooting - especially as the year went on. I think things are starting to fall into place for him, and think he'd be a captain as a junior and help to lend stability to what will almost certainly be a team dominated by newcomers.

3. Dylan Grant - Raw, but a lot of upside. Another guy like Sommerville who'd benefit from a full offseason of S&C, film study, and reps. There was a lot to like about his game, but he was inconsistent. More time with Pike and staff could see him getting significant minutes next year.

4. Emmanuel Ogbole - We're desperate for centers, and it's unlikely we'll be able to pull multiple serviceable centers from the portal. Ogbole is needed for post depth, but there are concerns about staying on the floor. He was really starting to round into form this year before his knee injury.

5. Jordan Derkack - The step up in competition was rough for Derkack, and he struggled to find his role - especially with Harper/Bailey on the floor. He had flashes, but was inconsistent - but I think he'd improve with a higher comfort level and more time at this level. I also love the chip on his shoulder, his ability to draw fouls, and how he gets under opposing players' skins.

6. Bryce Dortch - This was a tough call for me, between Dortch and Williams. Williams is the stronger product right now, but next year will be his last season and there isn't much more room for growth going into his 6th season out of high school. Dortch is very raw, moreso than Grant - but you can't teach size, and a growth year under Pike might pay dividends in 2026-27.

7. Jeremiah Williams - Good defender, but sloppy with the ball, can be foul prone, and is not great at the line. There's not much room for growth here - but he would help bring some consistency to a newcomer-led team next year. If he wants to return below his NIL value, great - but I wouldn't break the bank to keep him.

As for transfer portal, I think we need to prioritize getting a scoring guard (2/3) and a viable B1G center. 15 scholarships is a hedge against the rampant transfer portal activity - we can carry more guys, which will allow us to absorb more losses in the future. I really think Pike should try to maximize scholarships going forward - I know he says its hard to keep that many guys happy, but I think it's a foregone conclusion at this point that every year will see guys leave that you want to keep, so it would be helpful to have some other guys in the wings that don't see much-if-any court time (provided you don't have to pay too much for them - these might be the kids you take waivers on to see how they do).
 
Love this discussion, analysis and your take. Thanks. It would be helpful if we knew the budget, who’s available, if the revenue sharing will help us or just cause market inflation etc but we don’t. So sticking with what’s here Sommerville is the tricky one. He’s probably our best frosh, but his skills are more offensive and he’s not a rim protector. A rim protector seems to be the core of Pikes coaching philosophy. Myles. Cliff it allows the perimeter defenders to be more aggressive. So what does Lathan cost to retain. Then weigh that against getting a rim protector seems

Next I like Grant and Dortch exactly for that length and versatility. I didn’t see anything that said they weren’t coachable. Grant may need some money. Get it to him. Then JMike. Just shoot less from in the paint. He doesn’t have length but has hops and a good assist to TO ration. We can win with less offense if you play d, rebound and take care of the ball.

Beyond that I wouldn’t waste portal money and I wouldn’t overpay to retain. Well maybe a little for Grant.

Needs besides the rim protector, a long point and two versatile perimeter players all of whom enjoy defense. Most will say a shooter but the last 4-6 shooters we were told we have didn’t work out. Get the other pieces and hope a shooter emerges. Look at the percentage now of Miller at Oral Roberts.

Agree, assuming one leaves we have five spots. That’s four I’m suggesting. Get one more and fill the roster in hopes of emergence and retention of a diamond in the rough.
 
Love this discussion, analysis and your take. Thanks. It would be helpful if we knew the budget, who’s available, if the revenue sharing will help us or just cause market inflation etc but we don’t. So sticking with what’s here Sommerville is the tricky one. He’s probably our best frosh, but his skills are more offensive and he’s not a rim protector. A rim protector seems to be the core of Pikes coaching philosophy. Myles. Cliff it allows the perimeter defenders to be more aggressive. So what does Lathan cost to retain. Then weigh that against getting a rim protector seems

Next I like Grant and Dortch exactly for that length and versatility. I didn’t see anything that said they weren’t coachable. Grant may need some money. Get it to him. Then JMike. Just shoot less from in the paint. He doesn’t have length but has hops and a good assist to TO ration. We can win with less offense if you play d, rebound and take care of the ball.

Beyond that I wouldn’t waste portal money and I wouldn’t overpay to retain. Well maybe a little for Grant.

Needs besides the rim protector, a long point and two versatile perimeter players all of whom enjoy defense. Most will say a shooter but the last 4-6 shooters we were told we have didn’t work out. Get the other pieces and hope a shooter emerges. Look at the percentage now of Miller at Oral Roberts.

Agree, assuming one leaves we have five spots. That’s four I’m suggesting. Get one more and fill the roster in hopes of emergence and retention of a diamond in the rough.
Lathan if we can move him to the 4 and bring a true Center to protect the rim and rebound the ball. Leverage his offense hope he improves slightly on D and has a true big man cleaning things up for him at the 5.

Grant length and athleticism. Please shoot 500 to 1,000 jumpers a day all off season starting yesterday.

Dortch long and athletic but needs serious work on his hands, shooting etc.

JMike in a back up under 10 min a game role ok BUT Pike can’t help himself and will play him way too much which will cost us. He is not a Power 4 player. Love his intangibles but can not compete at this level. It’s hard to praise an assit to turnover ration when he has yet to average more then 1 assit a season in his career. Especially, after this year when he is passing to 2 NBA elite scorers. Definitely understand the teaching aspect to the kids coming in . The reality is he would be more suited to play and have success at a smaller school.

Jwill No!!!!! Can only score going right. Is not a PG! Bad w the ball can’t make FT and makes too many poor decisions. Is more a slasher at the 2 but does not move well off the ball and can not shoot.

Dercack in over his head but plays hard

Ogbole just a really nice young man and big but can’t help. Maybe 3rd emergency 5?
 
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I'm good with Sommerville returning but needs to be more unselfish, Grant (similar to Mag's game which we need at 4), Dortch (bench), and I am fine with Derkack (bench, as 7/8th player) but has to mature and embrace his role. Tries to do way too much, stop driving and trying for your shot, he can pass, so do that, and be an agitator off bench).

I'm in the camp I don't want Davis returning unless he is the first or second guard off bench. We are headed to 10 wins if he starts and plays most minutes as lead guard. He frustrated me to no end, with his head down trying to get his own when driving, D is overrated (can't stay in front of many people). I thought we left the Juel Wiggan days behind. He belongs in C-USA.

Maybe recency bias, but I don't want J Will back. I wasn't sure and the last the 2-3 games did it for me. He isn't an starter on a good team. He's like Geromino on MD.

We need to take Maryland's success in portal:
--recruit from much better non-power leagues, A-10, AAC, Missouri Valley, even C-USA or MAC. No Northeast or MAAC or similar.
--it would be good if at least 1 was from power conf--last one was J Young?
--recruit a legit scoring PG and at least 2 wings who have shown to shoot 3s and defend
--a 4/5 who can serve as backline

We can start Grant and Sommerville with new 1, 2 and 3. This is almost a complete remodel. Derkack, maybe Davis off bench. Ogbole can be depth.

I'm not relying on incoming freshmen.

But coaches have to change. What does Hayn bring--since he joined staff we've been below .500. But can we recruit an OC-minded coach and simplify the D. Can play strong D without taking years in system.

Pike has to embrace being comfortable with uncomfortable.
 
I'm good with Sommerville returning but needs to be more unselfish, Grant (similar to Mag's game which we need at 4), Dortch (bench), and I am fine with Derkack (bench, as 7/8th player) but has to mature and embrace his role. Tries to do way too much, stop driving and trying for your shot, he can pass, so do that, and be an agitator off bench).

I'm in the camp I don't want Davis returning unless he is the first or second guard off bench. We are headed to 10 wins if he starts and plays most minutes as lead guard. He frustrated me to no end, with his head down trying to get his own when driving, D is overrated (can't stay in front of many people). I thought we left the Juel Wiggan days behind. He belongs in C-USA.

Maybe recency bias, but I don't want J Will back. I wasn't sure and the last the 2-3 games did it for me. He isn't an starter on a good team. He's like Geromino on MD.

We need to take Maryland's success in portal:
--recruit from much better non-power leagues, A-10, AAC, Missouri Valley, even C-USA or MAC. No Northeast or MAAC or similar.
--it would be good if at least 1 was from power conf--last one was J Young?
--recruit a legit scoring PG and at least 2 wings who have shown to shoot 3s and defend
--a 4/5 who can serve as backline

We can start Grant and Sommerville with new 1, 2 and 3. This is almost a complete remodel. Derkack, maybe Davis off bench. Ogbole can be depth.

I'm not relying on incoming freshmen.

But coaches have to change. What does Hayn bring--since he joined staff we've been below .500. But can we recruit an OC-minded coach and simplify the D. Can play strong D without taking years in system.

Pike has to embrace being comfortable with uncomfortable.
Davis is far and away our most experienced player, and brings the most back in terms of being a floor leader/voice alongside Pike.

He improved a lot through the season, in a lot of areas. He drove into trees much less often and was more judicious with his shots as the season progressed, and he was much better protecting the ball this year than last year.

Take a look at Offensive Rating and eFG% trends in his bart page: https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?p=Jamichael+Davis&t=Rutgers

Pike has a few "old era" guys on his roster (Davis, Grant, Dortch) - who in times past would have seen spot minutes as a freshmen, bottom end of the rotation as a sophomore, then primary rotation minutes as juniors/seniors. I think Davis will have a better year next year than this year if he remains in Pike's system.
 
With the announcement that Rutgers will decline any postseason tournaments, the 2024-25 season is officially, officially over.

What might next year look like?

Known departures, by career minutes played at Rutgers:
1000 - Ace Bailey
945 - Dylan Harper
522 - Zach Martini
497 - Tyson Acuff
256 - PJ Hayes

That accounts for 49.3% of minutes played this season, so at maximum we'd be returning just 50.7% of minutes from this year.

Remaining players eligible for 2025-26, by career minutes played at Rutgers:
1291 - Jamichael Davis (2 seasons)
1074 - Jeremiah Williams (2 seasons)
670 - Lathan Sommerville
527 - Jordan Derkack
394 - Dylan Grant
386 - Emmanuel Ogbole (2 seasons)
78 - Bryce Dortch
0 - Chris Nwuli
0 - Lino Mark
0 - Gevonte Ware
0 - Kaden Powers

With the roster limit increasing to 15, that means we technically have 4 open scholarships right now provided no one leaves... but we have to assume that there will be at least one departure to the portal.

The question is how much attention (and NIL money) should be paid to retain talent vs. bringing in transfers. I know a lot of people want nearly a clean sweep of the roster, and to again roll into next year with only 2-3 guys who have ever suited up in scarlet. I've been pretty consistent in my feeling that Pike needs continuity for his defenses to work - he needs time to instill concepts, and he needs fully-versed guys on the floor making live corrections to their teammates.

This is my priority for retention for next year:
1. Lathan Sommerville - High upside on offense, plenty of room to improve on defense. Had a strong freshman year, and would benefit the most from a full offseason of S&C, film study, and defensive game reps. He has things that are hard to teach (FT%, post offense instincts) and needs to work on the areas of his game that can grow with more reps (defensive positioning, passing out of the post, overall decision making).

2. Jamichael Davis - Might be a controversial #2 pick, but he brings culture/defense carryover and can help the younger guards (Powers/Mark) and transfer guard(s) grow into their roles and understand Pike's concepts. His assist/turnover ratio improved a lot this year, as did his shooting - especially as the year went on. I think things are starting to fall into place for him, and think he'd be a captain as a junior and help to lend stability to what will almost certainly be a team dominated by newcomers.

3. Dylan Grant - Raw, but a lot of upside. Another guy like Sommerville who'd benefit from a full offseason of S&C, film study, and reps. There was a lot to like about his game, but he was inconsistent. More time with Pike and staff could see him getting significant minutes next year.

4. Emmanuel Ogbole - We're desperate for centers, and it's unlikely we'll be able to pull multiple serviceable centers from the portal. Ogbole is needed for post depth, but there are concerns about staying on the floor. He was really starting to round into form this year before his knee injury.

5. Jordan Derkack - The step up in competition was rough for Derkack, and he struggled to find his role - especially with Harper/Bailey on the floor. He had flashes, but was inconsistent - but I think he'd improve with a higher comfort level and more time at this level. I also love the chip on his shoulder, his ability to draw fouls, and how he gets under opposing players' skins.

6. Bryce Dortch - This was a tough call for me, between Dortch and Williams. Williams is the stronger product right now, but next year will be his last season and there isn't much more room for growth going into his 6th season out of high school. Dortch is very raw, moreso than Grant - but you can't teach size, and a growth year under Pike might pay dividends in 2026-27.

7. Jeremiah Williams - Good defender, but sloppy with the ball, can be foul prone, and is not great at the line. There's not much room for growth here - but he would help bring some consistency to a newcomer-led team next year. If he wants to return below his NIL value, great - but I wouldn't break the bank to keep him.

As for transfer portal, I think we need to prioritize getting a scoring guard (2/3) and a viable B1G center. 15 scholarships is a hedge against the rampant transfer portal activity - we can carry more guys, which will allow us to absorb more losses in the future. I really think Pike should try to maximize scholarships going forward - I know he says its hard to keep that many guys happy, but I think it's a foregone conclusion at this point that every year will see guys leave that you want to keep, so it would be helpful to have some other guys in the wings that don't see much-if-any court time (provided you don't have to pay too much for them - these might be the kids you take waivers on to see how they do).
This team was a joke. Cut everyone and start over. Including the HC.
 
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Lathan if we can move him to the 4 and bring a true Center to protect the rim and rebound the ball. Leverage his offense hope he improves slightly on D and has a true big man cleaning things up for him at the 5.

Grant length and athleticism. Please shoot 500 to 1,000 jumpers a day all off season starting yesterday.

Dortch long and athletic but needs serious work on his hands, shooting etc.

JMike in a back up under 10 min a game role ok BUT Pike can’t help himself and will play him way too much which will cost us. He is not a Power 4 player. Love his intangibles but can not compete at this level. It’s hard to praise an assit to turnover ration when he has yet to average more then 1 assit a season in his career. Especially, after this year when he is passing to 2 NBA elite scorers. Definitely understand the teaching aspect to the kids coming in . The reality is he would be more suited to play and have success at a smaller school.

Jwill No!!!!! Can only score going right. Is not a PG! Bad w the ball can’t make FT and makes too many poor decisions. Is more a slasher at the 2 but does not move well off the ball and can not shoot.

Dercack in over his head but plays hard

Ogbole just a really nice young man and big but can’t help. Maybe 3rd emergency 5?
I’m picking up what you’re putting down. I just don’t know if a non athletic 4 works in today’s game. Unless Lathan does some serious agility work. Also I’d rather Grant have 100 makes a day on his jumper rather than just shoot 500 shots.
 
This team was a joke. Cut everyone and start over. Including the HC.

I get the knee-jerk desire for "change" after the way this season went - but we aren't dropping Pike with the buyout he currently has (and no AD or President), and if we completely reboot the team next year, we won't get to double digit wins.
 
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honestly if we want to make our money go a little further we should only spend on 10 players. should only be playing an 8-man rotation anyway and then the other two guys should mostly be reserves in case of injury
 
Gotta keep Lathan hope his D improves
JMike, Grant, Dortch, Big E and hope his O improves
Jordan will return book it
 
honestly if we want to make our money go a little further we should only spend on 10 players. should only be playing an 8-man rotation anyway and then the other two guys should mostly be reserves in case of injury

This. But I’d argue you could carry more than 10 so long as they just received scholarships but no NIL (if those guys are out there).
 
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honestly if we want to make our money go a little further we should only spend on 10 players. should only be playing an 8-man rotation anyway and then the other two guys should mostly be reserves in case of injury
Going with 10 basically requires 100% hit rate on player evaluation. There are always games impacted by foul trouble and/or injury where you need to go down to your 9th or 10th man for meaningful minutes.

If you only have 10, you're taking a huge risk that you do not have any duds or significant injuries, and amplifying the impact of any departures after the season.
 
Going with 10 basically requires 100% hit rate on player evaluation. There are always games impacted by foul trouble and/or injury where you need to go down to your 9th or 10th man for meaningful minutes.

If you only have 10, you're taking a huge risk that you do not have any duds or significant injuries, and amplifying the impact of any departures after the season.

How many 11th-15th guys are going to make an impact if forced into action though?

Suppose we lost Ace or Dylan.
Would we really have been covered this season because we had Dortch and Hayes at the end of the bench?
Instead of even lower level players
 
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I get that money is a big part of the decision the players need to make as whether to stay or go. But , the vast majority of college basketball players are not going to the NBA and having the opportunity to play in the NCAA Tourney is a major goal. Many posters here question whether Pike in this era has what it takes to assemble a team and coach it to achieve that goal. If the current roster players also believe that Rutgers is not getting there over the next couple of years, they may very well decide to bolt to greener pastures.
The next month or so will be telling.
It also works the other way trying to get adequate talent in the transfer portal. Why transfer to RU where getting to the Tourney is a long shot?
Unfortunately, this season has damaged the RU brand.
I wish Pike all the luck in turning this around.
I think he dug a hole that looks like a very difficult one to climb out of.
 
I don’t care if they all leave but I’d focus on trying to keep Sommerville (if the cost isn’t too high) and Grant. I couldn’t care less about continuity when the team was terrible. We’ll be a bottom-feeder next year regardless. I’d be ok with taking Williams back and I truly hope JMike, Derkack and anyone else who’s left, leaves.
 
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Updating a bit....

Known departures, by career minutes played at Rutgers:
1074 - Jeremiah Williams (2 seasons)
1000 - Ace Bailey
945 - Dylan Harper
670 - Lathan Sommerville
527 - Jordan Derkack
522 - Zach Martini
497 - Tyson Acuff
256 - PJ Hayes

That accounts for 71.3% of minutes played this season, so at maximum we'd be returning just 28.7% of minutes from this year.

Remaining players eligible for 2025-26, by career minutes played at Rutgers:
1291 - Jamichael Davis (2 seasons)
394 - Dylan Grant
386 - Emmanuel Ogbole (2 seasons)
78 - Bryce Dortch
0 - Chris Nwuli
0 - Lino Mark
0 - Gevonte Ware
0 - Kaden Powers

With the roster limit increasing to 15, that means we have 7 open scholarships right now
 
Updating a bit....

Known departures, by career minutes played at Rutgers:
1074 - Jeremiah Williams (2 seasons)
1000 - Ace Bailey
945 - Dylan Harper
670 - Lathan Sommerville
527 - Jordan Derkack
522 - Zach Martini
497 - Tyson Acuff
256 - PJ Hayes

That accounts for 71.3% of minutes played this season, so at maximum we'd be returning just 28.7% of minutes from this year.

Remaining players eligible for 2025-26, by career minutes played at Rutgers:
1291 - Jamichael Davis (2 seasons)
394 - Dylan Grant
386 - Emmanuel Ogbole (2 seasons)
78 - Bryce Dortch
0 - Chris Nwuli
0 - Lino Mark
0 - Gevonte Ware
0 - Kaden Powers

With the roster limit increasing to 15, that means we have 7 open scholarships right now

Hope the freshman pan out because right now we need a PG, SG, Wing and a Big man to just field a starting lineup.

Then obviously depth
 
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