80 Second Shot Clock
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A lot more 2 minute unreleasables being called this year. Not sure whether it's more fouls or tighter calls.
It's tough. Literally any hit that touches the head is a call. They are trying to take the big hits out of the sport which they essentially have, but some of these I've seen are simply not penalties much less 2 minutes unreleaseable. Certainly 20 years ago they weren't even penalties, but things change.
20 years and farther back with the shoulders or forearm were "Great hit!". With the stick maybe a 1 minute crosscheck.
As a new fan, I like that if a team is up by a goal with a few minutes to go, doesn’t just give them the win by holding onto the ball. From the old games, seemed like if a team had even just a small lead into the 4th, made it really tough for the other team to come back.
So, it used to be a longer shot clock? Any thoughts on whether it will ultimately go to 60 seconds (15 to clear 45 to shoot) to make it more tv friendly or would that actually slow the game down due to more stoppages for possession changes?
There was no shot clock. But stalling was not as easy as you think. Then there was a stall warning which required you maintain possession inside the restraining lines in your offensive zone. With the full field I think 60 is too short.
The shot clock is a blessing ,will never look back. I like where it is at but if they had too you could shave 10 seconds off.
Georgetown was very patient today and used it brilliantly.
Georgetown was very patient today and used it brilliantly.
It all gets back to Princeton in the early to mid 90's. It was inevitable someone would come along and understand with no shot clock you could just grind teams down into submission by passing the ball around for minutes at a time.
For all of the winning Princeton did back then, they really set the game back. It didn't have to be that way towards the end. They had as much or more talent than anyone.
Remember Pete Carrill's Princeton teams? Dean Smith's 4-corners? In other words teams holding the ball until you fell asleep? Princeton's Bill Tierney's Princeton squads played the same way and others followed. "Borrrrring, borrrrring...."....the shot clock is good for the game!
The game was billed as the "fastest game on two feet" in the 70's and 80s. Then it came to a grinding halt. The World Games are currently still in that slow as molasses phase.
The shot clock is the best rule change in lax since the elimination of the horn and limiting to 4 long poles. It has put the game back in the hands of the athletes and brought back the two way middie, both extremely positive developments IMO.
And at that point they definitely had the talent. But Tierney didn't often run the score way up against inferior opponents. As I recall he wanted to keep Princeton under 20 in uncompetitive games because of what he dealt with his first year or two as head coach. Sometimes that meant late in the 4th he had freshman out there trying to maintain the stall. That could be educational for them.
Carrill almost put away Georgetown 1 year as the 16th seed in the opening round in March Madness. Different than the 4 corners which was pure stall.
Agree 100%. I love the shot clock. I think it’s perfect. Not too long and not too short and of course you can get a reset…
When I go watch high school games in Michigan I find myself looking for shot clocks…it’s now a hard game for me to watch without clocks…
So glad they added the shot clock…its helped the game exponentially IMO and historically speaking I’m still a lacrosse newbie…so to speak
Yeah, when I watch women's games, I feel like the 90-second shot clock is a bit too long. 80 seems just right.
Sign me up for a thumbs up vote. It seems to be working very well. Allows ample time to score and also helps the defense make a stand. Everyone has adapted to it and it keeps the game moving. Officials also seem in tune now and are able to spot malfunctions, which, fortunately do not occur often.
I’ve seen HS teams literally kill the better part of the 4th quarter and only possess the ball 2-3 tires. We were on the winning side both times and was even painful to watch but that’s the game for now. Hopefully not much longer.
Well aware (was watching that game while working at Charlie Brown's on Route 1 in "Princeton" at the time)and wasn't making a direct comparison to the 2. Could've worded it differently I guess.
@Emmitt Otterton now naming yourself after cartoon characters? How cute! What's next, men claiming to be chicks to win at female sports?
