Almost Twelve Years Since This Article

[Sir ScarletKnight]

http://www.si.com/vault/2003/08/25/...-to-get-out-of-the-big-time-football-business

What a change. It's a real window into the past. Some of you may have seen my posts about the marching band footage/audio I'm looking for. In my other portion of the class which I'm responsible for, I'm working on a section about Rutgers athletics. (Having done interviews with Mulcahy, Hermann, Dick Lloyd, Luicci, Flood, Jordan, etc.) Some of the footage I'm working with includes the faculty meeting directly after Schiano left when it looked like we were about to get stuck in the AAC. It's been quite a range for the football program since the turn of the century.

 

[RUnumber1]

Interesting. Thank you for posting. I wonder what Dowling would think now about Rutgers' Research Resources as part of the CIC? Rutgers is clearly a better ACADEMIC university today because in large part of our football program and its ATHLETIC success.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

He would refuse to admit that he was s wrong.

 

[jreinsdorf]

I remember that article like it was yesterday. Not too long after, I remember beating Michigan State thinking....finally!!! A week later the New Hampshire loss happened. Its a wild ride when you are an RU fan!!!

 

[RUhasarrived]

I still have my copy.Along with copies of the Star-Ledger after Buffanova.

 

[beaced]

Interesting. Thank you for posting. I wonder what Dowling would think now about Rutgers' Research Resources as part of the CIC? Rutgers is clearly a better ACADEMIC university today because in large part of our football program and its ATHLETIC success.

He lost me when he called football players morons.He seemed to be looking for a non existing utopia and that is surely not what this pragmatic world is about.

 

[Terry_2426]

I get the people who don't want the school to become athletics first, academics second but screw the people who openly root for the school's teams to lose

 

[LadyRU09]

Check out these two pieces of wonderful prose from 2002:
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/11/s...tgers-seems-stuck-in-a-vortex-of-failure.html
http://a.espncdn.com/ncf/s/2002/0910/1429745.html

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Check out these two pieces of wonderful prose from 2002:
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/11/s...tgers-seems-stuck-in-a-vortex-of-failure.html
http://a.espncdn.com/ncf/s/2002/0910/1429745.html

And that was when here was hope, it was way worst in the 1990's...

Rutgers had a few shining moments in the 1980's. Every once and awhile they would pull a huge upset.

Things of course were a lot better before then from the 1970's and before going back to the 1920's.

 

[RU Husky]

The article was written by a Rutgers alum, Michael Farber, Class of 1973.

Here's a short piece on him from the Rutgers Magazine. He is a well respected hockey writer who has been admitted to hockey hall of fame.
http://urwebsrv.rutgers.edu/magazine/archive1013/departments/winter-2012/scarlet-sports/rink-rat

I wonder what his view is now. Does he post here?

 

[TheRacRU]

Interesting. Thank you for posting. I wonder what Dowling would think now about Rutgers' Research Resources as part of the CIC? Rutgers is clearly a better ACADEMIC university today because in large part of our football program and its ATHLETIC success.

Would probably point to financials, and then claim that no matter how much we make from the Big Ten, it is a never ending arms race that will keep the department a financial disaster forever.

 

[derleider]

Would probably point to financials, and then claim that no matter how much we make from the Big Ten, it is a never ending arms race that will keep the department a financial disaster forever.

Which is actually probably true for the most part. We think we are going to be rolling in dough - but every single Big Ten team is getting a huge raise in a couple of years too. And they arent going to go all Apple and just sit on their pile of cash. We are going to spend alot of money just getting up to the current baseline across the department, while everyone else is going to be advancing the baseline.

The real issue is - there is no good middle ground.The only way you can win might actually be to not play at all, but once you start playing, the only real hope is to try to go big enough to basically break even eventually year over year (with no real hope of recouping your losses from the investment/pre-investment phase) and even then that only works if you are a school lke RU that has natural advantages as far as size and location.