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Anyone else worried about our offense next year?

I see people predicting we will go AT LEAST 8-5 this year with a bowl win?!?!?!
Are these people crazy or am I missing something?

We lost our 4 YEAR QB AND 3 OF 5 OFFENSIVE LINEMAN! This is the foundation of the offense. We have awesome skill players at WR and RB, BUT they can't showcase their skills if our QB and OL is crumbling.
 
The only way we can become a big time program is if we have the ability to insert non-starters and they have a higher quality at a younger age than we have had in the past. In theory if we're improving our recruiting, the next OL to step up should be ready.

Dorian Miller
Marcus Applefield
Nelson
JJ Denman
Ryan Brodie

I know theyre not freshman, but we need to have faith that our recruiting is improving and they will be able to fall in line and become a strong unit, alongside Muller and Lumpkin.

I don't think we miss a step this year on Offense mostly because of our depth at WR and RB, I'm also assuming here that Rettig wins the QB job and will have the best or a better first season as a starter for a QB than Savage or Teel.

The fact that Leonte Carroo comes back, Peele should be back hopefully at WR permanently unless depth at Safety/CB is an issue is a plus.
I'm expecting improved years from Grant, John Tsimis, and Andre Patton, Patton in particular showed a lot of potential.

And then depth at RB with experience. When's the last time we had 5 RBs who had multiple game experience on the squad. And the fact that they all have the ability to make plays on their own even if blocking isnt perfect is what stands out. our RB's vision/depth/speed are something we haven't had from the first guy to the last with that many players at the position.

Honestly on Offense if anything concern's me it's TE. But I'm hoping the truth Nakia Griffin might be able to come in and produce early like Kroft did. If not maybe we switch Vance Matthews or Scanlon to TE since they have the size. if not Arcidiacono or Lister will have to step up.

Really I think it'll come down to Rettig's play assuming he wins the job. If he has the ability to get the ball out quickly, that plus our run game I think will both give the O-line confidence and hopefully we just don't miss a step.

Sacks and turnovers will be the most indicating sign considering we did give up 33 sacks the whole year in our first season in the B1G and 35 turnovers. I think those numbers decrease this year though

and I hope we create more turnovers than we give up.

I'm looking forward to this year. Some change is good. But we return a lot of starters at the skill positions which IMO is more difficult to replace as well as in terms of actual game experience
 
1. Teams replace QB's and linemen all the time. Almost every team on our schedule loses many key players too. [/QUOTE]
Also, the fact that Nova started for 4 years doesnt mean anything because hes had to learn a new offense every year he was here anyway. It's not like we've had some age old classic offense that only he knows all the long kept secrets to.

2. If after 2013 season I told you we would go on to go 8-5 our first year in B1G would you call me crazy back then? Well we did.

3. Our replacements may not have that much game experience but they have talent and have had years to develop with our team, our system our coaches, and our program. Its not like they are being replaced by scrubs and freshmen. We have a fine OL coach and a great QB braintrust. I don't see much of reason why they wouldn't be ready in time.

Just because someone is new doesnt mean they will fail. Also did you factor in improvements on our talented skill position players? Embrace the change. Trust the staff.
 
Whether or not the offense should be worried about is going to depend on how effectively the OL blocks people. Last year's OL was the most experienced in the conference and was totally overmatched against the B1G's better D-lines. That has to change. What is lacking in experience has to be made up with physicality. You can't play smash mouth football without actually, you know, smashing mouths.
 
Here's the deal:

Rettig sounds like the man.

Remember that awesome 4 star OLine we recruited... oh yeah they are upperclasssman now

We had 2 freshman highly touted Rbs run wild in our bowl game... and welcome back a Paul James who pounds.

Recievers... first team all big ten Caroo. Patton. Grant was very nice.

And I'm sorry, lest we forget: LONGA upperclassman, HAMILTON upperclassman, PAUL JAMES (injury plagued) Senior... these were our best players 2 years ago and they are our new leaders.
 
We have unprovens and unknowns so of course there is reason for concern. Every college goes through this - bottom line we will have to wait and see.
 
Geez OP, calm down. Like many have said, ALL colleges go through transition of players, some even improve. I actually expect improvement. As stated we have some quality OLinemen coming into their respective own, and once they get used to playing together(by mid summer) you will see a very effective front five. Of course imho. We are stronger at RB, then last year(more options), stronger at WR(stability & experience), and Nova did have some good games last year, but got intimidated by teams like Penn State. A new fresh start at that position is a good thing.

So, am I worried about the Rutgers Offense. No, I worry about things within my family, food, oil, housing prices, National, and International politics, I worry about the pussyfication of America, killing of animals for sport, unwed mothers & nonexistent fathers. I worry about retirement funds, price of gold, stock market stability, middle east craziness, the funding of senseless programs in our National budget, military waste, social waste, the state of our educational system, unqualified teachers, the climate, my grandchildrens ability to cope with a changing society! Yes, I worry as we all do. But, I sure don't "worry" about RU's Offense. Just saying....
 
So, I was rescued from a deserted island today, after 7 months with no communication with the world- I realized we need to replace a QB and 3 OL at Rutgers...I better let everyone else know about this, it is important, I hope everyone is aware!!!!!!!
 
Originally posted by yesrutgers01:

So, I was rescued from a deserted island today, after 7 months with no communication with the world- I realized we need to replace a QB and 3 OL at Rutgers...I better let everyone else know about this, it is important, I hope everyone is aware!!!!!!!
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when is your book about survival coming out and when will you appear on oprah to tell your story?
 
The original poster is dead on, IMO

IMO...i think the defense will be significantly better...the lost pieces of experience are being replaced by bigger and better athletes

Our offense numbers weren't huge last year...and that has to get better. There are answers on the oline to replace but it is to me the
Biggest off season questiom

I think rettig will be fine:

Think season comes down to offense and the offense comes down the oline
 
I think rettig will get the job done, and I think McDaniels is too hungry to fail, if those two things occur...the RB's are very strong, the OL will surprise (but not me) because they are a solid group, nice depth was built there, my only concern are the receivers, we need a few guys to step up behind Carroo, at least two or three (including TE's), too many drops last year, that has to improve
 
Originally posted by jay_hq:


Originally posted by yesrutgers01:

So, I was rescued from a deserted island today, after 7 months with no communication with the world- I realized we need to replace a QB and 3 OL at Rutgers...I better let everyone else know about this, it is important, I hope everyone is aware!!!!!!!
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when is your book about survival coming out and when will you appear on oprah to tell your story?
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Right after my first book about how B1G the guys in the trenches have to be...
 
Originally posted by yesrutgers01:

So, I was rescued from a deserted island today, after 7 months with no communication with the world- I realized we need to replace a QB and 3 OL at Rutgers...I better let everyone else know about this, it is important, I hope everyone is aware!!!!!!!
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lol
 
RU should run the ball very well in at least 8 games,. I think our Defense is going to be very good this year. If Fettig is as good as we hope he is, 8-9'wins is possibility, and 6-7 wins very realistic. Less than 6!wins would be a big disappointment IMO.
 
That'll teach you for starting a football thread that isn't about how perfectly wonderful everything is. No criticism allowed for the Scarlet Nation. You will conform or be cast out.
Posted from Rivals Mobile
 
Worried about the o-line not so much as I worry about who the center will be and will he be as good as BB was at making the line calls that is our biggest weakness
The QB could be an improvement over a freshman/sophomore Nova on par with a Jr/Sr Nova
 
Originally posted by MikeRU1766:
Anyone else worried about our offense next year?

I see people predicting we will go AT LEAST 8-5 this year with a bowl win?!?!?!
Are these people crazy or am I missing something?

We lost our 4 YEAR QB AND 3 OF 5 OFFENSIVE LINEMAN! This is the foundation of the offense. We have awesome skill players at WR and RB, BUT they can't showcase their skills if our QB and OL is crumbling.
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To help you answer your own question go take a look at Rutgers' opponents to see what they have returning and that should answer some of your questions. Rutgers does have a ton of questions, but so do most or the opponents not named Ohio State.

Go look up these 4 B1G teams: Nebraska, Michigan, Penn St. and Maryland. I think based on the issues these teams face, Rutgers has as much of a shot to beat them or go no worst than 2-2 against them. 4-0 in non conference is very real. WSU is the biggest threat, but they may be worse than last year because the defense took a step back. WSU offense will be solid, but not at the level of last year with a new QB and no run game. Thrown in the top 2 receivers gone and a questionable OL again, it speaks to Rutgers having a good shot to win. Btw, WSU has been one of the worst road teams in college football over the last 5 years.
 
Trust me... I am rooting for Rutgers just as hard as anyone else out there. I will be the happiest person ever if Rettig or Laviano comes out and just tears up the BIG10.

But there is a serious amount of naivete' about what it take to play QB on a Division 1 level. Nova had been playing against 1st team defenses in practice as well as in games for 4 YEARS! That is 500+ practices + 50+ = 550 opportunities to adjust to the speed and ability of the 1st team defense as well as the speed of his 1st team offense.

How many practices has Rettig had against the 1st team defense on the D1 level? Its got to be less than 50 and probably way less.

So yeah anyway the whole point of this thread is to try to temper expectations this year so that people don't start saying "Fire Flood" or "Rutgers Sucks" or whatever silly overreactions will happen if we go 5-8 this year. We have a ton of unknowns for this team so we really could go 5-8 OR we could have another solid year and go 8-5 again.

And just for the record I LOVE RUTGERS. I am hoping for a 5-0 start so we can go into that Michigan State game at home and undefeated coming off a bye week!
 
There are legitimate questions for the offense. I don't pay that much attention to the star rankings of the players waiting in the wings. Why have more than a few of those 4 star OLs had limited impact in 3+ plus years? It takes time to develop OLs and it's also a difficult position to project from HS to college. Have no idea if Rettig will be a good college QB..RU's two best recent QBs were 2/3 star HS players and the 4 star guy did not pan out . I do think the defense has potential to be much improved. I like some of the young players that have been thrown into the fire and they should continue to develop.
 
Not only not worried, I think we are going to have one hell of an offense. We might give Ohio State a game here at our place. Rutgers football is a fantasy come true.
 
Bhaaahaa, what a joke! You guys won't come w/in 17 pts of Penn State, OSU, MSU, Whisky. Deal with it!


Oh and btw,last year was your one opportunity to beat Penn State for the next millinium!!!
 
Hey, look, we have a stalker. Go run back to BWI and hide behind your delusional mod like the punk you probably are.



Joe P.
 
Originally posted by cp4psu:
Bhaaahaa, what a joke! You guys won't come w/in 17 pts of Penn State, OSU, MSU, Whisky. Deal with it!


Oh and btw,last year was your one opportunity to beat Penn State for the next millinium!!!
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Can someone save this so we can gloat after the Penn State game?
 
Originally posted by MikeRU1766:
Trust me... I am rooting for Rutgers just as hard as anyone else out there. I will be the happiest person ever if Rettig or Laviano comes out and just tears up the BIG10.

But there is a serious amount of naivete' about what it take to play QB on a Division 1 level. Nova had been playing against 1st team defenses in practice as well as in games for 4 YEARS! That is 500+ practices + 50+ = 550 opportunities to adjust to the speed and ability of the 1st team defense as well as the speed of his 1st team offense.

How many practices has Rettig had against the 1st team defense on the D1 level? Its got to be less than 50 and probably way less.

So yeah anyway the whole point of this thread is to try to temper expectations this year so that people don't start saying "Fire Flood" or "Rutgers Sucks" or whatever silly overreactions will happen if we go 5-8 this year. We have a ton of unknowns for this team so we really could go 5-8 OR we could have another solid year and go 8-5 again.

And just for the record I LOVE RUTGERS. I am hoping for a 5-0 start so we can go into that Michigan State game at home and undefeated coming off a bye week!
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What a lot of posters do is they look at what Rutgers has or doesn't have and predict the future. Before you say 8-5 or 5-8, take the time to see what challenges every opponent faces. I think you may be surprised.
 
Originally posted by cp4psu:
Bhaaahaa, what a joke! You guys won't come w/in 17 pts of Penn State, OSU, MSU, Whisky. Deal with it!


Oh and btw,last year was your one opportunity to beat Penn State for the next millinium!!!
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What is a millinium?
 
KnightFan 7, I'm not sure what you were trying to say in your post?

But just to clarify I wasn't trying to make any predictions in this post about what Rutgers record will be.

This post was edited on 4/5 10:30 PM by MikeRU1766
 
But if our offensive line and QB play come together by the beginning of the season then I think there is a shot at starting 4-0. (Sorry for saying 5-0 in the OP, I should've only said 4-0)

Norfolk State and Kansas should be W's no matter how our QB and Offensive Line look just based on how good I much better I think our defense will be.

Washington State isn't a game where we will be favored in double digits, but it is a game where we will be favored to win and hopefully/most likely will come through with the W.

And then that leaves us with the Big One. We gotta go to that state to the West and grab a W. And boy will it be sweet to get some revenge and beat them at their place this time.

And if that all happens, then look at that.... Rutgers goes into it's Bye Week 4-0 with a home game against a hopefully ranked Michigan State team coming up!
 
Originally posted by MikeRU1766:
Trust me... I am rooting for Rutgers just as hard as anyone else out there. I will be the happiest person ever if Rettig or Laviano comes out and just tears up the BIG10.

But there is a serious amount of naivete' about what it take to play QB on a Division 1 level. Nova had been playing against 1st team defenses in practice as well as in games for 4 YEARS! That is 500+ practices + 50+ = 550 opportunities to adjust to the speed and ability of the 1st team defense as well as the speed of his 1st team offense.

How many practices has Rettig had against the 1st team defense on the D1 level? Its got to be less than 50 and probably way less.

So yeah anyway the whole point of this thread is to try to temper expectations this year so that people don't start saying "Fire Flood" or "Rutgers Sucks" or whatever silly overreactions will happen if we go 5-8 this year. We have a ton of unknowns for this team so we really could go 5-8 OR we could have another solid year and go 8-5 again.

And just for the record I LOVE RUTGERS. I am hoping for a 5-0 start so we can go into that Michigan State game at home and undefeated coming off a bye week!
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Yet dozens of guys do it every year.
 
"We have a ton of unknowns for this team so we really could go 5-8 OR we could have another solid year and go 8-5 again."

All I'm saying, and Doug said it in more detail, is you're looking only at RU. All teams have to replace players, all teams other than perhaps OSU have major questions. Didn't mean to rile you just you can't look at it as RU in a vacuum.

Anyway it's only April 5. Right now every team is undefeated.
 
Oh no I'm not riled up. Sorry if I came across that way I just truly wasn't exactly sure what you were saying in your post.

And yeah those 5-8 and 8-5 records weren't predictions. I threw those records out arbitrarily to represent a "bad" season and a "good" season.

I would absolutely agree with you that if someone if making actual predictions about Rutgers record you would be a fool to only look at Rutgers team while making those predictions. You obviously have to look at the teams they will be facing as well.
 
There is always optimism before every season which is good. But with the lose of a 4 yr qb and
three of five ol you can't predict another 8 win season. Yes the other teams are losing people but lets face it man to man they have BETTER players.
 
I am not concerned about the oline. Really only replacing two starters IIMO. I will be concerned if Rettig is not named the starter or at least separated himself by the end of the Spring.
 
I agree w op. Also consider our schedule. Our 'beatable' big games, are largely on the road - psu, michigan, Indiana. Psu and mich will also likely be better this year. Osu, and Wisconsin are almost sure fire losses. Msu is a team we could hang w in a couple years but just at a different level right now. Nebraska at home is a game I like but far far from a gimme. Even maryland will play us super close. I do think we take a step back this year record wise, but probably a step forward in the grand scheme of things.

My prediction 7-5
Wins:, Norfolk, Kansas, army, wsu
Toss ups: psu, Nebraska, Indiana, Maryland
Losses: msu, mich, osu, Wisconsin
 
We won't know for sure until the season starts.

8-5 is going to be even harder to do this year.
 
I am a little worried about the offense. We lose 3 OL, a TE, and a FB from last years team. Thats alot of blockers we need to replace.

However I have never been so excited about a defense before. You can argue the two of the three main pieces we lost, MLB and SS, we actually upgrade this year (although Snyder was playing injured all last year). And that third piece, the nose, we have been hearing geat things in camp so far. Boggs and Barnwell look like to be studs and we add what many call a lock down corner in Austin. Turay with a year more experience is a scary thought, and all we need is Hamilton to be the same and he is unstoppable. Ford may be awesome this year but he is a luxury we may not even have to have this year.

I still predict 8-5, but it is the defense that will carry this team.
 
We should know much more about our offense in two weeks from this Friday night.
 
Originally posted by RU#1fan:
We should know much more about our offense in two weeks from this Friday night.
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Not really. Both offense and defense will be very vanilla and most likely it will be the 1's & 2's versus the 3's & 4's.

There is not much you can take from the game. The second scrimmage would be a better test. There still is a lot of time until September.
 
Let's be honest, we haven't had a good offense in forever. We've had individual pieces that are good, and individual games where we looked dangerous. But we haven't been good in a long, long time. Last year we had an experienced OL and an experienced QB and we still didn't make it all the way to good. We should be worried about the O until we actually perform on the field.

I can see the reason for optimism, the RBs alone have the potential to be scary good but I can also see the reason for worry.
 
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