Won’t be long before the bowls are paying individual players to participate in the games so we get full strength teams.
B1G elites getting pushed around
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I wasn't comparing yardage stats. How about pulling another stat, # of first downs, how did we do against Temple on that one? Once again, if you think the Temple roster is only one or two players away from Rutgers you're nuts.
Way too many bowls. When you can't find enough teams at 6 wins, it says a lot.
Players are not going to get all fired up if they have had a disappointing season already and then be expected to play in a nothing bowl game in front of empty seats.
This is not the era of all-out team play. The NIL has turned it into "just me".
Players are not going to get all fired up if they have had a disappointing season already and then be expected to play in a nothing bowl game in front of empty seats.
This is not the era of all-out team play. The NIL has turned it into "just me".
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I’m not saying anything about anyone and adding players. That’s someone else’s discussion. I’m just objecting to laughing at the idea that we were playing Ohio State tight. That was not a fluke or a figment of anyone’s imagination. We ran for over 250 yards on them.
I am not arguing we didn't play a great game on that day, I am simply saying you can't take one game and say two teams' rosters are equal except for one or two players. There are upsets every year in college football, doesn't mean the rosters are equal.
How the hell did you get to Temple? The original discussion was a Rutgers vs OSU game and a Rutgers vs psu game and when did you think we were one or two players away from victory. Just those games on that day that's it.
First the argument was one or two players you changed the narrative to plays. Then it was players again and you changed the narrative to who has the better roster. Finally, the narrative changes to Temple and a comparative analysis to prove your argument. Now in your last post we're at rosters being equal. When none of these things had anything to do with your original question.
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He's still droning on about Temple? I've already stopped listening when I realized I was arguing with an unglued EDP
I got to Temple because a couple of you were cherry picking the OSU and PSU games making the argument that our roster was only two or three players away from those teams. My point was you can't pick individual games to judge a roster, it is over the course of a season. There will always be upsets and teams like Temple who hang in games in which their roster does not compare to their opponents. We had a good year in comparison to our recent history, unfortunately instead of celebrating that fact, some on this board have taken it to the extreme and are now arguing that we are one or two players away from being an elite program. Nonsensical and silly.
Nope. ESPN needs afternoon programming between Christmas and New Year's.
There are always upsets in college football, doesn't mean the rosters are close to being equal. Was App State's roster close to being equal to Michigan or how about when we lost to NH, was their roster one or two players away from ours?
If Auburn D executes on 4th and 31, they win.
What's down this year in the bIg Ten is overral QB play. The SEC has been able to recruit better overrall QB talent for the past several years.....
I’m against expanding the playoffs beyond 4 but maybe now the playoffs bowls will result in players participating.
Very close. Auburn vs Bama is Auburn’s biggest game every year.
Don't move the goal posts. You asked if anyone thought we were a player or two from winning the game, not from having an equivalent roster. That's never likely to occur
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Sure I mean we haven’t seen an opt out yet for the playoffs. It doesn’t mean it can’t happen in the future but I’d think the rate of opt outs would be much less with actual stakes on the line for a player and his teammates.
It’s always possible bowls in the future start paying players some fee to lower the rates of opt outs too. Ratings still seem solid this year so it might not be necessary either, who knows.
NIL helped Minnesota win their bowl game. Offered the QB some money to play in the bowl.
Pretty sure RU and GS should get EXTRA credit for keeping players with the program.
That Miami and other teams had their teams disintegrate seems like a problem they could have afforded with better leadership.
That Miami and other teams had their teams disintegrate seems like a problem they could have afforded with better leadership.
What is "ruined," exactly? Just curious. The fans are still having fun. The kids are still having fun. The TV #'s are still solid. So you don't get to see some stars and kids who think they can do better elsewhere?
The quality of some games, not all, dropped significantly.
They have become glorified scrimmages of backup players in many cases. At some point the public will become wise to the limitless greed of the NCAA.
But that's been the case for decades. Once ESPN decided to add 20 or so games, purely for TV purposes, it "watered down" things. Look at how many blowouts there have been in the BCS games since they began. Doesn't mean that bowl season has been "ruined," however, IMHO.
Of course, they count to their parents and families, I am sure they are loved dearly. However, people spending $s to travel to watch teams play in bowl games will eventually tire of watching scrimmages involving backups. There is a reason most spring games do not have great attendance, and you are likely to see more top players on the field at those games than for some teams at bowl games. Another case of ripping off the public, at some point the public wises up and stops paying for crap.
But the BCS games don't have depleted rosters. And with the early games neither team is Top 20; so there was a probability that the teams were relatively equal.
lol @ "another case of ripping off the public"....dear Lord...okay.
RU in the NIL era
- Football class ranked 37
- BBall ranked 2
- Return to bowl games and bowl wins
- Winning season
- Every major contributor returned
But we should be upset...because...um...FSU got pummelled by UGA or something
- Football class ranked 37
- BBall ranked 2
- Return to bowl games and bowl wins
- Winning season
- Every major contributor returned
But we should be upset...because...um...FSU got pummelled by UGA or something
great post
don't think people upset over fsu has anything to do with it. Love that we kept our key guys and now we just need one more to come in and we should be set
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People go to spring games that are totally meaningless.
A lot of fans aren’t going to stop watching bowls, because the games will be a way to see some of the guys who are stepping up into new roles next year, instead of simply being a reward to this year’s players for this year’s season.
