Obviously the one and done thing really bothers me. You are 100% correct right with Dylan. Yes, I should take more of a wait and see approach. I am an emotional fan just like most who post and obviously this has struck a nerve.
BTW Ace Hammin' It Up On Camera Against St. Peter's, Ha....
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I bet the tone of this thread would be different if we lost.
I appreciate the self reflection. Hopefully this allows you to tap the brakes on the errant speculation about two kids who are going to have a massive impact on this program and University this year.
At some point we will hit a bump in the road or worse. Then the SHU and Cuse fans and other assorted trolls will come out of the woodwork to speculate about all kinds of worst case scenarios. You don’t have to do their job for them.
If we didn't lose that game I would never think about Reiber every time I hear that song.
Imagine how he would have lost his mind watching Magic Johnson laughing and smiling and playing to the crowd on his run to the National Championship at Michigan State.
Ace shouldn't be joking around with a smile on his face when his team is down 7 points. If he doesn't understand that, someone should explain to him what a bad look that is.
As far as him communicating with his coach during a TO, I have no problem with that whatsoever.
As far as him communicating with his coach during a TO, I have no problem with that whatsoever.
So you felt the only way to handle that was to visit the forum and rub yourself the right way all over Ace and the rest of us?
What would Freud say about that, I wonder. 🧐
Ace shouldn't be joking around with a smile on his face when his team is down 7 points. If he doesn't understand that, someone should explain to him what a bad look that is.
Psychologically-speaking... as it effects the teammates... I'm not so sure I agree with the above. Down 7, if he looks stoic and or serious and or sad on the bench, WTF does that accomplish in regards to the mentality of the other teammates? On the flipside, if he is loose, having fun and putting out a vibe of "Chill y'all, we got this, I'm gonna be myself, everyone relax, we're gonna win this!" isn't that resonating more positive upbeat vibes to the guys who are actually playing in the game? I've often wondered that with football, too. You hear it all the time.. it's a game of momentum swings, emotion, etc. Well what if, when some bad things go down with a football team, the bench is miraculously still jumping up & down, excited, clapping hands, etc. JUST like the team that is having good things happen on the other side of the field? You never see it albeit maybe with a few players here & there... but if the entire sideline didn't act/look shellshocked or like a deer in headlights when... as Greg likes to say... there are "bombs going off all around them".. what could that do for the players actually out there? Hmmm. Makes you think.
Now if the game was in hand, and St. Peter's was actually gonna win it, and Ace pulled that stuff? Totally different. And would be a phuckin' awful look. But that wasn't the case. And doubtful he'd do that. He wants to win, just like everybody else. Those are his brothers out there on the court, remember that. Guaranteed in the short span of time he has spent with them, he'd call them that. Guaranteed.
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OK for Grant or Dortch during a timeout to waste a small amount of time during a timeout to give input to a future HOF coach?
There are assistant coaches.
Fictional Scenario from the other night:
Ace to Pike: "Hey coach, Dylan and I just made eye contact and he gave me a look like he needs a breather, but I think he's afraid to tell you guys, ha." Pike to Ace: "Thanks AB, I missed that, there's a lot goin' on. But we're gonna get him a breather next stoppage."
How about that scenario? Good with it? I know in the Bobby Knight days, even that exchange wouldn't fly. But it's two thousand freakin' twenty four. There are scenarios where It's OK for one of the athletes to have a small voice on the bench if the communication is appropriate, meaningful, beneficial, etc. And then after the game Pike to Dylan: "Hey Harp, if you need a breather, just let us know. We got you." Dylan smiles. "Thanks coach." And winks. Everybody hugs, lives happily ever after, including you @Greene Rice FIG 😅
Chalk it up as a learning moment? If this is the biggest thing we have to complain about I'll take it.
This was a TV timeout when Rutgers was up 49-46. Martini had just hit a three and St. Peters traveled on the next possession so I would say he had a reason to be excited.
Toto would have been forgivable had the team not suffered an embarrassing collapse that day
Didn’t Reiber move to D1 CLT?
This season should be incredibly enjoyable and exciting. Let's just enjoy it instead of nitpicking our superstar over an absolute nothing burger
You're already assuming Ace was wasting his time, which is highly debatable. And if Grant or Dortch saw something they thought was relevant enough to take five seconds to mention to Pike as he was waling past them, yes, it would be fine. The convo happened right in front of me and Pike was fine with it---the coaches, including Pike, can handle their business and relationships with the players. So if a "future HOF coach" wants to talk with a player, I trust it.
Speaking of nitpicking, pretty sure “nothingburger” is one word.
I liked this article from the NY Post last week, 2 quotes in particular.
“I don’t want any sugarcoating,” Bailey told The Post. “I don’t want anything handed to me nice. I want to work for it and earn it, and that’s what he’s making us do. I want it to be real and loyal.”
and
But Pikiell’s film sessions are no-holds-barred.
“Who wouldn’t want to be coached hard?” Harper said. “If someone is telling you stuff you want to hear all the time, how are you going to get better? We go to film sessions and he’s yelling at us, but we take it as he just wants us to be better. He wants to win like us.”
Regarding your take on Bailey talking to Pike during a huddle. I would rather have a player who's engaged in the game and wants to contribute any way he can. If Pike doesn't want the input, I'm sure he'll let him know.
As far as Bailey laughing and singing - I think that's who he is - a teenager who's is having fun and bringing a positive energy to the team. Maybe not a bad thing. As long as he plays hard when he's in the game.
Rutgers star freshmen embracing Steve Pikiell’s tough love: ‘Take the world by storm’
Everything about Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper is different than what Rutgers is used to except the way that they want to be coached.
nypost.com
On the surface, I would agree. But his teams tend to improve over the course of a season. When we play them, I expect them to try to drag us into a sluggish pace with limited possessions. Our guys can't get frustrated by that. I also expect our fans to get appropriately "tuned" up in the lots or in NB before the game so we jump on them like 2019. You have your assignment - don't disappoint me. 😄
I missed this. Thanks for sharing and good to see. Until I see otherwise, I believe these guys are committed to excelling at the highest level. You don't get there by having someone blow smoke up your butt and not help you correct mistakes.I liked this article from the NY Post last week, 2 quotes in particular.
“I don’t want any sugarcoating,” Bailey told The Post. “I don’t want anything handed to me nice. I want to work for it and earn it, and that’s what he’s making us do. I want it to be real and loyal.”
and
But Pikiell’s film sessions are no-holds-barred.
“Who wouldn’t want to be coached hard?” Harper said. “If someone is telling you stuff you want to hear all the time, how are you going to get better? We go to film sessions and he’s yelling at us, but we take it as he just wants us to be better. He wants to win like us.”
Regarding your take on Bailey talking to Pike during a huddle. I would rather have a player who's engaged in the game and wants to contribute any way he can. If Pike doesn't want the input, I'm sure he'll let him know.
As far as Bailey laughing and singing - I think that's who he is - a teenager who's is having fun and bringing a positive energy to the team. Maybe not a bad thing. As long as he plays hard when he's in the game.
Rutgers star freshmen embracing Steve Pikiell’s tough love: ‘Take the world by storm’
Everything about Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper is different than what Rutgers is used to except the way that they want to be coached.
2 words I want abolished from human existence
1. nothingburger or nothing burger
2. anywhoo
Is that what people mean when they say they bleed Scarlet?
There are certain political wonk expressions that get overused and die out eventually. I think nothing burger will be one of them. Kabuki Theater is an example of this as well. Anywhoo...let's get back to talking basketball.
