What I am saying is that Hobbs' only choice is to hire Schiano and he will be blamed in the event that Schiano fails or struggles to achieve what so many are capable of. That is why I referred to it as a no-win situation because his hand was forced.
Butch Jones out.
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What I am saying is that Hobbs' only choice is to hire Schiano and he will be blamed in the event that Schiano fails or struggles to achieve what so many are capable of. That is why I referred to it as a no-win situation because his hand was forced.
This is turning out to be a farce. Why hire a consultant, say you are conducting a “nationwide search,”
and then hire someone who never brought Rutgers to anymore than mediocre bowls and left five
days before LOI’s were due?
and then hire someone who never brought Rutgers to anymore than mediocre bowls and left five
days before LOI’s were due?
Unless he's really wanting the job, I'd resign and give the reason why publicly. You're the AD make the call that's why you're there. Yes boosters have influence and yes they should be closely involved but no the final call can't be theirs...it all goes bad that way. That's been part of the problem at FSU I was reading boosters getting too involved and no AD worth his salt willing to take the job or stay in the job.
Might as well make Brown or Towers the AD in that case....for all their financial contributions they deserve plenty of gratitude and involvement but the final call has to be the AD's. The AD has to have the backbone to pushback or leave or it's on his record too regardless of the pressure.
No fingers crossed. I was fine with Schiano 2.0 provided this was after a solid search. In my ignorant opinion, the only way a solid search was performed was if every employed head coach reacted with, "Rutgers? No thank you, not interested." when contacted by the search firm. Schiano and Jones could have been contacted directly by RU since neither had a current coaching position they needed to protect from scrutiny.
You might think it's funny but happens all the time. Both in corporate and academic searches.
I think what you’re really saying is you don’t like Schiano. So, just say it. You’re in the minority but you’re not alone.
Seriously! Some folks need to step away from the keyboard...I repeat, STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD!!!
Umm...Brown was intimately involved in the Ash hire. What else you got?
Makes sense....egos. Schiano didn't want to play 2nd fiddle to Steven Belichick at NE.
Jones is a big name coach whether you like him or not. He may have taken his name out because he does not want to be to be the guy no one wanted. I am sure he feels he can get a genuine offer for a good HC job somewhere once the positions come available after the season. This rebuild is going to a tough job, being the second choice that no one really wants probably makes it an impossible task. I absolutely understand his taking his name off the list. This way if the Schiano deal falls through he doesn’t have to refuse the offer and embarrass anyone.
If you know why he left please tell me. I certainly don't know. It's just reasonable to me that when Schiano let a kid he walk on as a long-snapper as a favor to a good friend he never dreamed he might have to work for that kid one day.....
To put waaaay too fine a point on this; Sciano leaves OSU for Tenn HC. There he finds out that he's toxic from his days at PSU. This may not be the case at all schools but he finds a new home at NE. But he leaves NE for whatever reason. What are his long-term options? He's 53 and at his peak HC years....he could go on for 20 years or more. Rutgers wants him and he would be a rock star here. I would give Schiano 5 years or more to get the facilities, staff, cache, momentum or whatever because I have confidence that if something isn't right he would understand the challenge and fix it. (Ash made me nervous from day one and was on a short leash). I expect that Rutgers would do it's part at its optimal speed (especially if he's gaining positive yardage). Where else will he find that today? Pump out a few pros again, go to a few bowls again. Do as well as some of the other teams are doing. Grow the pie....more for everyone.
Well I had been hearing rumors that he was coming back as coach dating into August (And the staff knew it). And also had to do with his accident at OSU.
But again just things I heard.
A lot of these whispers have been pretty spot on up to this point though.
No surprise. Not a lot of juice vs Schiano. No comparison. If this was before the ash hire ? Yes we would have jumped .
It wasn't just the fans who created this situation.
The donors did it.
The Star Ledger did it.
PJ Fleck did it.
The search firm did it.
The NJ high school coaches did it.
Rutgers football alumni did it.
Oh and did I mention the multi-million dollar donors did it.
Literally all of those people pointed to Schiano.
Honestly, I think if this deal goes through everyone deserves a round of applause because if we didn't I'd be terrified to see who we could end up with based on Hobbs judgement alone.
Also, if this happens and Schiano were to be a failure 5 years from now, I strongly disagree that Hobbs feet will be held to the fire over it. NO ONE is going to blame him for doing what literally everyone else said had to be done. Schiano is the safest career move Hobbs could ever make.
If you join premium on any of these sites you'd hear just how 'desirable' this job is. Hint, it's not. The candidate list after Schiano is not pretty, and even though I would've accepted Butch Jones he's not a very pretty hire either.
I will eat a RU football hat if Butch Jones becomes a HC at another school this off season. No way that's happening. We were the only school desperate enough to call him in.
His agent had to have told him he needs to take his name out of our opening now before he officially became 2nd place and it's already too late. He just got a lot less marketable than he already was.
We’re looking at no improvement and zero big ten wins I guess? That’s what screwed means to me.
If the recruiting article on the Round Table happens as they say, and we improve
dramatically by simply having better players on the field, will you acknowledge it?
When we start competing and games start going down to the 4th quarter, will you care?
care to say more about this article you speak of? (specific details not necessary.. ). btw i thought you were putting me on ignore a little over a week ago.. guess not huh?.. i feel loved
I can’t be specific, obviously.
I can only say it was a tremendously positive recruiting article based on interviews
you can pm me a little bit of this supposed positive recruiting .. as a man of my word i WON'T post it here or anywhere else for that matter.. cuz i'm curious as to why you have this "things are gonna be better" attitude
I love the stupidity of this line by Schiano haters and losers. He left on that day because he was offered one of the top 32 of his jobs in the world. Only smart people understand that.
Wouldn't that been worse when everyone found out he got the job 10 days earlier. Besides Rutgers didn't lose a commitment. But the crybabies keep bringing this up like it destroyed the class. It didn't.
i never brought that up as a reason not to hire him... i brought up the fact that with all the NFL talent he had, he still couldn't win a watered down BEast... and only a .500 coach... the B10 ain't gonna be friendly to him and that's why shenono is asking for so much cuz he knows he's gonna fail and he wants to milk RU for all they got
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