Can’t win consistently in BIG10 without three point shooters.
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One key next year will be an offense that takes a lot fewer 2-point jumpers. More at the rim, and more from 3 is what we need.
I think Pikiell just did an excellent experiment with Thiam: it's time to post him up more. He needs to put on more muscle in the off season. He's 6'10" for cripes sake. He needs to help out below and not just think he's a perimeter shooter. We need him inside and outside next year.
That's OK if you are taking 8-10 shots from 3 pt land, not 4 or 5. Plus if nobody else is hitting, it doesn't help as much. Even a 50% shooter taking 4 shots won't make enough of a difference.
Hey I said it was a start. The real issue is Sanders, Williams, and Freeman combining for 37-178, an insanely putrid 20.7%.
Yes, they're all bad, but Freeman gets open looks from straight on and still misses, horribly. Corey forces too many, some out of necessity with the clock running down. Williams is just inconsistent. Even the tv analysts run out of words.
To practice playing basketball every day and shoot as poorly as we do i feel like is almost hard to do. Looking at the stats its a minor miracle that Pike has led the team to 13 wins somehow.
On the road, Rutgers is dead last in 3pt% out of 351 D1 schools. Overall shooting percentage on the road - 350th next to last.
Overall for the season - 39.1% (344th) 30.1% from 3 point (341st)
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/stat/shooting-pct
On the road, Rutgers is dead last in 3pt% out of 351 D1 schools. Overall shooting percentage on the road - 350th next to last.
Overall for the season - 39.1% (344th) 30.1% from 3 point (341st)
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/stat/shooting-pct
I watch all the these teams we play just catch and shoot off screens and am jelaous. We are 3 extra 3 pointers away from being decent. Which means one shooter.
And that's why people say it's going to take 5+ years to truly turn this program around.
Should probably change the thread title to:
Can’t win consistently in CBB without three point shooters.
Can’t win consistently in CBB without three point shooters.
I think part of the problem is that we have no post players that can consistently score around the basket. That allows defenses to swarm our perimeter guys and make it very difficult to get clean looks from beyond the arc.
Of course, contributing to the absence of points from the post is the fact that our outside shooting is so poor that it allows teams to sag down and double team our post players on the rare occasions the ball is passed down low.
It’s a vicious cycle of offensive ineptitude.
Of course, contributing to the absence of points from the post is the fact that our outside shooting is so poor that it allows teams to sag down and double team our post players on the rare occasions the ball is passed down low.
It’s a vicious cycle of offensive ineptitude.
His are the most disturbing as he was recruited to be the shooter and they are almost always good wide open shots.
Why should fans believe any time period when its 27 years without one NCAA bid and 12 consecutive years with losing records?Percption matters and Rutgers isn't considered as a destination school by difference maker recruits right now.Complementary type players have filled the rosters and the losing has continued
It's especially hard to accept when you see the smaller Jersey schools finding kids that can shoot and we can't. Might have to sacrifice some defense for offensive guys, but Pike wouldn't be big on that idea.
Even if he only shoots 30% that's a big improvement over what Sanders, Freeman, and Williams have done this season.
Degaz,
I think your point is the most important point. Teams do not respect any of our big guys and keep coming further and further away from the basket. Most teams get way more open looks where the shooter can square his body and shoot. Granted, the shooters that we have are below standards also.
Best of Luck,
Groz
I think your point is the most important point. Teams do not respect any of our big guys and keep coming further and further away from the basket. Most teams get way more open looks where the shooter can square his body and shoot. Granted, the shooters that we have are below standards also.
Best of Luck,
Groz
I agree.
It especially doesnt help when we have a 7ft starter that gets 0 buckets and 1 REB vs Md
People keep saying "I cant wait till player a develops an elbow jumper."
Erase the jumper. Get better inside, or shoot a three point shot or floater. Players like Doucoure or Eugene Omoyuri should not be shooting jumpers.
Erase the jumper. Get better inside, or shoot a three point shot or floater. Players like Doucoure or Eugene Omoyuri should not be shooting jumpers.
The thing is Doucoure showed a nice 15 footer early on in the season. Idk what happened to him. It looks like he lost his confidence.
Personally, I still hate that shot for him, Omoyuri, and Freeman. It makes your offense softer than it should be, and keeps the other teams playing nice.
They are big players for a reason. They are supposed to offend opponents, and play inside. Get into the opponents head that they are outmatched, and they will be there for the rest of the game causing problems for them. If Doucoure has proper form, let him shot a three point shot. Only if he makes it above 35+ percent. If not, he should be getting better with his touch around the basket.
It's not really a cycle. It just means that we need scorers and shooters in every way you can define scorers and shooters.
Well, he'd better be a born shooter, since according to many on these boards, no one can ever get better at that skill through practice or coaching.
On another note, modern basketball offense has become "key or three", which means to be effective offensively, you need shooters and finishers. 10-15 foot midrange jump shots are now considered bad shots according the analytics. There are very few players playing in college or the NBA who are good midrange shooters. They become even worse shots when you have a roster full of players who combine the inability to shoot with the inability to create shots on their own.
I saw 4 wide open 3pt. shots during the Maryland game. Wide open to the point, like they were practicing in the gym alone. We missed all 4 badly. I was ready to throw the remote control through the TV after the 4th. I'm now convinced when RU does hit a shot it's by pure luck. Our guys have 0 skill at shooting the ball, it's all luck when they make one.
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Koleszar agree we had wide open shots but just cannot make them. I was watching Columbia vs Princeton and Columbia is knocking down 3’s from all over I don’t understand how we just have no one that can shoot!!
I like your thinking. We get off to a bad start, shooting and turnovers and fall behind. It's definitely luck and it's like our shooting, ALL BAD.
Exactly the case. When you can't hit jumpers and also can't create a way to get to the basket, it's a double whammy. Every other B1G team have those components or can get by with 4 of the guys having those skills and maybe the 5th guy can just pass and shoot a little. Don't think our present group of bigs are going to attain those skills anytime soon. They rarely drive to the basket from the wings when it's wide open and have a hard time adjusting their shots while in the air or when a few defenders drop back.
Maybe that changes if the new guys can knock down shots.
