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Carino: Steve Pikiell on Rutgers' roster construction, schedule, leadership and summer workout plan

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Great story:

"He pledged to learn from the chaos of 2023, when much of the roster remained in flux deep into the summer. .....And he focused on mining the transfer portal for experience, shooting and team-oriented attitudes to aid a blockbuster incoming freshman class."

On free-throws:

"You always think as a coach you can fix some of those things, but I’d really like to take an 85 percent guy like Tyson Acuff and make him 90, not take a 50 percent guy and make him 60.”

The CENTER of attention:

"“People talk about our center position (after losing Cliff Omoruyi to Alabama, Rutgers did not pull a center from the portal – a popular discussion topic among fans). Let me tell you: Our center position will be the most versatile it’s ever been."

 
I like these quotes

"When his assistant coaches came to him with portal recommendations, Pikiell said, “my first question was, ‘Can the guy make free throws?’ If the answer was no, we moved on. That was where we started.”

"The other requisite, Pikiell said, was a willingness to play in the team concept. If a portal prospect harped on how many shots or minutes they would get, Pikiell crossed them off the list.

Martini as the 3rd center, 6'7 235lbs?

"We have a big guy in Emmanuel who can block shots, and now he’s healthy and with an offseason people will see how good he’s become. Lathan Sommerville can shoot and pass – we haven’t had that at the five spot. Martini gives us a versatility – he shoots and passes and makes free throws.

Like this too

Enter Martini and Williams.

“Zach and Jeremiah, those two will be my leaders,” Pikiell said. “They’ve met with me about different things they want to implement. Jeremiah has reached out to all the younger guys. And from the first phone call we had, Zach talked about leadership. Most kids want to talk about: what are you going to do for me, what am I going to get, how many minutes? He said, ‘Coach, I can be a really good leader.’”
 
The desire to improve the team's FT shooting is mentioned several times but nothing about emphasizing 3 pt shooting. He can try to spin the center situation anyway he wants but I am sure he would have preferred to bring someone else in.
The article said that they looked for a center in the portal.
 
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Biggest takeaway....he puts Martini in the center bucket

3 guard lineup with Ace/Martini in the front court.


Also, I think the posts about JWill's decreased minutes (to accommodate Acuff, Derkack, JMike, Hayes) seem premature.

He played 27mpg coming off an injury and that article didn't make it sound like that would decrease, to me.
 
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3 guard lineup with Ace/Martini in the front court.


Also, I think the posts about JWill's decreased minutes (to accommodate Acuff, Derkack, JMike, Hayes) seem premature.

He played 27mpg coming off an injury and that article didn't make it sound like that would decrease, to me.
Weren’t you one of the most frequent posters predicting lower JWill usage along with seansherm?
 
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Weren’t you one of the most frequent posters predicting lower JWill usage along with seansherm?

Not predicting. Advocating for it.

The more JWill has the ball, the less it's with Ace/Dylan.
And when the ball is with Ace/Dylan, JWill provides minimal spacing.
Defenses don't have to guard him off ball.

In which case, JWill seems to be just standing around on offense without providing much value other than letting more defenders clog the lane.

I think the "ball handling/creator" concerns are overblown while Dylan is on the court.

Ideally we don't actually want players (other than Ace/Dylan) "creating their own shot". That just means they are going iso while Ace/Dylan stand around.
 
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However, I easily see a situation with JWill, Dylan and Ace all playing nearly 30mpg with Acuff/Hayes (presumably our best wing shooters - with Martini) getting minimal time.
 
Martini will be your 5 for half the game, running a 5 out offense. Ogbole is a 10-12 Min a game type against bigger teams. Good coaches spin on the center position now offering versatility. But we have zero rim protection with Martini at the 5. Will rely on outscoring teams this season

Dylan, Acuff, Hayes, Ace, Martini
LFG! Bombs away!!

@Greene Rice FIG may need to start huffing oxygen! 😀

GIF by moodman
 
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Martini will be your 5 for half the game, running a 5 out offense. Ogbole is a 10-12 Min a game type against bigger teams. Good coaches spin on the center position now offering versatility. But we have zero rim protection with Martini at the 5. Will rely on outscoring teams this season
Ogbole going to play 20+ minutes unless he fouls out IMO.
 
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Weren’t you one of the most frequent posters predicting lower JWill usage along with seansherm?
You don't think JWill's usage will be lower than LY? I'd bet it will be.

Like hearing about him taking a leadership role, I didn't see that in him LY.
 
I like the comment about how much length/size we added in the portal. Last year we got away from the longer teams we'd had under Pike and were SMALL in the backcourt. Davis, Simpson, and Fernandes... all small guards/bodies. Positionless basketball does not work as well with too many small guys on the floor.
 
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It was a fine interview, and revealed a lot about Pikiell's thinking and strategizing.

I am still sticking with my current prediction on rotation and minutes. If anything, Pikiell's comments reinforce ... though I might tweak a little here and there.

From a different thread - but will tweak and add comments after Pike's interview:

Guard - 2 Spots and 80 minutes:

Starter: Harper
- 28 min ... Tweak: I know many are thinking he and Bailey play 30+ mpg, and maybe Williams also. I do not see it, not unless Acuff, Davis, Derkack and Hayes are mostly crap (like Fernandes and A. Williams)

Starter: J Williams - 23-25 min (he has shown a propensity with his intensity to pick up fouls - and you want him full intensity, so resting him is good) Tweak: As leader, that does not mean he gets more than 30 mpg ... with less riding on his shoulders, versus last season where they had less quality depth, he can play at the highest energy, give great defense and rebounding, drive to the basket and dish to Harper, Bailey, Martini, Hayes on the wing, etc. I still see less than 25 mpg for him, but an important 25 mpg.

Acuff - 18 - 20 min (volume and spark scorer off the bench - kind of like Hyatt, but at Guard - not a great defender)

J. Davis - 10-12 min (defensive specialist and pure PG ... the best defender on the team, IMO, rivalling McConnell in defensive potential, albeit 6'2" not 6'7" ... with that defense HAS to have a role). Tweak: Still probably not more than 12 mpg - unless his offense (meaning outside shot) really takes a step forward, but just because minutes are needed for Acuff and Derkack off the bench as well. Clearly Pikiell sees an important role for Davis, just not sure how he gets more than 12 mpg ... but he is not going to disappear either, based on Pike's comments.

Forward - 2 Spots and 80 minutes:

Starter: Bailey
- 28 min (some time at the "4" when RU plays smaller and faster and wants 3 guards or 2 guards and 2 wings). Tweak: See above tweak on Harper ... he gets more than 28 mpg if: a) The depth players are poor performers, and b) if he does not have foul issues ... but both those things need to happen, IMO.

Starter: Martini - 20 min (he is in the shoot the open 3 from the kick out or doubles on the perimeter ... may play a few spot minutes at Center in certain match ups, and if foul trouble requires). Tweak: Not much, maybe a couple more minutes off Pike's comments, but at Center, not at the cost of Hayes or Derkack. See below ... if 5 mpg planned at Center, then 17-19 at Forward ... that leave 53 to 55 mpg for reserves Hayes, Derkack and Grant

Hayes - 10-12 min (pure shooter, like Martini - will come in FOR Martini at times). Tweak: Too light on minutes?

Derkack - 15-18 min (not a great shooter, but a scorer, athletic and defensive player of the year in a weak conference as a Soph ... actually has some upside development because he is only a Junior ... way too turnover prone to be 1 of only 2 guards on the floor IMO)

Grant - Spot minutes (for toughness, rebounding, if foul trouble and need a stronger forward in besides Derkack or Hayes)

Tweak on Forward: My math was faulty in my original post! I had 28 mpg for Bailey, 20 mpg for Martini, 10-12 mpg for Hayes, 15-18 mpg for Derkack, spot mpg for Grant and nothing for Dortch. But that only adds up to 73 - 78 mpg plus Grant/Dortch ... in other words missing 2 - 7 mpg ... to be split amongst those players (Bailey, Martini, Hayes, Derkack, Grant, Dortch and even Acuff) .

Center - 1 Spot and 40 Minutes:

Starter - Ogbole
- 15 min (but only if shows improvement, in particular in hands- so he does not get so easily stripped or drop the ball - and in footwork so his fouls are reduced ... showed very good rebounding per minute, and best offensive rebounding per minute on the team last season, albeit in very limited minutes) ... at 15 mpg he might be able to average 3-4 ppg (mostly put backs or running the floor) and 5+ rpg, and decent post defense. Tweak: Maybe 12-15 mpg, not 15. Gonna stick with the 3-4 ppg and 5 rpg prediction.

Martini - spot minutes. Tweak: Maybe more than "spot" minutes - maybe planned minutes in specific rotations, against specific match-ups, plus when Sommerville and Ogbole both have foul trouble. Maybe 5 mpg planned?

Sommerville - 22 min (maybe more if can stay out of foul trouble ... more minutes than Ogbole, but off the bench ... some advantages coming off the bench to play fresh against other teams' starter, or against other team's back-up). Tweak: Gonna stay with this: The most minutes at center of any player, more than Ogbole, but not 25 MP.

UNKNOWN LAST PLAYER (Mikic?) - spot minutes or red shirt with emergency playing time.


I do not see a role for Dortch this season, even though he is supposedly a better prospect than Grant - he really is a WF, and described as Mag-like on Defense with more and better offensive skills coming into college than Mag ... potential starter or major contributor 2 years from now after Bailey is gone ... my speculation is he would be better off red-shirting, but I have zero inside information or knowledge that RU has any intent to do so.

Just my 2 cents.
 
You must have better eye sight than me
I saw it. Before J. Williams became eligible, the team communicated very poorly with each other on offense and defense and no one talked to each other on the court. JWill completely changed that, and was visibly communicative with his teammates on the court.
 
You don't think JWill's usage will be lower than LY? I'd bet it will be.

Like hearing about him taking a leadership role, I didn't see that in him LY.
By usage, I meant playing time, as Steve will continue to use him on the court.
 
Ogbole going to play 20+ minutes unless he fouls out IMO.

Your laughing RU4life, but Pike’s commentary on Sommerville sure doesn’t sound like his current view is Somerville is this stud center who is going to blow everyone away. Did you read his quote in the Carino article? He speaks about Ogbole, Sommerville and Martini back to back. Describes Martini exactly the same skill set as Lathan. And earlier was quoted saying Martini and J Will are his veteran leaders.
 
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Your laughing RU4life, but Pike’s commentary on Sommerville sure doesn’t sound like his current view is Somerville is this stud center who is going to blow everyone away. Did you read his quote in the Carino article? He speaks about Ogbole, Sommerville and Martini back to back. Describes Martini exactly the same skill set as Lathan. And earlier was quoted saying Martini and J Will are his veteran leaders.
What Pike says in the preseason and what actually happens can be two different animals. He's talked up other players in the past including last year and it didn't quite pan out. Moral of the story: he's always overly optimistic in the preseason.
 
What Pike says in the preseason and what actually happens can be two different animals. He's talked up other players in the past including last year and it didn't quite pan out. Moral of the story: he's always overly optimistic in the preseason.

I was kind of hoping HC Pike would throw out a Chol quote just for old times sake.

"You can't expect to replace Chol's outside shooting with 1 person. But we brought in a couple guys who, together, can fill the role."
 
What Pike says in the preseason and what actually happens can be two different animals. He's talked up other players in the past including last year and it didn't quite pan out. Moral of the story: he's always overly optimistic in the preseason.

I completely agree. I’ll never again buy the Kool Aide after “far and away best team ever” needed OT for Lehigh and couldn’t get past Lafayette or UMass.

What’s telling though is that he’s not really talking up Sommerville. Wouldn’t you think he’d be going out of his way to do that if the explanation for not recruiting another center is that he’s just too good to take the chance of him walking out the door?
 
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I saw it. Before J. Williams became eligible, the team communicated very poorly with each other on offense and defense and no one talked to each other on the court. JWill completely changed that, and was visibly communicative with his teammates on the court.
I thought he was that way for the first few games, but it went away when things started to go bad, which was a red flag to me. Glad he's showing signs of what he's capable of.
 
What Pike says in the preseason and what actually happens can be two different animals. He's talked up other players in the past including last year and it didn't quite pan out. Moral of the story: he's always overly optimistic in the preseason.
Agreed, there is a term called coachspeak but we should just use the term Pikespeak. He is overly positive in his descriptions which we in turn make predictions from. Pike makes it sound like Martini will excel at center. The reality could be entirely different, just like how last year’s team was an 80 point a game team and we had no one who could shoot the ball as it turns out in reality. Maybe Martini can play in the middle and hold his own, but I’ll wait to see it with my own eyes as opposed to hearing it with my own ears from Pike.
 
I completely agree. I’ll never again buy the Kool Aide after “far and away best team ever” needed OT for Lehigh and couldn’t get past Lafayette or UMass.

What’s telling though is that he’s not really talking up. Wouldn’t you think he’d be going out of his way to do that if the explanation for not recruiting another center is that he’s just too good to take the chance of him walking out the door?
I think you are reading too much into his comments on Somerville. I still think that situation is a load of crap. If there had been an agreement between Steve and Lathan during his recruiting, Steve would not have reached out to multiple centers in the portal. He would not pull a Flood, he is honest to a fault when it comes to promises.
 
I think you are reading too much into his comments on Somerville. I still think that situation is a load of crap. If there had been an agreement between Steve and Lathan during his recruiting, Steve would not have reached out to multiple centers in the portal. He would not pull a Flood, he is honest to a fault when it comes to promises.
I’m not reading into any comment. I don’t have premium. I didn’t see what was said.

I am saying there is no context where it makes sense for it to be true unless Pike is convinced this kid is an instant lottery pick star that he couldn’t pass up. And the Carino interview leads me to believe that’s doubtful
 
I’m not reading into any comment. I don’t have premium. I didn’t see what was said.

I am saying there is no context where it makes sense for it to be true unless Pike is convinced this kid is an instant lottery pick star that he couldn’t pass up. And the Carino interview leads me to believe that’s doubtful
You did say his comments were telling, that is reading into them. I know you do not buy the whole Lathan prevented him from offering.
 
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