Chris Ash Post Game Press Conference
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must be the offense talking first..nothing there
If only the game ended as quickly as that press conference. I feel really bad for the whole program. Ash just had the aura of "What the hell did I get myself into?"
He's a hc, doesn't want to lose big but, I think the guy showed class, disappointment and some anger because his team was over whelmed. It's going to take time, people are angry @ Mi but welcome to the Big Ten. People judge a season on wins and losses and if they beat Michigan. We, including JH realize this.
I can feel Ash's frustration and anger. It's a good thing though. The guy is supposedly a workaholic, much like schiano. He'll sit down tonight and think about where the program is and what he needs to succeed. Recruiting relationships will be key in this class though. He holds onto to this class, there's a hell of a lot to be hopeful for. Anything that comes across clearly over the last 2 weeks is that we need speed.
The one thing I think Ash needs to sell in these press conferences though is the vision. remember schiano in 2001? He would speak after a blowout loss and communicate a vision that was so optimistic that you'd forget about the blowout. I'm sure he's delivering that message to recruits but he's got to get it out there. I think he's definitely the right guy. He needs his players though.
The post game conference epitomizes the phrase: "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."
I hope Coach Ash can take a little break and relax, he seems like a person who beats himself up about a poor performance. That can take a toll on his health. It was the #4 team, an upset was unlikely. Our play maker is out for the year.
"Out depth is getting tested right now...WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF DEPTH....AT A # OF POSITIONS"
He's no fool.
He's no fool.
He knew last year what RU had. He's banking on future recruiting and not what he inherited. Meyer knew what RU had and didn't. Meyer told Ash future recruiting was key to RU job. They know the recruits are in area but have to land them.
Look at OL recruiting list for 2013. There's one guy listed - 3 star Dorian Miller 6'2" 295. How do you expect to play OSU, MSU, MU etc recruiting one guy? Think Ash didn't know he was inheriting a box of nothing much?
"no, nothing surprised me..."
...about the rebuilding job he needs to do here.
...about the rebuilding job he needs to do here.
Yeah - I thought that was a very telling quote from that conference. Somebody needs to bump thread to show all of the washouts/departures we have had from the last couple of recruiting classes. A chunk of those kids should be in our 2 deep right now or at least contributing on specials. We have too many true freshman and walk-ons in the 2 deep and on specials right now.
Our ST's are soooooo bad. I mean....disgustingly bad....that's what happens when you don't have enough QUALITY athletes in your system.
I agree. No excuses, no BS, no hesitation in his responses.
When Ash took this job he was aware what the deal was in terms of the talent we had, (or more to the point, didn't have). Right now he's trying to use the ingredients he inherited to make chicken soup out of chicken sh!t and that's no simple task. (And having 3 of your first 6 games be against teams ranked in the top 5 sure hasn't made things any easier.)
Right, he was DC preparing against Rutgers for 3 years, two at OSU, one at Arky. He knew exactly what he had in Lav as he schemed against Lav last year.
The hardest thing to do is rebuild a team AND change the way it plays. Perhaps it's over ambitious but I suspect ash realizes that a rebuilt version of the team he inherited would never cut it in the big ten so he decided on a complete rebuild. This is different from the job schiano had. He took over a broken team but it was playing the same teams it had played for years. Ash on the other hand took over a team designed to play in a different conference.
Maybe if he would have come here right after being hired instead of hanging out in Ohio for weeks to coach a bowl game we could have flipped a handful of recruits in that first class and got some momentum going. Very reminiscent of Terry Shea's slow start when he decided to take a 2-week vacation after being hired. Both Schiano and Graber were able to land some nice recruits their first class despite being hired late like Ash.
"THE WHOLE THING IS ON ME. WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF GETTING THE TEAM READY. SIMPLE AS THAT."
What nice recruits did Schiano land in 2001? Can't remember one who contributed significantly whereas 2002 I can reel off a number of names off the top of my head (Moses, Tucker, Leonard, Hart, Beckford, etc). We get it...you didn't want Ash hired. And as far as Ash's "class zero" is concerned, I'd say Oden was a pretty nice/important pick up. You know, it's only the most important position on the field.
A press conference after a game like that is a very tough spot. I had no issues with how he handled it.
Ash will turn it around but it takes a few years. These are not his recruits. Selling playing time to new recruits is easy. The talent level just has to be severely upgraded and Ash is doing that. The sooner this is done then the sooner this will be over with. This season will be the toughest but it doesn't change where Ash will take this program which will be even a much higher level than Schiano achieved.
Look, you seem pretty anti-Ash, and we have two distinct camps on the board: (1) It's Flood's fault; (2) Coaching is the problem.
IMO, the problem lies somewhere between. We were never going to beat tOSU or UM.
I think keeping Oden out yesterday was smart. He could have been hurt yesterday.
We had some huge losses in Schiano's early years and he turned it around and we became a ranked team. Whatever Schiano did to keep recruits interested should be copied here.
Honestly, I loved Ash until he named him the starter. Saw this coming from a mile away. So far his major decisions on players and coaching hires have not been good. I'm pulling for him to succeed and hope he can doggie paddle until her gets more experience without continue to make us a national laughing stock.
How soon people forget. In 2001 we not only had the 61-0 loss to Miami followed up by the 50-0 loss to VT in back to back weeks, later in the season we had a 3-game stretch of 80-7 to WVU, 42-0 to Pitt and 38-7 to Boston College. Oh and we lost to Temple by 25.
I honestly think the worst is behind us for this 2016 edition. We may only win 1 or 2 more games tops but when all is said and done this season will look nothing like Schiano's first year outside of UW, OSU and UM who happen to be 3 of the top 5 teams in the country.
The worst is over, huh, ya think? Way to go out on a limb, 136-0 against over 2 games may not be topped for another century.
Well in 2001 the worst was NOT over after the Miami and VT back to back shutout losses is my point. Now if Illinois and Indiana do this to us yes I will be alarmed.
The top teams left the conference, and we beat up on the new comers and also-rans. That's how Schiano did it. I doubt we see a repeat in the Big Ten.
No. We will actually have to RAISE OUR LEVEL and not hope the pack falls back to us. Tough task and Ash may not be THE guy but I think in the very least he could be the guy before THE guy. Like Rip Engle at PSU or Schnellenberger at Louisville. He will get us trending in the right direction again and rebuild the program. That much I'm confident in.
Was just making a funny.
Seriously, though, although 136-0 isn't going to happen again, there will be a couple more 30+ losses. It's going to happen. But RU should be able to squeak out another win or two. Illinois is probably the best shot of the bunch.
I don't know whether Chris Ash can coach or not. I do know that the last guy was terrible and was saying it for years.
Going to be a rough ride and will require some patience. At this point you are probably looking for some progress on a year-to-year basis rather than a game-to-game. Going to take a few years to stabilize the talent base.
Will Ash be the guy? He's in a very tough spot for an inexperienced head coach. He may potentially be good, but he just may not have enough time to show that here. Best case is he can recruit and identify talent. That way after 3 years there is a base to work with whether Ash is here or not.
It will be hard to judge Ash on anything here this season. Next year - show some signs of progress. Next year after - show some more. 4th year you really need to be heading in the right direction.
It's going to be a long process and it might be more than 1 HC long. But if Ash is really, really good you will see that progress.
People severely underestimate the importance of selling the vision. They think it's just pie in the sky talk, but everything starts there. Establishing a vision, believing in it and becoming a cheerleader for it, is what sustains the mission through all the hard work and tough times it takes to achieve it. One thing I loved about Schiano is that he really seemed to understand that. You're right Ash needs to sell that to the public as well as recruits, because our own fan base can be more damaging than any negative recruiting he might face.
Yup. This administration needs to be selling this narrative 24/7. Before Schiano, detractors said we'd never go to a bowl, we'd never beat a ranked team, we'd never be ranked ourselves, etc...
Dammit! It CAN be done here. I can't believe how far the past four years have set us back.
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I was one of those who was upset with him not coming immediately..... Maybe, just maybe, we get one or two more quality players... No one knows, ir could be zero also
It still would not reverse what happened yesterday.
I recalled that Ash was told by other coaches that "Rutgers is a disaster"
"COLUMBUS, Ohio - Chris Ash didn’t sweet-talk his way into being the new Rutgers football coach.
If anything, Ash was the first date who is a little too blunt, taking an approach that left little middle ground between scaring off and charming his suitors.
“I told everybody that I met with, ‘You are inside at Rutgers, and it’s hard when you are there to listen to what the outside world is saying about you,’ ” Ash told Gannett New Jersey during an exclusive interview in his office.
“I’m an outsider coming in. I hear what other coaches or media or people say their perception is. The perception is it’s a disaster. Is that true? Some of it may be; some of it may not be. But anytime people are saying it’s a disaster, things have to be fixed.”
http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...erception-rutgers-football-disaster/77942734/
"COLUMBUS, Ohio - Chris Ash didn’t sweet-talk his way into being the new Rutgers football coach.
If anything, Ash was the first date who is a little too blunt, taking an approach that left little middle ground between scaring off and charming his suitors.
“I told everybody that I met with, ‘You are inside at Rutgers, and it’s hard when you are there to listen to what the outside world is saying about you,’ ” Ash told Gannett New Jersey during an exclusive interview in his office.
“I’m an outsider coming in. I hear what other coaches or media or people say their perception is. The perception is it’s a disaster. Is that true? Some of it may be; some of it may not be. But anytime people are saying it’s a disaster, things have to be fixed.”
http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...erception-rutgers-football-disaster/77942734/
Ash took it on the chin, as he should have. I feel bad for the players who played their hearts out, and just got a beating and injuries in return.
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