Coach Nails it 💯
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"It's a process and takes time. Can't expect instant results and gratification."
Until contract comes up.
He just signed an extension with a pay bump from $4.5m to $6m.
He was signed through 2025.
Why the rush for instant gratification and look for a salary increase so soon?
But sure, blame the players who might transfer.
Until contract comes up.
He just signed an extension with a pay bump from $4.5m to $6m.
He was signed through 2025.
Why the rush for instant gratification and look for a salary increase so soon?
But sure, blame the players who might transfer.
He put himself in that category and these guys are only doing what their colleagues are doing in this market. But you're right, coaches have always been the worst offenders. Look at Todd Graham's exit from Pitt as one of many exhibit As.
There's still a lot of truth to what he is saying on a macro level outside of athletics.
I was just about to say lol. It's another inexplicable AD move and contract.
WTH was he bumped up for....he hasn't done anything worthy of it from what I can tell. Grass seems plenty green for him or other coaches who move on to situations they perceive to be better. l have no issues with it, do what you think is best for you but same should be applied to players.
Drinkwitz' records
| 2020 | Missouri | 5–5 | 5–5 | 3rd (East) | Music City[n 1] | ||
| 2021 | Missouri | 6–7 | 3–5 | T-4th (East) | L Armed Forces | ||
| 2022 | Missouri | 5-6 | 2–5 | (East) |
And here are the records for the guy he replaced, Barry Odom.
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Thank you! People are so impatient. I've been saying Greg 2.0 year one doesn't really count..Last year and this year are the building blocks for the turn around. This team will be more established and better next year, because they are learning on the job. But there will be those who don't get it, and don't know Greg 1.0, how long it took, so, the pieces are starting be put in place. Even the portal...you have to have success on the field before kids want to transfer here who have elite talent. Chicken or the Egg syndrome. Growth happened this year for sure. Next year with Brown back and Gavin having established his place we will be a better offense team.
I personally didn’t look up his information,
i was more talking about the message in “Life’s general terms” which pretty much applies across the spectrum..
i was more talking about the message in “Life’s general terms” which pretty much applies across the spectrum..
That's just an assumption. Year 1 looked good on offense but looked worse the next 2 years compared to it. In actuality, the answer is we don't know. Maybe it's better, maybe it's the same, maybe it's worse. Same for the defense. We also don't operate in a vacuum. The teams around us can be better, same or worse. We don't know. All you can do is be hopeful but it's not a given.
I can go along with the message in general.
But coming from some of these coach's mouths, I can see it as trying to rationalize their performance or lack thereof.
take away guaranteed contracts and let's see the difference
Ash was probably saying the same thing in Year 3. Patience! But some coaches can have 10 years and they still won't succeed. At some point it's fair to start evaluating progress or lack thereof. As for players, some might jump too soon but they have a right to look out for their own interests the same as coaches.
Exactly they want to be rewarded with guaranteed contracts and extensions for minimal improvement, but then don't want to be held accountable when standards aren't met. If one of their players wasn't living up to standards they would be replaced and recruited over.
Not to mention, sometimes coaches might be wrong about a player. If a coach thinks a player will never be a starter and should be happy to be 3rd string but the player wants to start and goes off somewhere to make it happen they certainly should be allowed. Determination gets you very far in life. Some coaches might erroneously be content to waste a player's opportunity.
That is the old way of building a program. It all had to be built from within and developed. Now with the portal you may be building a roster that has the ability to move other places. I like the old way of developing players and a program, but you run the risk of developing players for some other roster.
As usual, great minds think alike. I review the previous coaches' records too.
Missouri has not been truly competitive since Pinkel retired for medical reasons. While not as bad, could be a post-Pelini Nebrask or post-Mangino Kansas situation to get back to winning ways.
The coach salary issue is a huge fly in the ointment for head coaches begging for fans to open their wallets for NIL. It takes a lot of hubris for a person making north of $1M/year (and in most cases more than $4M/year) to chide fans to "give more." An appropriate response is- how about you forego a couple/few million/year to fund your winning team? Yeah, that would not fly because of the rules. Being a fan is becoming less fun in this environment.
Coaches should have shirts that say "I need more time" on the front and "I need more money" on the back.
And found this on his extension:
""Coach Drinkwitz and his staff have created great momentum in our football program. You can feel the excitement and you see it in the fans as they have turned out in great numbers at Faurot Field. Coach Drinkwitz's program is a key part of the results-driven, championship culture that AD Reed-Francois is building to help support our student-athletes. Like so many of our fans, I am excited to see what the future holds for Mizzou Football."
Missouri went 5-5 in Drinkwitz's first year with the team before going 6-7 last year, including an appearance in the Armed Forces Bowl.
This year's squad has also struggled to get above .500, although it's shown impressive resilience with one-possession losses to Auburn, Georgia and Florida in consecutive weeks before earning back-to-back wins."
Seems like a low bar. Thankfully, we don't have that scenario at Rutgers. No extensions or raises anytime soon (hopefully).
players are renewed each year, maybe coaches should have the same
Interesting.. Mizzou needs a win to get back to a bowl game... they play Arkansas who is 6-5. Gonna be tough. Maybe SEC refs will toss em a bone or two.. get another bowl team.
I think certainly 3 year contracts should be the standard again for them. Rare is the coach who really needs to be signed for longer. Without a doubt some get too comfortable.
Only 2 years away
After 2025 its going to be:
- HC Schiano has really stabilized the program and ready to take the next step. We need to extend his contract and we need your help. Unfortunately, if donors dont step up, we won't be able to afford to keep HC Schiano and continue our forward progress.
- HC Schiano just hasn't gotten it done and we need to move on. Unfortunately, unless donors step up and pay the buyout we won't be able to take the necessary next steps.
Hate to say it, but if GS goes 6-6 next year, I think RU will give him an extension. Especially if he wins the bowl game.
Should that extension happen, it seems pretty clear that board meltdowns and exploding heads will be a widespread phenomenon ‘round here. 😀
Should that extension happen, it seems pretty clear that board meltdowns and exploding heads will be a widespread phenomenon ‘round here. 😀
Thanks for the life lesson, coach. But we're allowed to be frustrated by the lack of results... going on how many years now (save for a blip in the mid-2000s that were respectable at best)?
3 years is not overnight... and expecting to not get smashed by nearly everyone in our league at this point is not looking for instant gratification.
I'm not saying I'm giving up, but don't make me feel bad for being down on the way things are going.
3 years is not overnight... and expecting to not get smashed by nearly everyone in our league at this point is not looking for instant gratification.
I'm not saying I'm giving up, but don't make me feel bad for being down on the way things are going.
Long suffering fans should have shirts that say "I'm ducking fisgusted."
Hate to say it, but it will be astonishing if we get even close to 6 wins next season. Too many losses at WR, CB, S, and DT with no talent ready to step in. Add in QB instability and 4 wins will most likely be the upside.
