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College Hoops Notes - Food for Thought and Oddities

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So, some reflections on the very early, way too small sample size, of the college season so far:

1) Early season college basketball often has many oddities ... specifically, teams often struggle. The key for an NCAA bid down the road is to SURVIVE and somehow fund a way to win to avoid a bad loss. For all I know REU will struggle at some point and take a bad loss. So far, RU has struggled just a bit in 2 games, but won - especially vs St. Peter's (the game against Monmouth was never in doubt - so some 2nd half defensive struggles, but pulling away several times). The latest exhibit: Wisconsin, last night (and Wisconsin is having a heckuva a season, so far, no?). Wisconsin beat UT-Rio Grande Valley ... by 3 ... 87-84 ... after trailing by 52-48 at the half. UT-Rio Grande Valley is now 3-3: They beat 3 poor teams (well, 2 really poor teams and a who knows whether they are good team), and have now lost to 3 decent to very good teams (by 20 to Nebraska, by 13 to Creighton - though it was not really that close, and now by 3 to Wisconsin)

2) There are also stat and individual performance oddities ... too many to keep track of, of course. Here are a couple I found fascinating:

a) In Creighton's win over UT-Rio Grande, their star Kalkbrenner scored 49 points (pretty incredible) - but how he did it, and how Creighton won, was interesting. Kalkbrenner was a ridiculous 20-22 FG!!! and 7-8 FT. But though Creighton scored 99 points, they just had 3 players in double digits in points - 1 of whom had just 11 points ... Kalkbrenner had 49, and 1 other player had 25 points - and THAT oddity came with only 3 made FG's - and 17-17 FT!

b) Wisconsin's John Tonje - fascinating season so far ... really odd. First, this is his 6th season ... odd enough on its own. His best season ever was 2 seasons ago, for Colorado State, averaging 14.6 points per game ... previously he had averaged 6.6 ppg as a sophomore and 9.1 ppg as a Junior ... then played just 8 games for Missouri last year - averaging just 10 minutes per game. due to a foot injury pre-season and during the season. So, for one thing his scoring is ridiculously high (to his credit) so far this season, averaging 23 ppg ... and yes, he had a crazy 41 points against Arizona - but he also had 23 in the 1st game, and 13, 17 and 19 in his other games. What is also an oddity is HOW he is scoring: 41% of his total points are from the FT line (on 47-49 FT on the year - career 83.5% FT shooter). He got a crazy 22 FT attempts (made 21) versus Arizona ... but he also was 10-10 vs UT-Rio Grande, AND was 8-9 and 8-8 in 2 other games (0 FT attempts in 1 game). That is just really odd, I find.

If anyone has any other oddities, I love to see them - because this is definitely the silly season, with loads of strange, skewed, small sample-size stats.
 
Martinelli didn't know how to dribble a basketball for NW last year and is now averaging 25.3 PPG. I would have given Joey Gallo a better chance of hitting over .300 in 500 ABs.
 
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Martinelli didn't know how to dribble a basketball for NW last year and is now averaging 25.3 PPG. I would have given Joey Gallo a better chance of hitting over .300 in 500 ABs.
Interesting and odd on Martinelli.

LOL! As a baseball fan, and a fantasy baseball guy, love the Gallo reference: His stats are truly odd: As an FYI, there have been times in Gallo's career where he has actually had more HR's than SINGLES - which has never been done in major league history for a career. Through his 1st 4 seasons, he had more HR than singles in each season As is, he had more HR than singles through his 1st 5 seasons - and in 4 of his 1st 5 seasons ... in his full career, he has 208 HR and 232 singles - mainly because his HR rate dropped.
 
So, some reflections on the very early, way too small sample size, of the college season so far:

1) Early season college basketball often has many oddities ... specifically, teams often struggle. The key for an NCAA bid down the road is to SURVIVE and somehow fund a way to win to avoid a bad loss. For all I know REU will struggle at some point and take a bad loss. So far, RU has struggled just a bit in 2 games, but won - especially vs St. Peter's (the game against Monmouth was never in doubt - so some 2nd half defensive struggles, but pulling away several times). The latest exhibit: Wisconsin, last night (and Wisconsin is having a heckuva a season, so far, no?). Wisconsin beat UT-Rio Grande Valley ... by 3 ... 87-84 ... after trailing by 52-48 at the half. UT-Rio Grande Valley is now 3-3: They beat 3 poor teams (well, 2 really poor teams and a who knows whether they are good team), and have now lost to 3 decent to very good teams (by 20 to Nebraska, by 13 to Creighton - though it was not really that close, and now by 3 to Wisconsin)

2) There are also stat and individual performance oddities ... too many to keep track of, of course. Here are a couple I found fascinating:

a) In Creighton's win over UT-Rio Grande, their star Kalkbrenner scored 49 points (pretty incredible) - but how he did it, and how Creighton won, was interesting. Kalkbrenner was a ridiculous 20-22 FG!!! and 7-8 FT. But though Creighton scored 99 points, they just had 3 players in double digits in points - 1 of whom had just 11 points ... Kalkbrenner had 49, and 1 other player had 25 points - and THAT oddity came with only 3 made FG's - and 17-17 FT!

b) Wisconsin's John Tonje - fascinating season so far ... really odd. First, this is his 6th season ... odd enough on its own. His best season ever was 2 seasons ago, for Colorado State, averaging 14.6 points per game ... previously he had averaged 6.6 ppg as a sophomore and 9.1 ppg as a Junior ... then played just 8 games for Missouri last year - averaging just 10 minutes per game. due to a foot injury pre-season and during the season. So, for one thing his scoring is ridiculously high (to his credit) so far this season, averaging 23 ppg ... and yes, he had a crazy 41 points against Arizona - but he also had 23 in the 1st game, and 13, 17 and 19 in his other games. What is also an oddity is HOW he is scoring: 41% of his total points are from the FT line (on 47-49 FT on the year - career 83.5% FT shooter). He got a crazy 22 FT attempts (made 21) versus Arizona ... but he also was 10-10 vs UT-Rio Grande, AND was 8-9 and 8-8 in 2 other games (0 FT attempts in 1 game). That is just really odd, I find.

If anyone has any other oddities, I love to see them - because this is definitely the silly season, with loads of strange, skewed, small sample-size stats.
47-49 from FT for one player after 2 weeks of the season is ridiculou
 
So, some reflections on the very early, way too small sample size, of the college season so far:

1) Early season college basketball often has many oddities ... specifically, teams often struggle. The key for an NCAA bid down the road is to SURVIVE and somehow fund a way to win to avoid a bad loss. For all I know REU will struggle at some point and take a bad loss. So far, RU has struggled just a bit in 2 games, but won - especially vs St. Peter's (the game against Monmouth was never in doubt - so some 2nd half defensive struggles, but pulling away several times). The latest exhibit: Wisconsin, last night (and Wisconsin is having a heckuva a season, so far, no?). Wisconsin beat UT-Rio Grande Valley ... by 3 ... 87-84 ... after trailing by 52-48 at the half. UT-Rio Grande Valley is now 3-3: They beat 3 poor teams (well, 2 really poor teams and a who knows whether they are good team), and have now lost to 3 decent to very good teams (by 20 to Nebraska, by 13 to Creighton - though it was not really that close, and now by 3 to Wisconsin)

2) There are also stat and individual performance oddities ... too many to keep track of, of course. Here are a couple I found fascinating:

a) In Creighton's win over UT-Rio Grande, their star Kalkbrenner scored 49 points (pretty incredible) - but how he did it, and how Creighton won, was interesting. Kalkbrenner was a ridiculous 20-22 FG!!! and 7-8 FT. But though Creighton scored 99 points, they just had 3 players in double digits in points - 1 of whom had just 11 points ... Kalkbrenner had 49, and 1 other player had 25 points - and THAT oddity came with only 3 made FG's - and 17-17 FT!

b) Wisconsin's John Tonje - fascinating season so far ... really odd. First, this is his 6th season ... odd enough on its own. His best season ever was 2 seasons ago, for Colorado State, averaging 14.6 points per game ... previously he had averaged 6.6 ppg as a sophomore and 9.1 ppg as a Junior ... then played just 8 games for Missouri last year - averaging just 10 minutes per game. due to a foot injury pre-season and during the season. So, for one thing his scoring is ridiculously high (to his credit) so far this season, averaging 23 ppg ... and yes, he had a crazy 41 points against Arizona - but he also had 23 in the 1st game, and 13, 17 and 19 in his other games. What is also an oddity is HOW he is scoring: 41% of his total points are from the FT line (on 47-49 FT on the year - career 83.5% FT shooter). He got a crazy 22 FT attempts (made 21) versus Arizona ... but he also was 10-10 vs UT-Rio Grande, AND was 8-9 and 8-8 in 2 other games (0 FT attempts in 1 game). That is just really odd, I find.

If anyone has any other oddities, I love to see them - because this is definitely the silly season, with loads of strange, skewed, small sample-size stats.
47-49 from FT for one player after 2 weeks of the season is ridiculous .. Arizona fans were complaining about the refs on twitter, and I thought seeing they lost by 14 that they were just being whiney. But man, thats insane
 
So, some reflections on the very early, way too small sample size, of the college season so far:

1) Early season college basketball often has many oddities ... specifically, teams often struggle. The key for an NCAA bid down the road is to SURVIVE and somehow fund a way to win to avoid a bad loss. For all I know REU will struggle at some point and take a bad loss. So far, RU has struggled just a bit in 2 games, but won - especially vs St. Peter's (the game against Monmouth was never in doubt - so some 2nd half defensive struggles, but pulling away several times). The latest exhibit: Wisconsin, last night (and Wisconsin is having a heckuva a season, so far, no?). Wisconsin beat UT-Rio Grande Valley ... by 3 ... 87-84 ... after trailing by 52-48 at the half. UT-Rio Grande Valley is now 3-3: They beat 3 poor teams (well, 2 really poor teams and a who knows whether they are good team), and have now lost to 3 decent to very good teams (by 20 to Nebraska, by 13 to Creighton - though it was not really that close, and now by 3 to Wisconsin)

2) There are also stat and individual performance oddities ... too many to keep track of, of course. Here are a couple I found fascinating:

a) In Creighton's win over UT-Rio Grande, their star Kalkbrenner scored 49 points (pretty incredible) - but how he did it, and how Creighton won, was interesting. Kalkbrenner was a ridiculous 20-22 FG!!! and 7-8 FT. But though Creighton scored 99 points, they just had 3 players in double digits in points - 1 of whom had just 11 points ... Kalkbrenner had 49, and 1 other player had 25 points - and THAT oddity came with only 3 made FG's - and 17-17 FT!

b) Wisconsin's John Tonje - fascinating season so far ... really odd. First, this is his 6th season ... odd enough on its own. His best season ever was 2 seasons ago, for Colorado State, averaging 14.6 points per game ... previously he had averaged 6.6 ppg as a sophomore and 9.1 ppg as a Junior ... then played just 8 games for Missouri last year - averaging just 10 minutes per game. due to a foot injury pre-season and during the season. So, for one thing his scoring is ridiculously high (to his credit) so far this season, averaging 23 ppg ... and yes, he had a crazy 41 points against Arizona - but he also had 23 in the 1st game, and 13, 17 and 19 in his other games. What is also an oddity is HOW he is scoring: 41% of his total points are from the FT line (on 47-49 FT on the year - career 83.5% FT shooter). He got a crazy 22 FT attempts (made 21) versus Arizona ... but he also was 10-10 vs UT-Rio Grande, AND was 8-9 and 8-8 in 2 other games (0 FT attempts in 1 game). That is just really odd, I find.

If anyone has any other oddities, I love to see them - because this is definitely the silly season, with loads of strange, skewed, small sample-size stats.
47-49 from FT for one player after 2 weeks of the season is ridiculous .. Arizona fans were complaining about the refs on twitter, and I thought seeing they lost by 14 that they were just being whiney. But man, thats insane
 
Interesting and odd on Martinelli.

LOL! As a baseball fan, and a fantasy baseball guy, love the Gallo reference: His stats are truly odd: As an FYI, there have been times in Gallo's career where he has actually had more HR's than SINGLES - which has never been done in major league history for a career. Through his 1st 4 seasons, he had more HR than singles in each season As is, he had more HR than singles through his 1st 5 seasons - and in 4 of his 1st 5 seasons ... in his full career, he has 208 HR and 232 singles - mainly because his HR rate dropped.
Who is the last SS to lead the MLB in intentional walks?
 
Joe DiMaggio had 361 careers HRs and 369 career strike outs.
Yes, also a ridiculous (in a good way) stat.

Here is another ridiculous stat, though not in a good way: Duane Kuiper, 12 years in the major leagues (though only 4 years as a full-time starter, true), almost 3400 AB's and 3750 plate appearances, lifetime .271 BA, 917 hits ... exactly ONE (1) home run! And this in the modern age ... I believe Kuiper has the distinction of having the lowest HR rate in major league history.
 
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So, some reflections on the very early, way too small sample size, of the college season so far:

1) Early season college basketball often has many oddities ... specifically, teams often struggle. The key for an NCAA bid down the road is to SURVIVE and somehow fund a way to win to avoid a bad loss. For all I know REU will struggle at some point and take a bad loss. So far, RU has struggled just a bit in 2 games, but won - especially vs St. Peter's (the game against Monmouth was never in doubt - so some 2nd half defensive struggles, but pulling away several times). The latest exhibit: Wisconsin, last night (and Wisconsin is having a heckuva a season, so far, no?). Wisconsin beat UT-Rio Grande Valley ... by 3 ... 87-84 ... after trailing by 52-48 at the half. UT-Rio Grande Valley is now 3-3: They beat 3 poor teams (well, 2 really poor teams and a who knows whether they are good team), and have now lost to 3 decent to very good teams (by 20 to Nebraska, by 13 to Creighton - though it was not really that close, and now by 3 to Wisconsin)

2) There are also stat and individual performance oddities ... too many to keep track of, of course. Here are a couple I found fascinating:

a) In Creighton's win over UT-Rio Grande, their star Kalkbrenner scored 49 points (pretty incredible) - but how he did it, and how Creighton won, was interesting. Kalkbrenner was a ridiculous 20-22 FG!!! and 7-8 FT. But though Creighton scored 99 points, they just had 3 players in double digits in points - 1 of whom had just 11 points ... Kalkbrenner had 49, and 1 other player had 25 points - and THAT oddity came with only 3 made FG's - and 17-17 FT!

b) Wisconsin's John Tonje - fascinating season so far ... really odd. First, this is his 6th season ... odd enough on its own. His best season ever was 2 seasons ago, for Colorado State, averaging 14.6 points per game ... previously he had averaged 6.6 ppg as a sophomore and 9.1 ppg as a Junior ... then played just 8 games for Missouri last year - averaging just 10 minutes per game. due to a foot injury pre-season and during the season. So, for one thing his scoring is ridiculously high (to his credit) so far this season, averaging 23 ppg ... and yes, he had a crazy 41 points against Arizona - but he also had 23 in the 1st game, and 13, 17 and 19 in his other games. What is also an oddity is HOW he is scoring: 41% of his total points are from the FT line (on 47-49 FT on the year - career 83.5% FT shooter). He got a crazy 22 FT attempts (made 21) versus Arizona ... but he also was 10-10 vs UT-Rio Grande, AND was 8-9 and 8-8 in 2 other games (0 FT attempts in 1 game). That is just really odd, I find.

If anyone has any other oddities, I love to see them - because this is definitely the silly season, with loads of strange, skewed, small sample-size stats.
Rio Grande is better than you think . Despite Kalkbrenner’s career 49 point night , they were losing to Rio Grade for a good portion of that game and if he doesn’t have a career night Creighton loses. They also led Wisconsin for many parts of that game. Both of those games are on the road. They have some players and can hit 3’s. Giving 2 ranked teams all they can handle is worth praise even though their name sounds like a directional school.
Villanova. Once proud top of the heap program looks to be in trouble and Neptune’s days are numbered . So odd since Villanova dominated the Big East for 15 years.
The parity around the country is at an all time high. The attempt to weaken the mid major by pillaging their rosters in the transfer portal, has given some majors real life. A shame for the mid majors who were really catching up with the blue bloods. Last year Kentucky and Kansas were no so great against the mid majors . Kansas then goes to the portal to bring in players , Mayo, Storrs, and Griffin , not from mid majors but high majors in order to compete at the top. Really is amazing. No longer will have good players become great players between their sophomore and senior seasons to make a legitimate run. It will be rarer and rarer.
 
So, some reflections on the very early, way too small sample size, of the college season so far:

1) Early season college basketball often has many oddities ... specifically, teams often struggle. The key for an NCAA bid down the road is to SURVIVE and somehow fund a way to win to avoid a bad loss. For all I know REU will struggle at some point and take a bad loss. So far, RU has struggled just a bit in 2 games, but won - especially vs St. Peter's (the game against Monmouth was never in doubt - so some 2nd half defensive struggles, but pulling away several times). The latest exhibit: Wisconsin, last night (and Wisconsin is having a heckuva a season, so far, no?). Wisconsin beat UT-Rio Grande Valley ... by 3 ... 87-84 ... after trailing by 52-48 at the half. UT-Rio Grande Valley is now 3-3: They beat 3 poor teams (well, 2 really poor teams and a who knows whether they are good team), and have now lost to 3 decent to very good teams (by 20 to Nebraska, by 13 to Creighton - though it was not really that close, and now by 3 to Wisconsin)

2) There are also stat and individual performance oddities ... too many to keep track of, of course. Here are a couple I found fascinating:

a) In Creighton's win over UT-Rio Grande, their star Kalkbrenner scored 49 points (pretty incredible) - but how he did it, and how Creighton won, was interesting. Kalkbrenner was a ridiculous 20-22 FG!!! and 7-8 FT. But though Creighton scored 99 points, they just had 3 players in double digits in points - 1 of whom had just 11 points ... Kalkbrenner had 49, and 1 other player had 25 points - and THAT oddity came with only 3 made FG's - and 17-17 FT!

b) Wisconsin's John Tonje - fascinating season so far ... really odd. First, this is his 6th season ... odd enough on its own. His best season ever was 2 seasons ago, for Colorado State, averaging 14.6 points per game ... previously he had averaged 6.6 ppg as a sophomore and 9.1 ppg as a Junior ... then played just 8 games for Missouri last year - averaging just 10 minutes per game. due to a foot injury pre-season and during the season. So, for one thing his scoring is ridiculously high (to his credit) so far this season, averaging 23 ppg ... and yes, he had a crazy 41 points against Arizona - but he also had 23 in the 1st game, and 13, 17 and 19 in his other games. What is also an oddity is HOW he is scoring: 41% of his total points are from the FT line (on 47-49 FT on the year - career 83.5% FT shooter). He got a crazy 22 FT attempts (made 21) versus Arizona ... but he also was 10-10 vs UT-Rio Grande, AND was 8-9 and 8-8 in 2 other games (0 FT attempts in 1 game). That is just really odd, I find.

If anyone has any other oddities, I love to see them - because this is definitely the silly season, with loads of strange, skewed, small sample-size stats.
Rio Grande is better than you think . Despite Kalkbrenner’s career 49 point night , they were losing to Rio Grade for a good portion of that game and if he doesn’t have a career night Creighton loses. They also led Wisconsin for many parts of that game. Both of those games are on the road. They have some players and can hit 3’s. Giving 2 ranked teams all they can handle is worth praise even though their name sounds like a directional school.
Villanova. Once proud top of the heap program looks to be in trouble and Neptune’s days are numbered . So odd since Villanova dominated the Big East for 15 years.
The parity around the country is at an all time high. The attempt to weaken the mid major by pillaging their rosters in the transfer portal, has given some majors real life. A shame for the mid majors who were really catching up with the blue bloods. Last year Kentucky and Kansas were no so great against the mid majors . Kansas then goes to the portal to bring in players , Mayo, Storrs, and Griffen. Kansas able to get them from high majors not mid majors giving them the depth they lacked last year
 
Lot of reverting to go. He owes you a few pies and he needs to sing American Idiot to me.
My post was made at the half when he had 6 points on 3 of 9 shooting. He ended up with 22! I don't get it.

That said, Northwestern looks like trash this season tbh
 
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