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Congratulations Paul

Should have dug a little deeper. The article you referenced was from March of 2022.

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So I’ve looked deeper into this after all these replies.

I have to eat crow and give props to RU Alum Jordan Belzer; in the past I’ve been harsh on him but he is a true Rutgers man. Very happy Paul won this award for RU exposure. As it turns out, Belzerlikely threw RU and Paul a bone and good press for the program as he is the co-founder of the NIL Summit (now that a backhanded compliment; but seems to be what’s happened here).

Paul’s non-profit was founded prior to his NIL deals and his philanthropic activity (that I could find) was giving food gift cards to 260 Rutgers students and facility Ops employees. Obv the non-profit did more with NIL. There are a few others ITT who said Paul is deserving/mentioned they were aware of his efforts so if I’m missing anything else I apologize and when that’s posted re-evaluate (I admit I may have missed something, already missed the RU connection so totally possible).

How would people analyze those efforts (which are good natured in their own right don’t get me wrong) to a list of NIL-specific non-profit and philanthropic work https://www.dreamfield.co/resources/10-ways-college-athletes-are-using-nil-for-good by other NIL athletes around the county?

So you ate crow by giving a back handed compliment to Paul’s NIL efforts by:

- Saying that he was thrown a bone by Belzer
- Passive aggressively trying to discredit his NIL work by asking us to compare it to other students work (which isn’t all that different than the others)

You’re a weeeeeird dude and again showing your’re not actually a Rutgers fan by trying to discredit a kid like Paul.
 
Every single post by this guy takes a passive aggressive dig and then plays the "what, who me?" game. Hook line and sinker.
Man, this really bothers some of you.

I never play the “who me?” card. I own up to the points being made. I disagree with the characterization because I am upfront about them. Pointing out positives and negatives doesn’t equate to passive aggressive. This board loves to paint a picture of a good side and dark side. Countless times I’ve applauded Paul’s of the court achievements. Some you can’t help but notice sone irony I admit (sportsmanship award( neither here nor there at the moment). Certain players seem to get defended at all costs (even in situations like this where no defense is needed) while others are fair game.
 
Man, this really bothers some of you.

I never play the “who me?” card. I own up to the points being made. I disagree with the characterization because I am upfront about them. Pointing out positives and negatives doesn’t equate to passive aggressive. This board loves to paint a picture of a good side and dark side. Countless times I’ve applauded Paul’s of the court achievements. Some you can’t help but notice sone irony I admit (sportsmanship award( neither here nor there at the moment). Certain players seem to get defended at all costs (even in situations like this where no defense is needed) while others are fair game.
You are absolutely ridiculous. Why not just celebrate Paul? You have to find some angle to say he was gifted the award for PR purposes.

Paul has been a tremendous ambassador for RU, his nonprofit ventures, and more. Not to mention he's one heck of a basketball player that always puts his teammates first (perhaps more than he should in some cases).

Yet here you and many of our fans are, wishing he never put the RU uniform back on.

Ridiculous.

Look in the mirror and be ashamed of that guy.
 
You are absolutely ridiculous. Why not just celebrate Paul? You have to find some angle to say he was gifted the award for PR purposes.

Paul has been a tremendous ambassador for RU, his nonprofit ventures, and more. Not to mention he's one heck of a basketball player that always puts his teammates first (perhaps more than he should in some cases).

Yet here you and many of our fans are, wishing he never put the RU uniform back on.

Ridiculous.

Look in the mirror and be ashamed of that guy.
I haven’t see anyone say they wish paul never wore a Rutgers uniform and many of Paul’s accomplishments have been nothing but celebrated.

Good post highlighting the strange and unnecessary defense of some players when (it’s not even needed, and in this case off topic) other players don’t seem to get the same treatment.
 
I haven’t see anyone say they wish paul never wore a Rutgers uniform and many of Paul’s accomplishments have been nothing but celebrated.

Good post highlighting the strange and unnecessary defense of some players when (it’s not even needed, and in this case off topic) other players don’t seem to get the same treatment.
Your selective memory is impressive. Way to shape your own personal narrative.
 
Man, this really bothers some of you.

I never play the “who me?” card. I own up to the points being made. I disagree with the characterization because I am upfront about them. Pointing out positives and negatives doesn’t equate to passive aggressive. This board loves to paint a picture of a good side and dark side. Countless times I’ve applauded Paul’s of the court achievements. Some you can’t help but notice sone irony I admit (sportsmanship award( neither here nor there at the moment). Certain players seem to get defended at all costs (even in situations like this where no defense is needed) while others are fair game.

If you were up front in this thread you would have just came out and said Paul didn’t deserve the NIL award (which is what you are passively aggressively inferring).

Just like if you were up front in your Cliff / solo captain thread you would have just came out and said you don’t think Paul should be a captain (which is what you were passive aggressively inferring).

Some of us were on to you years ago. I’m enjoying how many more have caught on to your schtick. Dozens of posters are now calling you out…maybe it’s time to look yourself in the mirror.

Or just go and post on the other college boards that you told us you donate $ towards….you’re not an actual Rutgers fan and you’re certainly a $hitty alum.
 
If you were up front in this thread you would have just came out and said Paul didn’t deserve the NIL award (which is what you are passively aggressively inferring).

Just like if you were up front in your Cliff / solo captain thread you would have just came out and said you don’t think Paul should be a captain (which is what you were passive aggressively inferring).

Some of us were on to you years ago. I’m enjoying how many more have caught on to your schtick. Dozens of posters are now calling you out…maybe it’s time to look yourself in the mirror.

Or just go and post on the other college boards that you told us you donate $ towards….you’re not an actual Rutgers fan and you’re certainly a $hitty alum.
I don’t post in absolutes like you might. I don’t believe strongly enough that “Paul didn’t deserve to win” and I don’t believe strongly enough that “Paul doesn’t deserve to be captain (which I outright said in that thread). I post about topics that have a lot of nuanced points and wait to hear what people are thinking and see how they view things. I’m not bothered by other opinions I like hearing them.
 
I don’t post in absolutes like you might. I don’t believe strongly enough that “Paul didn’t deserve to win” and I don’t believe strongly enough that “Paul doesn’t deserve to be captain (which I outright said in that thread). I post about topics that have a lot of nuanced points and wait to hear what people are thinking and see how they view things. I’m not bothered by other opinions I like hearing them.
Well I know Paul should absolutely be a captain next year if he's back.
 
Man, this really bothers some of you.

I never play the “who me?” card. I own up to the points being made. I disagree with the characterization because I am upfront about them. Pointing out positives and negatives doesn’t equate to passive aggressive. This board loves to paint a picture of a good side and dark side. Countless times I’ve applauded Paul’s of the court achievements. Some you can’t help but notice sone irony I admit (sportsmanship award( neither here nor there at the moment). Certain players seem to get defended at all costs (even in situations like this where no defense is needed) while others are fair game.
Good callback but the threw him a bone accusation is worthy of a bother more than a player wanting his family around to celebrate an announcement
 
I don’t post in absolutes like you might. I don’t believe strongly enough that “Paul didn’t deserve to win” and I don’t believe strongly enough that “Paul doesn’t deserve to be captain (which I outright said in that thread). I post about topics that have a lot of nuanced points and wait to hear what people are thinking and see how they view things. I’m not bothered by other opinions I like hearing them.

Let’s not try to complicate things here. This is how it goes.

- You’re not upfront with you obvious agenda/true thoughts
- You get called out not being direct
- Then you play dumb (and sometimes victim)
- Rinse and repeat.

You seem to be one of select and special few who gets yourself into these situations. Dozens of people are now recognizing it.

Again - I politely suggest to take a look in the mirror or spend more time/calories on the other schools message boards that you donate money to.

I think all of our collective lives and time would be better.
 
Let’s not try to complicate things here. This is how it goes.

- You’re not upfront with you obvious agenda/true thoughts
- You get called out not being direct
- Then you play dumb (and sometimes victim)
- Rinse and repeat.

You seem to be one of select and special few who gets yourself into these situations. Dozens of people are now recognizing it.

Again - I politely suggest to take a look in the mirror or spend more time/calories on the other schools message boards that you donate money to.

I think all of our collective lives and time would be better.
Any inadequacy you’re feeling about your life and how you spend your time is none of my business and no concern if mine. You are in control and no one else.

I can’t help it if people are not assuming positive intent. If people choose to be perpetually antagonistic that is their choice.

Let’s be honest no change in how I post will satisfy anyone because it’s the perceived negativity that people don’t tolerate. If I posted a thread titled “paul doesn’t deserve to be team captain” (which is a different point than I made, completely) people would freak out and you’d be first in line per usual, probably trying to twist the point to something else we haven’t thought of yet.

Either way it’s no sweat off my back and some people do discuss the topic at hand with positive intent so that’s nice.
 
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- You’re not upfront with you obvious agenda/true thoughts
- You get called out not being direct
- Then you play dumb (and sometimes victim)
- Rinse and repeat.

You seem to be one of select and special few who gets yourself into these situations. Dozens of people are now recognizing it.

^ this ^
 
I haven’t decided but as I said it seems likely from comparing the efforts of other NIL athletes.

Social media campaigns on gratitude and meals to 260 students/facility operations employees vs the efforts in the article I posted showing 10 figure contributions and investment to other more developed foundations, hospitals, marginalized communities, etc. It was the only conclusion I could see given what’s out of there.

I wouldn’t call it an agenda, I just dug deeper and this is what I found.
You dug and found exactly what you were looking for. Funny how you work.
 
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Any inadequacy you’re feeling about your life and how you spend your time is none of my business and no concern if mine. You are in control and no one else.

I can’t help it if people are not assuming positive intent. If people choose to be perpetually antagonistic that is their choice.

Let’s be honest no change in how I post will satisfy anyone because it’s the perceived negativity that people don’t tolerate. If I posted a thread titled “paul doesn’t deserve to be team captain” (which is a different point than I made, completely) people would freak out and you’d be first in line per usual, probably trying to twist the point to something else we haven’t thought of yet.

Either way it’s no sweat off my back and some people do discuss the topic at hand with positive intent so that’s nice.

Except who cares about the philanthropic activities of players on other teams? Why research it or bring it up at all? Do you follow the donation patterns of random professional ball players? Surely the answer is no. This award is only news because Paul represents the university so we’re all proud of him. There was never good reason to discuss the competition one way or the other. We know about Paul’s philanthropic efforts and we’re excited and proud that he earned this award for it. Why can’t you leave it at that?
 
This thread is now less about Paul's good works and more about fighting a poster that has been deemed disrespectful and having that poster sucker others into replies so the thread becomes him/her getting the attention while Paul's non-profit philanthropic causes fade into the background.
 
This thread is now less about Paul's good works and more about fighting a poster that has been deemed disrespectful and having that poster sucker others into replies so the thread becomes him/her getting the attention while Paul's non-profit philanthropic causes fade into the background.
Funny how that works, right? 😃

I'd like to say it's a RU thing, or a NJ thing. But I'm pretty sure that phenomenon is pretty universal to internet forums of all kinds. For sure it's prevalent with automotive forums.

Although, now that I think about it, in firearm-related forums, people tend to be both more respectful and less argumentative. 🤣
 
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This thread is now less about Paul's good works and more about fighting a poster that has been deemed disrespectful and having that poster sucker others into replies so the thread becomes him/her getting the attention while Paul's non-profit philanthropic causes fade into the background.
He did it in many threads about Geo because he felt RHJ was being disrespected whenever Geo got more praise or was called the face of the program. The funny thing is RHJ would laugh in this guy's face hearing his arguments because he had total respect for Geo and what the two of them meant to the team.
 
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Except who cares about the philanthropic activities of players on other teams? Why research it or bring it up at all? Do you follow the donation patterns of random professional ball players? Surely the answer is no. This award is only news because Paul represents the university so we’re all proud of him. There was never good reason to discuss the competition one way or the other. We know about Paul’s philanthropic efforts and we’re excited and proud that he earned this award for it. Why can’t you leave it at that?
Really scummy post
 
Scummy, how? Your the one who just could not allow this string to simply be about congratulating Paul and recognizing the good he’s done in the philanthropic space. That’s what’s “scummy” here. And even if what you said actually was valid (it’s not) it’s still very distasteful.

It only comes across as scummy to you because it obviously struck a nerve. To the rest of us it was a perfectly fine and accurate post.
It’s really sad to see educated ru alums lets scarlet colored glasses devalue philanthropic efforts by college athletes who don’t play for their schools. That’s not perfectly fine it’s a damn shame.

These responses are examples of the dark side of fanaticism and it’s a shame it’s gotten to this point.
 
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Philanthropy is to be commended, great what Paul does, and also the athletes at other schools, but if I am to be honest, I could live with Latrell Spreewell choking out coach Pike if it meant winning a Big 10 title or going on a deep run in the tournament . . .
 
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Good job sojo, you made this thread about yourself and instead of talking about Paul everone is arguing with you over what you post.
 
It’s really sad to see educated ru alums lets scarlet colored glasses devalue philanthropic efforts by college athletes who don’t play for their schools. That’s not perfectly fine it’s a damn shame.

These responses are examples of the dark side of fanaticism and it’s a shame it’s gotten to this point.

More victim playing lol
 
Good job sojo, you made this thread about yourself and instead of talking about Paul everone is arguing with you over what you post.
I wouldn’t say anyone is looking to argue with him - more like everyone is just irritated with his posts being there in general - in this situation.

Just say nothing on an RU board if those are your thoughts. Feel free to go to the boards of teams with players you think deserved the award over him and send a shout out there. What he did would be like going on the string announcing Caleb’s DPOY award (or any of our other guys who received basketball awards) and posting about how someone else besides him really should have won it instead.
 
Good job sojo, you made this thread about yourself and instead of talking about Paul everone is arguing with you over what you post.
I didn’t make anything people are accountable for their own arguing
 
Only you can turn a positive post into a negative one lol. I replied to a post that said (paraphrasing) “hopefully more players are doing good things off the court”

One of the mods merged threads there was another one with more posts that was a different topic the poor moderation might’ve made the intent more confusing. Maybe didn’t idk
No.. you were the one forcing a particular viewpoint in this thread.

The question is.. why? Why did you do that? You are being a racist and many of us see it but were too polite to say so... unlike me. You did it again in the Robeson award thread for Paul.. how do you NOT see that this is what you are doing?

pike has created a good culture for this team. A lot of guys embody the prerequisites for this award. Cliff came to mind first actually which goes to show how good a group Pike has.
 
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No.. you were the one forcing a particular viewpoint in this thread.

The question is.. why? Why did you do that? You are being a racist and many of us see it but were too polite to say so... unlike me. You did it again in the Robeson award thread for Paul.. how do you NOT see that this is what you are doing?
Might be time to lock this one up the crazies are coming out and outing themselves to boot
 
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