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Dear Drew

The one that was called on 3rd and 8 that only had Harris running a route absolutely killed me.
 
When you run a hurry-up offense and don't have the talent for it, it can get ugly fast.

Just check out the Washington/Oregon score.

Against top competition we need to slow he game down and reduce the amount of possessions. Going run run incomplete pass punt in less than 5 minutes is going to run the defense ragged. And that's what happened. The defense was able to stop Michigan on it's first few possessions.

Then they got tired and we got exposed the entire rest of the game.

The D is the "lesser weakness" of the team right now. We need to scheme to help them.
 
When you run a hurry-up offense and don't have the talent for it, it can get ugly fast.

Just check out the Washington/Oregon score.

Against top competition we need to slow he game down and reduce the amount of possessions. Going run run incomplete pass punt in less than 5 minutes is going to run the defense ragged. And that's what happened. The defense was able to stop Michigan on it's first few possessions.

Then they got tired and we got exposed the entire rest of the game.

The D is the "lesser weakness" of the team right now. We need to scheme to help them.
 
I jump out of my seat everytime I see that. Of all the bad plays run, that is the one that is guaranteed to fail without question.
 
When you run a hurry-up offense and don't have the talent for it, it can get ugly fast.

Just check out the Washington/Oregon score.

Against top competition we need to slow he game down and reduce the amount of possessions. Going run run incomplete pass punt in less than 5 minutes is going to run the defense ragged. And that's what happened. The defense was able to stop Michigan on it's first few possessions.

Then they got tired and we got exposed the entire rest of the game.

The D is the "lesser weakness" of the team right now. We need to scheme to help them.


This...its mind numbing to continue to do it in agame you are getting the living crap beat out of you
 
2 years ago when Michigan had gobs of money and tradition and a bad coach we won.

There are some lessons to be learned there, I think. And there is no reason for any team to look this bad on offense. It is a lie to blame talent when you get whooped this badly. We should lose to a team that good.. But it should be more like 48-20.

I'd love to know why Allen was kept in there for that long? Were the fans being punished food not liking Laviano?
 
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Many on this board saw the throwing across the body problem from game one. Its become so much worse. What's the definition of insanity? Where is the "coaching"?
 
But the question is "why not mirror image the play?"
so the QB is going to his right?
 
It's on Ash. He made a 27yr old who was a WR coach his OC. Ash has also stated repeatedly that he doesn't focus on offense bc he's a defensive coach so leaves it all up to Drew. How do you hire someone with this little experience and provide no oversight? If he did that with DC, I could understand since he would be heavily involved.
 
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Thank god, he's only on a 2 year deal.

If Ash wants to keep his job in year 3, he needs cut Mehringer at the end of the season and bring in the most experienced/top notch OC we can afford. Let that man decide the offensive system.
 
But the question is "why not mirror image the play?"
so the QB is going to his right?

Because I'm pretty sure, when you've got the right guys out there, that play can be a big, big-hitter for the O. So...you practice it, you run it, eventually you get the right guys and BAMM! Just bites ass for now.
 
Because I'm pretty sure, when you've got the right guys out there, that play can be a big, big-hitter for the O. So...you practice it, you run it, eventually you get the right guys and BAMM! Just bites ass for now.
Since we obviously don't have the right players now, then can someone explain why they are running it now?
 
Who cares about Mehringers age. Seriously we have no weapons on offense besides Martin. Our qbs can't complete a simple flat route when the receiver is wide open.
His age is relevant because every piece of modern research demonstrates that you get good at a profession only through practice. Talent is not enough, you get good at what you do through years of hard work. Mehringer has already demonstrated that he is a slow learner.

Last year when I needed a dental implant I learned my dentist is now doing them. I asked how many have you done and what specialized training have you received. The answer to the first question was 16. That was enough, I went to the periodontist who does implants every day.
 
His age is relevant because every piece of modern research demonstrates that you get good at a profession only through practice. Talent is not enough, you get good at what you do through years of hard work. Mehringer has already demonstrated that he is a slow learner.

Last year when I needed a dental implant I learned my dentist is now doing them. I asked how many have you done and what specialized training have you received. The answer to the first question was 16. That was enough, I went to the periodontist who does implants every day.
If you need years and years of experience to be good at anything how can you say he's a slow learner 6 games into the season? He was recommended to Ash by Herman which means he probably had a significant impact on that Houston offense. You have to take chances on young coaches who have high ceilings when you don't have the money. We did with Schiano. I mean would you rather hire a young Harvard graduate for cheaper or an experienced University of Toledo graduate for more money?

Mehringer did not recruit this offense. He didn't injure our best offensive weapon. He cannot throw passes for our QBs. We have an extremely limited skillset on offense. When you don't have weapons and you are one dimensional, it's very easy to make adjustments against.

Has PJ Fleck's lack of experience kept him from turning Western Michigan into a ranked program? No, because he has a good pedigree and has characteristics that make a good head coach. It's not all about experience.

Is Neimann a slow learner too? What about Okruch? Why don't you attribute the bad play with the defense or special teams to their experience? Because they have a heck of a lot more experience and their groups are pretty bad too.

Maybe it's the players that just aren't good.
 
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I wouldn't include Niemann...his squad shows some level of competence and fledgling signs of improvement (other than last night) but they're just worn out. Mehringer's squad has shown squat and the playcalling continues to suck. Okruch has tons of experience, but was a non-coach making 27k a year at OSU. I'm fine with him doing the same thing thing in Psicataway for 50k. But he obviously can't do the job as ST. F-ing Joe Rossi did better on ST.
 
If you need years and years of experience to be good at anything how can you say he's a slow learner 6 games into the season? He was recommended to Ash by Herman which means he probably had a significant impact on that Houston offense. You have to take chances on young coaches who have high ceilings when you don't have the money. We did with Schiano. I mean would you rather hire a young Harvard graduate for cheaper or an experienced University of Toledo graduate for more money?

Mehringer did not recruit this offense. He didn't injure our best offensive weapon. He cannot throw passes for our QBs. We have an extremely limited skillset on offense. When you don't have weapons and you are one dimensional, it's very easy to make adjustments against.

Has PJ Fleck's lack of experience kept him from turning Western Michigan into a ranked program? No, because he has a good pedigree and has characteristics that make a good head coach. It's not all about experience.

Is Neimann a slow learner too? What about Okruch? Why don't you attribute the bad play with the defense or special teams to their experience? Because they have a heck of a lot more experience and their groups are pretty bad too.

Maybe it's the players that just aren't good.
Mehringer has his only passing quarterback, Rettig, 4th on the depth chart which is all the evidence I need that he is a slow learner and determined to impose his system on a team that can't run it.

As for practice vs talent, Anders Ericsson is one of the most celebrated psycologists of our time for his research on practice vs talent. His new book Peak is available at Amazon. Here is one journal article by Ericsson on practice: http://projects.ict.usc.edu/itw/gel/EricssonDeliberatePracticePR93.pdf

Ericsson's research is about a very specific form of practice, what he calls deliberate practice. Deliberate practice is not mere experience but deliberately identifying what you are weak at and improving that part of your game. Most people don't do that, the greats do.
 
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It's on Ash. He made a 27yr old who was a WR coach his OC. Ash has also stated repeatedly that he doesn't focus on offense bc he's a defensive coach so leaves it all up to Drew. How do you hire someone with this little experience and provide no oversight? If he did that with DC, I could understand since he would be heavily involved.
As a defensive coach, Ash must surely be aware that the ineptitude of the offense is causing his defense to wear down. I find it unfathomable to believe that Ash has not discussed this with Mehringer.
 
If you need years and years of experience to be good at anything how can you say he's a slow learner 6 games into the season? He was recommended to Ash by Herman which means he probably had a significant impact on that Houston offense. You have to take chances on young coaches who have high ceilings when you don't have the money. We did with Schiano. I mean would you rather hire a young Harvard graduate for cheaper or an experienced University of Toledo graduate for more money?

Mehringer did not recruit this offense. He didn't injure our best offensive weapon. He cannot throw passes for our QBs. We have an extremely limited skillset on offense. When you don't have weapons and you are one dimensional, it's very easy to make adjustments against.

Has PJ Fleck's lack of experience kept him from turning Western Michigan into a ranked program? No, because he has a good pedigree and has characteristics that make a good head coach. It's not all about experience.

Is Neimann a slow learner too? What about Okruch? Why don't you attribute the bad play with the defense or special teams to their experience? Because they have a heck of a lot more experience and their groups are pretty bad too.

Maybe it's the players that just aren't good.
None of this has anything to do with the fact our OC rolls his QB to the side that forces an across the body throw. He's been doing it since game one.
Our guy has trouble throwing with a calm pocket and his feet set, now you ask him to roll out and throw across his body…why?

Does ash ever ask Drew why he hasn't thrown a pitch all year or once ran outside the tackles with a tailback?
 
REALLY ? The plan is not roll left and to throw across his body to the middle of the field. The play is to roll out left and throw a quick pass to the sideline. If the receiver does not run it correctly or if good defense blows up the play then you throw it away.

I saw OSU run the same play yesterday with Barrett and Samuel....with Barrett rolling out left. It's all about attacking the entire field on plays so that defense can't get comfortable.
 
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REALLY ? The plan is not roll left and to throw across his body to the middle of the field. The play is to roll out left and throw a quick pass to the sideline. If the receiver does not run it correctly or if good defense blows up the play then you throw it away.

I saw OSU run the same play yesterday with Barrett and Samuel....with Barrett rolling out left. It's all about attacking the entire field on plays.
We do it on 3rd and 8…it's awful. You don't design a play for 3rd down with one option
 
REALLY ? The plan is not roll left and to throw across his body to the middle of the field. The play is to roll out left and throw a quick pass to the sideline. If the receiver does not run it correctly or if good defense blows up the play then you throw it away.

I saw OSU run the same play yesterday with Barrett and Samuel....with Barrett rolling out left. It's all about attacking the entire field on plays so that defense can't get comfortable.

Our QB's have continually shown that they cannot complete this pass, so why continue calling it? It is an absolute waste.
 
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We do it on 3rd and 8…it's awful. You don't design a play for 3rd down with one option

It worked with Barrett and Samuel.....it caught the defense off guard. It wont work if the OL can't block and hold the edge.
 
Our QB's have continually shown that they cannot complete this pass, so why continue calling it? It is an absolute waste.

Laviano or Allen can't complete the majority of passes attempted in games. Are they all a waste? It's about execution, bad pass blocking and bad QB play. If a play is called in games that means it has been completed in practice.
 
None of this has anything to do with the fact our OC rolls his QB to the side that forces an across the body throw. He's been doing it since game one.
Our guy has trouble throwing with a calm pocket and his feet set, now you ask him to roll out and throw across his body…why?

Does ash ever ask Drew why he hasn't thrown a pitch all year or once ran outside the tackles with a tailback?
Yes, we are extremely limited in our playcalls. Our QB cannot complete simple passes. If you are a D1 QB recruit you should be able to throw a 10 yard pass against your body. He is always on the run because our pass protection is awful.
Our QB's have continually shown that they cannot complete this pass, so why continue calling it? It is an absolute waste.
Ok so then we are extremely limited to what plays we can even run. We can't run Martin every play. We are playing chess against teams who have all queen and knight pieces to our pawns. It's very easy to adjust a defense to stop our offense because we just don't have the players that can run explosive plays.
 
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