Does Greg Deserve an Extension?

[Knight Shift]

For two winning seasons in a row.
Per @Plum Street 's request:
Under contract through 2030 (only 6 more years-he made $6.25 million in 2024

 

[RUTGERS95]

lol

God I hope no one thinks so

 

[newwavedave1]

No. Two seasons at 7-6 is just plain mediocre.

 

[RUTGERS95]

someone voted yes? lol

I gotta log off, I'm gonna have a heart attack

 

[mdk01]

Beyond 2030?

 

[AdventureHasAName]

Voted no. As I've said a hundred times on here, he is the best available coach for our situation that we can afford. So we should be glad we have him. But likewise, he has no better options. There is no better job that will hire him. So there's no reason to throw more money at him. We're stuck with each other (at the current compensation level).

And that's being fully aware that the team is going to get worse not better. There are teams that will throw tons of money at the NIL problem, and we will never, ever have that ability.

 

[kupuna133]

For two winning seasons in a row.

Not only does he not deserve one. But Kirk sure as shit didn’t need to be renewed either. No one is hiring him away from us. And we would have no problem finding a person that can design plays to be 4 yards short of the sticks on 4th and 7.

 

[Knight Shift]

Not only does he not deserve one. But Kirk sure as shit didn’t need to be renewed either. No one is hiring him away from us. And we would have no problem finding a person that can design plays to be 4 yards short of the sticks on 4th and 7.

But Greg got a huge extension and a raise after last year, a .500 regular season and a win over a roster-depleted ACC team. If you follow the bread crumb trail and what happened with Kirk a few weeks ago, another extension is in the cards!

 

[Plum Street]

@Knight Shift what are the terms of his contract right now ? I would think you need to provide those details when posing this question

 

[Mr Magoo]

He didn’t deserve the last one.

 

[Doctor Worm]

You are probably trolling us, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt and answer as best I can.

Greg has six years left on his contract. SIX. There is only one reason why any coach would be extended in that situation. That's if the coach is such a hot commodity that you want to golden handcuff him as best you can. As a term of the extension, you include a prohibitive buyout clause. Granted, nothing is prohibitive these days, but you do the best you can.

Is Greg such a hot commodity that you need to apply the golden handcuffs?

That's a rhetorical question, no need to respond.

 

[Shelby65]

You are probably trolling us, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt and answer as best I can.

Greg has six years left on his contract. SIX. There is only one reason why any coach would be extended in that situation. That's if the coach is such a hot commodity that you want to golden handcuff him as best you can. As a term of the extension, you include a prohibitive buyout clause. Granted, nothing is prohibitive these days, but you do the best you can.

Is Greg such a hot commodity that you need to apply the golden handcuffs?

That's a rhetorical question, no need to respond.

What he deserves and what he gets are different things, as we have seen.

 

[kupuna133]

But Greg got a huge extension and a raise after last year, a .500 regular season and a win over a roster-depleted ACC team. If you follow the bread crumb trail and what happened with Kirk a few weeks ago, another extension is in the cards!

Yea there is a history of Rutgers negotiating against themselves in coaches contracts. Very few of our coaches in any sport are at risk of being poached. No need to continually extend and grant long term contracts at this point.

 

[Knight Shift]

You are probably trolling us, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt and answer as best I can.

Greg has six years left on his contract. SIX. There is only one reason why any coach would be extended in that situation. That's if the coach is such a hot commodity that you want to golden handcuff him as best you can. As a term of the extension, you include a prohibitive buyout clause. Granted, nothing is prohibitive these days, but you do the best you can.

Is Greg such a hot commodity that you need to apply the golden handcuffs?

That's a rhetorical question, no need to respond.

Not exactly trolling. Taking the pulse of the board.
4 votes were for yes.
I agree with @kupuna133 and @Mr Magoo that the last one was not deserved.
But AD's are like lemmings that hand out unjustified extensions and raises for the most minor accomplishments. This is often driven by the influential donors who seem to be quite happy with the performance to date. Also consider the Kirk extension this year. Why?

 

[RAC93]

Greg and Pike should both be shuffling along on the same sheet of thin ice, kind of like how the eskimos used to send off their elderly on ice.

 

[superfan01]

Greg is building a solid program considering we are at a huge NIL disadvantage to our in conference peers. He isn't the best in game coach but I think he is really good coach overall.

I don't think any other coach can really bring us to the level some fans are demanding without a huge bump in NIL. It's the truth.

So feel Greg is doing as good as we can expect.

 

[RU-Hunter]

No, we just lost a meaningless bowl game. At this point, he needs to get us to the next level.

 

[RU#1fan]

Not only does he not deserve one. But Kirk sure as shit didn’t need to be renewed either. No one is hiring him away from us. And we would have no problem finding a person that can design plays to be 4 yards short of the sticks on 4th and 7.

Yes.. sitting in the Stadium I couldn’t believe yet again {and again and again} we call a play that needs 7 yards for 1st down and only throw it for 3 yards. And that coming out of a timeout. WTF again??????

 

[rucoe89]

Voted no. As I've said a hundred times on here, he is the best available coach for our situation that we can afford. So we should be glad we have him. But likewise, he has no better options. There is no better job that will hire him. So there's no reason to throw more money at him. We're stuck with each other (at the current compensation level).

And that's being fully aware that the team is going to get worse not better. There are teams that will throw tons of money at the NIL problem, and we will never, ever have that ability.

Fully agree with this. No need for an extension unless its cheap to help him recruit. However, he has no real options other than Rutgers right now. Would like to see him succeed here because he wants to be here. The downside is his ceiling may be what we saw this season.

I still think he is better for football than Pikiell is for basketball.

 

[RU205]

Greg is building a solid program considering we are at a huge NIL disadvantage to our in conference peers. He isn't the best in game coach but I think he is really good coach overall.

I don't think any other coach can really bring us to the level some fans are demanding without a huge bump in NIL. It's the truth.

So feel Greg is doing as good as we can expect.

Today’s game has nothing to do with NIL.

 

[mdk01]

Not exactly trolling. Taking the pulse of the board.
4 votes were for yes.
I agree with @kupuna133 and @Mr Magoo that the last one was not deserved.
But AD's are like lemmings that hand out unjustified extensions and raises for the most minor accomplishments. This is often driven by the influential donors who seem to be quite happy with the performance to date. Also consider the Kirk extension this year. Why?

Not trolling? You don't think leaving out the existing contract runx though 2030 might both affect the vote and the reason people made those votes? That not extending beyond 2030 is very different than not extending from 2025 or 2026?

 

[kupuna133]

Today’s game has nothing to do with NIL.

Only one team on our schedule this year had an NIL advantage on us. Our losses this year cannot be attributed to NIL. Wait until next year when NIL truly shows.

 

[RU205]

Only one team on our schedule this year had an NIL advantage on us. Our losses this year cannot be attributed to NIL. Wait until next year when NIL truly shows.

I agree. We didn’t blow a 17 point lead today because of NIL. Next year the schedule gets tougher.

 

[Shelby65]

Fully agree with this. No need for an extension unless its cheap to help him recruit. However, he has no real options other than Rutgers right now. Would like to see him succeed here because he wants to be here. The downside is his ceiling may be what we saw this season.

I still think he is better for football than Pikiell is for basketball.

Of course he wants to be here bc he knows no other program would take his agent’s phone calls. And on top of that, he knows expectations are very low. He’ll milk RU for every penny he can get until he retires.

 

[ashokan]

Can't trust RU admins to hire a football savvy AD or coach.
Julie Hermann wasn't hired for her big time sports acumen

 

[KK1827]

Whata dumb poll. He has 7 years left so obviously theres no extension on the table. Click bait. Beyond dumb poll.

 

[Randal7]

What are we on — the 15 year plan?

 

[RAC93]

Whata dumb poll. He has 7 years left so obviously theres no extension on the table. Click bait. Beyond dumb poll.

So you might be saying the poll is almost as dumb as calling timeout when a guy is kicking an impossible 58 yard field goal into the wind?

 

[Shelby65]

So you might be saying the poll is almost as dumb as calling timeout when a guy is kicking an impossible 58 yard field goal into the wind?

No, nowhere near as dumb as that. Schiano topped his usual subhuman coaching intellect with invertebrate neural function against Illinois.

 

[Shelby65]

Whata dumb poll. He has 7 years left so obviously theres no extension on the table. Click bait. Beyond dumb poll.

You’ll see. He’ll get another extension and raise before New Years.

 

[czxqa]

LOLOL you guys are funny. Let's worry about getting a quality AD first; and as we have all heard here a million times, we can't do that until a quality replacement for Holloway is in place. There won't be any head coaching extensions, changes or anything else until all that happens first. Right now, the BOG is just praying for the status quo to last until those two hires are in.
I will say Greg has been wildly successful in one aspect- raising the expectations of the fan base.

 

[BOGDANOVICH]

He does not deserve even the whiff of an extension, but, since Rutgers has the worst managed athletics department in the country, he probably will get an extension through 2040.

 

[Jumba72]

Why exactly was Dremel forgotten?

 

[ClassOf02]

We should probably hire an AD first. And in order to do that properly, we should probably hire a President before that.

 

[rufeelinit]

Rutgers and college athletics in general needs a DOGE like initiative to reduce the never ending growth in wasteful spending. Did you ever look at the size of the football staff? What is it going to cost for Schiano to find a competent DC who wants to work with him? The idea that he has a long list of guys dying to join his staff seems like a fallacy given how long and how many counters it took to get KC to come on board. How many basketball coaches these days? When does RU hire a GM?

Yeah a lot of the waste falls on donors who I guess have nothing better to waste their money on, but it is still a terrible look to have a pay someone a big buyout to get them to leave. If you bring the entire amount of wasteful spending by universities in general into the picture, I don't doubt that it might give the federal government a run for its money on a relative basis. Its amazing that through all of the student loan forgiveness debacle no one ever shined the spotlight on the root cause of the problem which is the rampant increase in the cost of a college education.

How much you think that bowl game cost Rutgers last night? Looked like not many fans in the stand but we brought the entire band. Do they still make you eat large ticket allotments or does ESPN pick up the freight for these made for TV events? Without them, these games can't stand on their own and will be gone soon given the CFP expansion.

 

[Doctor Worm]

Why exactly was Dremel forgotten?

Because Miller is better.

 

[RUDivision]

Greg is building a solid program considering we are at a huge NIL disadvantage to our in conference peers. He isn't the best in game coach but I think he is really good coach overall.

I don't think any other coach can really bring us to the level some fans are demanding without a huge bump in NIL. It's the truth.

So feel Greg is doing as good as we can expect.

You say he’s not the best in game coach and I agree.
Really good coach overall! Why? Not arguing just trying to understand what is good?
Player development?
Recruiting?
Defense?

He is a bad coach and an embarrassing coordinator tied to the largest scandal in college football history! Thrown out of Tampa. Thrown out of Ohio State. Why????

The excuses have run out. New AD new Head coach

 

[RUDivision]

Not exactly trolling. Taking the pulse of the board.
4 votes were for yes.
I agree with @kupuna133 and @Mr Magoo that the last one was not deserved.
But AD's are like lemmings that hand out unjustified extensions and raises for the most minor accomplishments. This is often driven by the influential donors who seem to be quite happy with the performance to date. Also consider the Kirk extension this year. Why?

I’m not disagreeing but we as a board reference the “Influential donors” the “power” they have and how they like Greg.

In the next breath we lament our lack of Nil support and all of the disadvantages our program must fight because those donors.

So why are we listening to influential donors who don’t help or move the needle for the program? Clearly, they have no idea what there doing and care more personal access to the program then actual success.

 

[Doctor Worm]

LOLOL you guys are funny. Let's worry about getting a quality AD first; and as we have all heard here a million times, we can't do that until a quality replacement for Holloway is in place. There won't be any head coaching extensions, changes or anything else until all that happens first. Right now, the BOG is just praying for the status quo to last until those two hires are in.
I will say Greg has been wildly successful in one aspect- raising the expectations of the fan base.

Thank you. This is an academic exercise until we have an AD, which isn't happening until 3rd quarter 2025 at the absolute earliest.

 

[megadrone]

I voted no -- there is a lot of time left on his current contract and there is very little risk of him getting hired away. If we continue to have winning seasons, we can extend him in a few years. So that gives us 3 or 4 years to hire an AD who could extend him? 🤣