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Fast Forward 10 Years - Was the B1G Admission Worth it?

Fast Forward 10 Years - Was the B1G Admission Worth it?

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With the #AshEra underway and one recruiting cycle complete, I'm curious if folks would still be happy with the B1G admission, if ten years down the road, Rutgers' Football was never able to get out of the blocks and has become the punching bag of the East? Say, Clemson (ACC) v Indiana (B1G).

While this recruiting cycle provides little to no window into the abilities of our staff to land the jimmies and the joes, it did show that local - lesser-perceived - programs in the ACC can (occasionally) out-recruit the majority of their peers and, at least on paper, provide temporary hope to their fan base. I'm hard-pressed to believe that with a full-share and time to adapt to the big leagues, the tide won't eventually rise for ALL RU sports; but Rutgers' Football admittedly has a particularly difficult path to succeed in the B1G East.

We're football fans first, so given the above - Yes or No?

Go RU!
 
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For the life of me I can't understand why anyone would question the B1G admission? B1G admission was and is the only way RU would survive and have any chance of becoming a viable athletic program. Even if only make it to the level of Indiana or Illinois it was worth it by a long shot.
 
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Give it a rest Gentlemen. The old conference was already on life support and dying. The B1G is alive and well.
VERY similar situation that Arkansas faced in 1992 with the old SWC when we left to join the SEC. Have we won a conference championship? No. Not once.

Have we been rewarded financially? YES. Our take this year is North of $38 million I heard.

We also are starting a $160 million renovation of Razorback Stadium. Not that if is in bad shape at all, but just keeping up with the Jones's.

We both moved into a bigger lake with bigger fish. Give yourselves time to grow!
 
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Piss off ru8081!

Ugh...I said Clemson V (not AND) rurichdog.

Work with me here people. Presuppose for just a moment...or don't. Oy.
 
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Jesus. The B1G is so much more important to Rutgers than a 4-8 record and a recruiting class that didn't live up to fans expectations. I can't believe any reasonable person would even consider any other option.

I quit drinking heavily 20+ years ago but the past 2 days here have me longing for the good old days.....that is if I could remember them.
 
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Southern Gentleman said:
Give it a rest Gentlemen. The old conference was already on life support and dying. The B1G is alive and well.
VERY similar situation that Arkansas faced in 1992 with the old SWC when we left to join the SEC. Have we won a conference championship? No. Not once.

Have we been rewarded financially? YES. Our take this year is North of $38 million I heard.

We also are starting a $160 million renovation of Razorback Stadium. Not that if is in bad shape at all, but just keeping up with the Jones's.

We both moved into a bigger lake with bigger fish. Give yourselves time to grow!
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Give it 5 to 7 years and we will begin to win games against tougher opponents. Believe.
 
RUbacker said:
Give it 5 to 7 years and we will begin to win games against tougher opponents. Believe.
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"It takes time. It is a process. "

Both great cliches and both are true. Let me give you an example. Most recruiting services THIS year had Arkansas ranked between 18-24 in the national recruiting rankings. Pretty darn good I think , yet we are ranked 11th in the SEC this year. 11th!

Bielima has had 3 seasons and we are 11th in our conference. Gotta give Ash and his crew time. This was not a great year for Rutgers recruiting. But, if we get 1-3 solid studs out of it, it won't be viewed as a bad year 3 years from now.

Ever gradual improvement my friends. LSU had a freaking awesome class once again, but the Hogs have won versus LSU 5 of the last 10 years. However, we haven't beaten Bama since Chris Christie weighed 175.
 
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I am a believer in the Big 10, but do not belittle or ridicule the question. We have Illinois and Indiana picking our bones. Absent a tremendous coach, and I think Ash can be, we could look back 20 years from now the way RU BB has looked back on being in the prestigious BE BB conference. Some on this board would ave preferred we landed in the ACC. No one, not even the biggest Big Ten proponent, could have foreseen how the other conference members have made Jersey "their" garden. It is now all up to great coaching to fulfill the promise.
 
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Wow. If we list every game in every sport it would still be worth it. We were dead man walking until the BIG invite. God bless the BIG 10
 
Even if our football program never materializes into what a lot of us want it to be in the next 10 years - the B1G invite was definitely worth it for a lot of reasons. The main one for me personally is we now at least have the opportunity to play with big boys (Mich, Ohio State, etc.) - remember how a few years ago we were all starving for real comp - Ill take potentially getting blown out over blah games any day of the week. Secondly the money and exposure being in the B1G brings to the university is 2nd to none - without getting to long winded the things that both my first and second point bring to the table are immeasurable on a lot of different levels.
 
"a rising tide lifts all boats"

...even if RU will always be a dingy. Would rather be a Indy than a middle of road nobody in a mid major (and we'd be a middle of road program in a mid major).
 
The only amazing thing about this poll that I find interesting, is that as of this posting, there have been "11" NO votes! Talk about ignorance!
 
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Although it's nice we got invited into the B10 I would have preferred the ACC. The ACC would have accepted us with no strings attached unlike the B10... The ACC has a better BB conference and on average a better football conference. I miss playing schools like Pitt, Louisville, Syracuse, UCONN and WV (B12). I would much prefer watching us play FSU, Miami, Georgia Tech or Clemson. We have nothing in common with these Midwestern school. Nothing got my juices flowing like playing the Miami Hurricanes when they were NC contenders.
 
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Op asked a legitimate question. It was a hypothetical. So most here are saying that they'd be happy if the football program over the next 10 years in the B1G performs as the MBB program did for all those years in the BiG East? The premise of the hypothetical was that RU continues to be the punching bag/boy of the B1G eastern division. So most here are saying that they're happy to be in the B1G regardless of whether or not RU gets the crap beat out of it on the field over the next 10 years? And you'll also be happy even though over the next 10 years all the best NJ HS players keep kickin RU in the nuts by signing with the division opponents in the B1G eastern division? The question wasn't about potential or opportunity. The OP projected the assumed outcome of ineptitude and incompetence. Its like saying you'd be happy being seen with the hot babe even though she pulls you around on a leash and makes you lick her boots.
 
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knightfan7 said:
Jesus. The B1G is so much more important to Rutgers than a 4-8 record and a recruiting class that didn't live up to fans expectations. I can't believe any reasonable person would even consider any other option.

I quit drinking heavily 20+ years ago but the past 2 days here have me longing for the good old days.....that is if I could remember them.
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I find the cancer survivor network message board that I am a member of more entertaining and positive than this forum lately.
 
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No, I'd rather stay a dying conference where we get less money and have a lower ceiling.
 
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The ACC has a better BB conference and on average a better football conference.
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Very, very , very few people would agree with you about ACC football being better on average. I'm not even sure i'd agree about the basketball.

ACC football has basically meant one team throughout my life - Florida State. Miami has suffered since joining the ACC, VA Tech hasn't been good in years, and Clemson has often been good only to fold when playing non ACC teams in bowl games.

The ACC may be closer regionally, but I'd much rather be playing schools like Michigan, Ohio State, and Prnn State, than our former Big East foes.
 
If we spend the next 8 seasons without a winning football or MBB season, it might be an interesting discussion but at this point, it is totally worth it.
 
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Op asked a legitimate question. It was a hypothetical. So most here are saying that they'd be happy if the football program over the next 10 years in the B1G performs as the MBB program did for all those years in the BiG East? The premise of the hypothetical was that RU continues to be the punching bag/boy of the B1G eastern division. So most here are saying that they're happy to be in the B1G regardless of whether or not RU gets the crap beat out of it on the field over the next 10 years? And you'll also be happy even though over the next 10 years all the best NJ HS players keep kickin RU in the nuts by signing with the division opponents in the B1G eastern division? The question wasn't about potential or opportunity. The OP projected the assumed outcome of ineptitude and incompetence. Its like saying you'd be happy being seen with the hot babe even though she pulls you around on a leash and makes you lick her boots.
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Sorry, but it was a dumb question.
 
Even if it were just for the academic prestige it would be worth it. I got my MS at PSU in the early 80s, and I couldn't believe the money that rolled in to that campus after they joined the Big 10 in the early 90s. It's not just about football... although I'd love to see RU in a Rose Bowl once in my lifetime!
 
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IMO the question only has relevance if you believe that RU had the option of joining the ACC instead of the B1G. A case could be made (although I would not agree) that the ACC would have been the better fit. However, as I know of no evidence that the ACC was ever a viable option, the decision to join the B1G is a no-brainer.
 
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