Fast Forward 10 Years - Was the B1G Admission Worth it?
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If the OP had framed it as B1G vs ACC it would be a better question. Taking into account income and stability, there's no question the B1G is the best choice. No question - we won the realignment lottery.
Having said that, though, on a pure football basis, it's a close call for me. I love playing PSU, MSU, MD, UM, and OSU every year, but I also loved playing more regional rivals like WVU, Cuse, BC, Pitt and UConn and would've liked playing UVA, VT and some others in the ACC, although these teams don't quite have the cachet of the top B1G teams.
By far the biggest advantage of the ACC would be that most of the away games would be under a 6 hour drive, whereas we only have two foes in the B1G that are that close. I also liked the rivalries we had, although we'll have new rivalries now. Like I said, a close call.
Having said that, though, on a pure football basis, it's a close call for me. I love playing PSU, MSU, MD, UM, and OSU every year, but I also loved playing more regional rivals like WVU, Cuse, BC, Pitt and UConn and would've liked playing UVA, VT and some others in the ACC, although these teams don't quite have the cachet of the top B1G teams.
By far the biggest advantage of the ACC would be that most of the away games would be under a 6 hour drive, whereas we only have two foes in the B1G that are that close. I also liked the rivalries we had, although we'll have new rivalries now. Like I said, a close call.
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all sound points..... Your observations would assume that Pitt and Cuse were invited in 2011 and RU was not reached out to...it is possible that RU was contacted at that time, but rebuffed the invite knowing the big 10 was in the works..... ....we will never know, we just know the end result
gun to the head, I would guess you are probably right.... the lack of a tv network for the acc, while the big 10 had one, seems to be a important part of it all
It would have been a monumental blunder to turn down an ACC invite in 2011, because a B10 invite was in the future. Rutgers wouldn't have know how long a B10 invite would have taken. And having an ACC invite would have put Rutgers in a better negotiating position with the B10 for accelerated buy in, like Maryland got, giving Rutgers much needed cash sooner. At the very least, you call the B10 with the ACC offer in order to get the B10 to move on their invitation. Worst case, you accept the ACC offer, and then move with Maryland from the ACC to B10.
Rutgers was in talks with at least 3 conferences, BTW. But Rutgers ALWAYS had eyes for the Big Ten, it was their dream conference from the very beginning. Rutgers even tried to get into the Big Ten in the late 1980's. Rutgers never want to joined any other conference. It was forced to join the Big East, and be part of AAC. The Big Ten wanted Rutgers for a long time and almost added Rutgers when they went to 12 schools, that is until Nebraska become available and they just could not pass that up. Even after that they had eyes on the #1 TV market in the US. But with 12 schools, they now needed to bring in 2 new schools not just one. Rutgers needed a partner. UND was the 1st choice but they refused to join for football and the ACC gave them a sweetheart deal for their non football sports so they took that. Maryland was the next best choice due to their huge markets and being able to act as a travel partner to both Rutgers and Penn State. Penn State had been begging the Big Ten for travel partners for years (by travel partners, I mean school that are nearby) the ACC had been courting PSU as well. Adding Nebraska sent the wrong message since they were even further away than the other Big Ten schools, LOL. Maryland and Rutgers were the perfect choice not just for the Big Ten but for Rutgers and Maryland as well. Maryland never fit into the ACC despite helping start it. They were always an outsider with no football rivals. Rutgers never fit into the Big East, since that conference was MBB 1st, MBB 2nd and MBB 3rd. Rutgers was not only a football 1st school but they sucked at MMB. One of their best programs, wrestling was never even part of the Big East. it was a piss poor culture fit, The Big East always resented Rutgers and screwed us every chance they got, we were just close to the other schools but that was about it.
Joining the Big Ten was one of the best things to ever had to Rutgers, period.
Joining the Big Ten was one of the best things to ever had to Rutgers, period.
Stop it. Rutgers athletics is less than 2% of the total Rutgers budget. Stop villifying athletics. Athletics has nothing to do with building dorms or labs. Been to Livingston lately to see what they have built there?
The fight at Rutgers never has been and never will be athletics vs academics.
The professor's salaries are 36% of the total RU budget. Why don't you ask them to give back 2% for more lab equipment?
Hawkeye fan here who is glad t o have RU in the Big Ten. Hang in there....with your talent base you will rise with the right coach. As for un-interesting destinations on fb saturdays...reserve judgement on the league till you make it to Iowa City in 2017....it is fun!
Lokking forward to Iowa's visit to RU next season....bumblebees are coming!
Lokking forward to Iowa's visit to RU next season....bumblebees are coming!
True to form, some of you guys offered nothing to the conversation, other than further confirmation that you're the foremost authority on your own opinion.
The poll was presented as a HYPOTHETICAL and, in the name of full-disclosure, I answered yes. The B1G invite is so much greater than the AD. However, I recalled a number of folks questioning whether the football program would have fared better in the ACC and was curious if this still held true; with the presumption that the ACC would have eventually thrown a life-line to RU.
I'd venture a guess that the same folks who were so quick to dismiss the poll, will be the first to bellyache if HCCA and/or the RU AD aren't getting it done.
The poll was presented as a HYPOTHETICAL and, in the name of full-disclosure, I answered yes. The B1G invite is so much greater than the AD. However, I recalled a number of folks questioning whether the football program would have fared better in the ACC and was curious if this still held true; with the presumption that the ACC would have eventually thrown a life-line to RU.
I'd venture a guess that the same folks who were so quick to dismiss the poll, will be the first to bellyache if HCCA and/or the RU AD aren't getting it done.
How do you know Rutgers wasn't offered ? There are a lot of people who think we were offered the ACC but held out for the BIG.
If the ACC landed RU they would have locked up the whole east coast, no question. When they missed out on us, they lost not only the NY market but D.C as well. That is a lot of money lost because of a weak hoops program. I think if the ACC was smart they would have made an exception.
That would have made your team REALLY popular with ACC programs! They still won't even mention the "M word" for the most part, let alone schedule a Terp game.
I'm only half serious, and agree with every word of your post...
