Flood's Presser

[Caliknight]

he says 3 times that the first thing he looks at is the turnovers and valuing the football, then goes on to say that he had no thought to pull Laviano. I get the chopping wood mantra, but sometimes to need to make sure you are using the sharpest axe and chopping trees in the direction that gets you out if the forest, not deeper in it.

There is a lot to correct from today, starting with penalties, but QB play should absolutely be part of it.

 

[scarletrat]

Appears to me he is playing favorites.

The 2 plays Chris had today, the duck and chuck that should have been intercepted in the end zone, and then when he fumbled the ball. Either at legit programs get you yanked. He had both in same game.

Also, tired of same stuff plaguing Flood teams. Penalties. Bad pass defense.

We only scored 20 points on offense. Less than Portland state against Cougars.

Yes I have had no patience for flood.

 

[Caliknight]

He claims Laviano was throwing the ball away on that fumble. between that and that horrible attempt to throw it out if the end zone which should have been picked, Flood needs to look closer at what he is seeing.

 

[RutgersSam]

Flood also said the most penalized teams are the most successful, which he had also said before. He probably found some stat correlating wins with penalties. All this means to me is that as long as they don't cost TDs, he is tolerant of penalties. He is not a smart man.

 

[OffTheBanks]

I could see this coming a mile away. Flood's now in full Nova mode. Laviano won't come out of the game next week no matter how horrible he looks. Lose the ego and open your eyes, Kyle -- maybe you'll see what everyone else does.

 

[devoted2ru]

My feelings about Flood as HC are kind of like the game today; a roller coaster ride.

While I didn't have any definitive feelings about him being given the job initially, I will admit I wanted him gone after his 1st season at the helm. Over time though, he slowly and steadily won me over and I reached the point where I was really pulling for him to succeed...and still am. -That said, I didn't agree with his decision to name Laviano the starter and I didn't see anything today that made me change my mind.

Flood is a loyal guy and that's an extremely admirable quality. In fact, that's one of several things about him that won me over. But there's a distinct difference between being loyal and having blinders on, particularly when it comes to a position as pivotal as QB. -And if Laviano isn't really getting it done in games and KF simply flat-out refuses to put HR in to see if he can move the team more effectively, then unfortunately for Flood, he might just "loyal" himself right out of a job.

 

[rufeelinit]

They lose next week and CL struggles there would be absolutely no excuse for not starting Rettig against Kansas.

 

[SirScarlet]

Flood also said the most penalized teams are the most successful, which he had also said before. He probably found some stat correlating wins with penalties. All this means to me is that as long as they don't cost TDs, he is tolerant of penalties. He is not a smart man.

You have serious issues man. I don't have a problem with any of the comments in this thread but calling you out as you have an agenda

What he said was that the timing of the penalties was a killer. That the 2 calls took 14 points off the board (which btw let's not get into that here but this crew crippled us)

What he said was that SOME the most penalized teams are the most successful. He did not say that if you are the most penalized you will be the best, which is what you are suggesting

I know you hate the guy due to your obsession with recruiting stars, but at least try and bury the guy with accuracies...

 

[rutgersguy1]

You have serious issues man. I don't have a problem with any of the comments in this thread but calling you out as you have an agenda

What he said was that the timing of the penalties was a killer. That the 2 calls took 14 points off the board (which btw let's not get into that here but this crew crippled us)

What he said was that SOME the most penalized teams are the most successful. He did not say that if you are the most penalized you will be the best, which is what you are suggesting

I know you hate the guy due to your obsession with recruiting stars, but at least try and bury the guy with accuracies...

I didn't like his comment on the penalties too. Yes some teams that are penalized can be successful but how often does that happen. The Raiders of old stick out to me but the Raiders of more recent times get killed by them. I don't pay attention to the most penalized teams and how successful they are but are they teams with generally more talent or play a style that more easily can overcome them? I don't think we're either.

My problem with that comment is that seems too nonchalant about penalties in general. Same way I don't like the way he nonchalantly uses time outs rather than preserve them. When you're nonchalant about it, to me it leads you down the wrong road and it goes from being just "every day" penalties to penalties that kill drives, bring back big plays, bring back TDs etc.. also leads to lack of attention to details.

 

[kupuna133]

he says 3 times that the first thing he looks at is the turnovers and valuing the football, then goes on to say that he had no thought to pull Laviano. I get the chopping wood mantra, but sometimes to need to make sure you are using the sharpest axe and chopping trees in the direction that gets you out if the forest, not deeper in it.

There is a lot to correct from today, starting with penalties, but QB play should absolutely be part of it.

I get to my seat in time to watch the early warm ups. To say lavianos arm strength is suspect is putting it mildly. He may be able to get the ball down field but it doesn't arrive in a timely manner. Where as rettig gets the ball down field in a hurry. Wait until this team sees competent dbacks because Novas INT record will fall with the lazy cross field and down field throws laviano makes.

 

[RU4Real]

This is the extension of a longstanding dysfunction that I don't understand.

Schiano was the same way.

Any running back (except Ray Rice and maybe Brian Leonard) could fumble the ball once or twice, wind up in Schiano's doghouse and eventually put on a URI uniform.

Why? Because Schiano, like Flood, would constantly preach ball security, turnovers wouldn't be tolerated, etc.

Yet Gary Nova could throw 5 interceptions in a game and never see the bench.

It looks like Flood is displaying this same logical disconnect.

It seems inexplicable.

 

[mikefla]

I agree with RU4REAL...I dont GET all the excuses Flood makes (and Schiano made)for "their" QBs...that RBs never got.......

After the sideline pass/fumble Laviano should have been yanked........"Linguini arm" was looking pretty lost LOL

 

[Knightmoves]

They lose next week and CL struggles there would be absolutely no excuse for not starting Rettig against Kansas.

I don't disagree but I believe that Laviano has a lot more rope than that from Flood. IMO the best that Rettig fans can expect is for him to replace CL in the 2nd half of a game after CL has struggled for at least a few games in a row.

While many RU fans thought we'd see HR warm up before the 2nd half yesterday I doubt that thought ever crossed Flood's mind. Laviano has a full commitment from his HC IMO. It will take a number of poor performances in a row for Flood to yank him.

 

[ru75]

dumb comment on penalties.

 

[RuSnp]

he says 3 times that the first thing he looks at is the turnovers and valuing the football, then goes on to say that he had no thought to pull Laviano. I get the chopping wood mantra, but sometimes to need to make sure you are using the sharpest axe and chopping trees in the direction that gets you out if the forest, not deeper in it.

There is a lot to correct from today, starting with penalties, but QB play should absolutely be part of it.

I could maybe understand starting Laviano next week if Rettig had been the one suspended. With everything going on it would send a strong message. But that's not the case. Laviano was the guy suspended, has the weaker arm, and just made some really poor decisions that cost us a very winnable game.

It is sad that I have no faith the right decision will be made here.

 

[ru75]

He is starting to remind me of poppa smurf

 

[greenknight]

I don't disagree but I believe that Laviano has a lot more rope than that from Flood. IMO the best that Rettig fans can expect is for him to replace CL in the 2nd half of a game after CL has struggled for at least a few games in a row.

While many RU fans thought we'd see HR warm up before the 2nd half yesterday I doubt that thought ever crossed Flood's mind. Laviano has a full commitment from his HC IMO. It will take a number of poor performances in a row for Flood to yank him.

Think we would have seen that happen if not for the field goal before half time

 

[lighty]

This is the extension of a longstanding dysfunction that I don't understand.

Schiano was the same way.

Any running back (except Ray Rice and maybe Brian Leonard) could fumble the ball once or twice, wind up in Schiano's doghouse and eventually put on a URI uniform.

Why? Because Schiano, like Flood, would constantly preach ball security, turnovers wouldn't be tolerated, etc.

Well... in Schiano's defense, he gave leeway to two guys that had NFL careers. Flood gives leeway to guys that won't play on Sundays. Big difference imo.

Arm strength isn't everything, but I don't understand what it is about Laviano that made Flood think he had to name him the starter. I could understand playing both in the last game and then making a choice, but all signs point to the coach naming the starter BEFORE the season began. Does Laviano look great in practice? Does Flood really believe one guy knows the playbook better than the other?

Maybe one of the problems RU has had in the past decade is thinking the QB needs to know the entire playbook. Maybe we just need a guy that can make plays and grow with the playbook as the season progresses. I mean, who cares if you know all of the plays if you can't make them?

 

[fg7321]

Rettig will get a shot after 1-2 blowout losses and sadly they are coming. It will be interesting to see how Rettig performs against Ohio St. MSU & Nebraska's 2nd and third team.

Don't think Flood goes to Rettig vs. PSU if things get out of hand. In one way I see that he wants to build up Laviano's confidence. At what point though does that start to hurt the team and also kill Rettig's confidence?

Also how do we expand recruitment if its perceived by players form outside the "State of Rutgers" that you will get a fair shot of playing if its perceived that the hometown kid is the favorite.

 

[ru75]

He had an excuse to name R starter when L screwed up off field and had an excuse to yank L when he was limping. He tries to do the right thing but his fuzzy logic is annoying the rest of us smurfs

 

[RCTrooper]

Rutgers had the mantra that "the ball is the program" and that the players should never let it touch the ground; in practice or in the games ( that's why RU players alway give the ball to the refs after TD). Apparently, players were dropping the ball all week in practice.

This program is losing the principles that brought it success:
- have a good head on your shoulders
- be disciplined in your play and in your approach to college life
- the ball is the program

I had to rewatch the game on TV after I got home to confirm what I saw in the game: repeated confusion from the back 7 on D. Just very little on field discipline.

 

[RU#1fan]

You have serious issues man. I don't have a problem with any of the comments in this thread but calling you out as you have an agenda

What he said was that the timing of the penalties was a killer. That the 2 calls took 14 points off the board (which btw let's not get into that here but this crew crippled us)

What he said was that SOME the most penalized teams are the most successful. He did not say that if you are the most penalized you will be the best, which is what you are suggesting

I know you hate the guy due to your obsession with recruiting stars, but at least try and bury the guy with accuracies...

You are missing the point sir. Flood does not appear to have any sense of urgency on acknowledging OR more importantly correcting the continuedPenalties that we have every year. This lack of discipline by KF is now reflected by his team and their play.

 

[Bagarocks]

Yea yea yea Flood shoulda RIPPED Laviano and dragged him through the coals at the post game presser as all great coaches do!
Get the next guy in there...
Have heard all this junk before haven't we? Jabu, Dodd, ect. ect. ect.
Lavainos First start, What did ya ll expect him to be equal to a seasoned veteran of 25 starts? sheesh!
He needs just as much experience playing as the other guy. What are all of you error free in yer everyday employment? if many of you weren't given a chance to learn from your mistakes at your employment you all would be unemployed under your logic. Let the kid grow a little, see how he rebounds from this week. WSU's QB sure did! Why cant Laviaono?

 

[lighty]

"Have heard all this junk before haven't we? Jabu, Dodd, ect. ect. ect."

Jabu was never in a neck and neck competition to win the starting job. This is a different situation.

 

[SirScarlet]

You are missing the point sir. Flood does not appear to have any sense of urgency on acknowledging OR more importantly correcting the continuedPenalties that we have every year. This lack of discipline by KF is now reflected by his team and their play.

I am not ready to say that yet. I wanted Rettig to start the 2nd half for exactly the reasons you mentioned but I thought Laviano had a great 2nd half.

He's a brand new qb and we are going to need to live with his growing pains.

There is no way we lost the game cause of him. No way. He made some very good plays and decisions in the 2nd half.

Look...at the end of the day, this all sits at the feet of the HC...I get that and agree. But let's agree that the horrendous tackling and missed int oops (don't forget Austin and Cioffis int drops) also had a major impact.

And don't get me started on the refs. They had a HUGE impact on the game. huge

 

[BigLou]

dumb comment on penalties.

I have to agree. Winning teams do not have touchdowns called back for penalties.

 

[Wutevah]

This is the extension of a longstanding dysfunction that I don't understand.

Schiano was the same way.

Any running back (except Ray Rice and maybe Brian Leonard) could fumble the ball once or twice, wind up in Schiano's doghouse and eventually put on a URI uniform.

Why? Because Schiano, like Flood, would constantly preach ball security, turnovers wouldn't be tolerated, etc.

Yet Gary Nova could throw 5 interceptions in a game and never see the bench.

It looks like Flood is displaying this same logical disconnect.

It seems inexplicable.

I don't think we ever happy with out back up qbs, while we always seemed to have a stable of rbs.

 

[NotInRHouse]

The minute Fridge is gone the QB situation goes to crap, just like the minute Smith leaves, the D collapses. Anyone notice a pattern here?

 

[Caliknight]

"Have heard all this junk before haven't we? Jabu, Dodd, ect. ect. ect."

Jabu was never in a neck and neck competition to win the starting job. This is a different situation.

I'm accepting of growing into the job. Retting will need to do that. What is questionable is not believing that his arm strength will get better and that decisions that were made will get better. That attempt to throw out of the ball out of the end zone, if that's what it was, tells me he doesn't have a solid grasp of his skills. That was a high school play. But hey, he sat for two years watching Nova do that with no repercussions, so why wouldn't he do it?

Rettig played well enough in a game to earn more opportunities. He clearly has a bigger arm. Flood is over thinking it. Few coaches wouldn't have had Rettig warming up.

Flood in his press conference said he never even considered putting him in. That is scary.

 

[MS-RU]

It's concerning how stubborn he is..that's not a good trait. Coaches cant be emotional and make irrational decisions but they have to be flexible. Flood's and even Schiano super stubborn ways havent gotten us over the hump. We need to rid ourselves of this coaching tree and big in some fresh blood that will take risks and adapt.

 

[jsol_05]

Yea yea yea Flood shoulda RIPPED Laviano and dragged him through the coals at the post game presser as all great coaches do!
Get the next guy in there...
Have heard all this junk before haven't we? Jabu, Dodd, ect. ect. ect.
Lavainos First start, What did ya ll expect him to be equal to a seasoned veteran of 25 starts? sheesh!
He needs just as much experience playing as the other guy. What are all of you error free in yer everyday employment? if many of you weren't given a chance to learn from your mistakes at your employment you all would be unemployed under your logic. Let the kid grow a little, see how he rebounds from this week. WSU's QB sure did! Why cant Laviaono?

Why I don't think KF should start HR this week I hope that if things aren't going as planned he won't hesitate to put him in. The problems will be the 105,000 fans waiting for us at Happy Valley.

 

[Caliknight]

Flood can't start HR this week, but if Lav starts doing his Nova 13 impression, he should be pulled. Penn has a considerably tougher D. We will find a lot about the QB this week.

 

[KJ_RU]

The penalty comment was probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Any play can lead to a TD...if you're undisciplined players are always making penalties, then eventually a TD will be called back because of it. You minimize penalties so big plays aren't negated. You don't accept penalties as long as they don't negate big plays, you can never know that until the play is over...the more I listen to Flood the more I see him as a bullsh!tter...some of his comments are so far out of left field that I have to believe he knows he is BSing.

 

[koleszar]

I could see this coming a mile away. Flood's now in full Nova mode. Laviano won't come out of the game next week no matter how horrible he looks. Lose the ego and open your eyes, Kyle -- maybe you'll see what everyone else does.

I was hoping he would change his way's with now having two viable options at his disposal. The Nova situation I really believe he had no other viable options other than to ride it out. I am starting to believe he is loyal to a fault and plays favorites. I am not totally convinced yet but getting there. Besides that Laviano is going to get someone seriously hurt in the coming weeks with his soft ball. He has no zip on the pass and these are only 10 to 15 yd passes. It is guaranteed we will lose at least one good RB, TE or WR in the next few weeks do to his throws.