Post Mortem by Lion - RU vs #23 Illinois

[RedTeam1994]

1. You are miscategorizing the way i think and i admit to being wrong
2. Sorry, but unless we make the NCAAs was i not right?

Re: 1 - your MO is well established on this board. If you conceded some things on this thread it would be out of character for you (atleast as far your on-board behavior) and perhaps due to fact that’s lions analysis was so well thought out that you’d look foolish to refute it?

Re:2 - no you’re not right

If we don’t make the NCAAs it would not because we have Ace and Dylan it would largely be due to: (1) not getting good enough players to support them; (2) Dylan’s health and injury issues (3) the team not playing good d and rebounding early in the season (causing 2 very bad WTF losses)

In fact the ONLY reason we still have slight hopes for the NCAA is because: (1) Ace (as a young frosh) has found his game and is playing like a future NBA star and (2) Dylan is back, seemingly healthy, and also playing like a future NBA star.

Those two aren’t the reason our chances are slim - quite the opposite - they are , by far, the MAIN reasons we still have a chance (along with additional reasons like improved play by the “others” and improved d and rebounding).

But those additional reasons are minor - without Ace and Dylan playing like future NBA stars we have ZERO chance of making the tourney.

If we have ANY chance it is because of them

 

[PhillyRU]

Bailey is not out of position when he is 2 passes away. .We need a shot blocker, BAD!

We don't have a premier individual shot blocker like Cliff, and his impact went far beyond the # of shots he blocked, but Rutgers currently ranks sixth in the B1G for block percentage in conference games.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

We don't have a premier individual shot blocker like Cliff, and his impact went far beyond the # of shots he blocked, but Rutgers currently ranks sixth in the B1G for block percentage in conference games.

Agree 100%, didnt know we where so high. I would bet Ace has 50% of our confernce blocks

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Wow grant and dortch have high block rates like ace

 

[RuSnp]

Wow grant and dortch have high block rates like ace

Them getting pt has changed our entire defensive outlook.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Them getting pt has changed our entire defensive outlook.

To the eyeball yes. From raw data looking at points scored per possession no.

Which is right?

Open ended question.

Pike is using the data because Martini is out there lately at crunch time.

I dont know what to think.

I do know dortch and grant screw up a lot of switching

 

[lion1983]

To the eyeball yes. From raw data looking at points scored per possession no.

Which is right?

Open ended question.

Pike is using the data because Martini is out there lately at crunch time.

I dont know what to think.

I do know dortch and grant screw up a lot of switching

Cannot speak to the data. I think Grant and Dortch help a LOT with rebounding, at least. And Grant CAN hit the 3, despite the last couple of games.

Separately, to another comment, in re blocked shots ... Per 40 minutes (FYI, Bailey has 22 blocked shots in Big 10 play, of RU's 47):

Bailey: 2.14 block/40 in Big 10, 1.65/40 overall
Grant: 1.57 blocks/40, 1.43/40 overall
Dortch: 2.22 blocks/40, 2.22 overall (only Big 10 games)
Harper: 0.93 blocks/40, 0.70 overall

 

[Vlife]

Per the highlights, it was absolutely JWill (not JMike or Harper) who assisted on Martini's three.

Yes. At about the 2:03 mark this video shows it was JWill

 

[seansherm]

Yes. At about the 2:03 mark this video shows it was JWill

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That does look like JWill to me

 

[richthedentist]

To the eyeball yes. From raw data looking at points scored per possession no.

Which is right?

Open ended question.

Pike is using the data because Martini is out there lately at crunch time.

I dont know what to think.

I do know dortch and grant screw up a lot of switching

So does Somerville but when Grant and Dortch were in there together we had a large rebounding edge in the game at that point

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Cannot speak to the data. I think Grant and Dortch help a LOT with rebounding, at least. And Grant CAN hit the 3, despite the last couple of games.

Separately, to another comment, in re blocked shots ... Per 40 minutes (FYI, Bailey has 22 blocked shots in Big 10 play, of RU's 47):

Bailey: 2.14 block/40 in Big 10, 1.65/40 overall
Grant: 1.57 blocks/40, 1.43/40 overall
Dortch: 2.22 blocks/40, 2.22 overall (only Big 10 games)
Harper: 0.93 blocks/40, 0.70 overall

The same data also says Ace is fine defensively relative to the other non Martini big men……so……..

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

1st 6-7 defensive possession Ace was very aware where his man was off the ball. His head was snapping back and forth…

I think the staff gives ace the ability to go all out and over commit as help guy thinking/hoping the penetrator cant get a pass through Aces long arrms.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

i hate when a helper is one step from being in a position to stop penetration and either watches or swipes.

I see too much of this (not an Ace criticism, team one)