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This just seems weird to me. When do the kids get a chance to breath?
This just seems weird to me. When do the kids get a chance to breath?
Grading players on everything?
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it may seem bad on one hand, but it also makes them accountable for everything they do, which the program needs. Last year there were trash talking Michigan while getting embarrassed. Showing up is not good enough anymore. We won't be seeing kids fail dance appreciation or out robbing people under this coach. Everyone is accountable.
IIRC Schiano's kids had to carry a "log book" with them and, literally, "account" for EVERY minute of their day(s).
@AreYouNUTS you are correct. the log book had every second of every minute of every day logged.
I like the grading. it creates accountability and it creates competition. competition drives you to work harder. Working harder is what is going to get us to Pasadena one day
I like the grading. it creates accountability and it creates competition. competition drives you to work harder. Working harder is what is going to get us to Pasadena one day
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Yup if you want to change culture and quick you grade on those things that are important to the change in culture.
As a coach/mentor/manager its your opportunity to hold people accountable. Its a way to measure and ensure the folks reporting in to you are moving in the right direction and are in alignment with the culture you are enforcing.
This is a very good thing, like others said it was done before and will need to continue in order for the program to move in the right direction.
As a coach/mentor/manager its your opportunity to hold people accountable. Its a way to measure and ensure the folks reporting in to you are moving in the right direction and are in alignment with the culture you are enforcing.
This is a very good thing, like others said it was done before and will need to continue in order for the program to move in the right direction.
Yeah, I can see where everyone would hate to have that kind of culture around the program.
A friend of mine, who was a Sergeant in the U.S.M.C. before getting into IT, used to say: "They only respect, what you inspect."
This is the case here.
This is the case here.
Yeah, I'm sure it's not something I would want to put up with so much, but that doesn't mean it isn't effective. I said on another thread somewhere, the culture change that Ash is bringing in isn't designed for the top kids, the kids who were doing everything they could before, it is designed for the 2nd and 3rd tier kids. Maybe they were working hard, but not quite as hard as they could, maybe some were not working all that hard at all.
It's not fun, but it is likely effective.
Do they have to keep a log of license plates in the Hale Center lot?
Guys like AD hated Schiano's micromanaging and loved the buddy buddy atmosphere of Flood. I am by far one to bash any of our coaches as many of you know but Schiano kept these kids out of trouble. That is as far as I will go but read between the lines.
When do these kids get a chance to breathe you ask above? They do not. That is why I laugh when someone says "they are getting a free ride." Free my A$$. This is harder than any job I know of, hands down. NFL players have it MUCH easier than college kids. They work VERY hard at Football but that is it. These kids have school and Football. Very demanding.
When do these kids get a chance to breathe you ask above? They do not. That is why I laugh when someone says "they are getting a free ride." Free my A$$. This is harder than any job I know of, hands down. NFL players have it MUCH easier than college kids. They work VERY hard at Football but that is it. These kids have school and Football. Very demanding.
This is harder than any job I know of, hands down. NFL players have it MUCH easier than college kids. They work VERY hard at Football but that is it. These kids have school and Football. Very demanding.[/QUOTE]
Well . . . not so much at UNC.
Well . . . not so much at UNC.
I support this philosophy completely.
First of all, everyone is getting instant feedback..
Secondly everyone is being held accountable. Slackers will soon be known to everyone.
Thirdly they are being evaluated in detail, and executing the details is key to success.
Fourth Coach Parker is using both positive and negative feedback to encourage them to produce.
As an aside, any teacher who tried to execute this kind of approach would be quickly let go - because the helicopter parents of the lower performing students would come swooping in to complain about their child's efforts being unfairly posted for everyone to see.
I think this Coach Parker has a chance to be really special. It is too early to know for sure if he will be able to execute his vision 100% effectively, but it looks really positive from my perspective.
I also love the values they are emphasizing.
First of all, everyone is getting instant feedback..
Secondly everyone is being held accountable. Slackers will soon be known to everyone.
Thirdly they are being evaluated in detail, and executing the details is key to success.
Fourth Coach Parker is using both positive and negative feedback to encourage them to produce.
As an aside, any teacher who tried to execute this kind of approach would be quickly let go - because the helicopter parents of the lower performing students would come swooping in to complain about their child's efforts being unfairly posted for everyone to see.
I think this Coach Parker has a chance to be really special. It is too early to know for sure if he will be able to execute his vision 100% effectively, but it looks really positive from my perspective.
I also love the values they are emphasizing.
From a business process perspective, I've frequently heard "if it isn't audited, it isn't done".
Similarly in our business we've used "what get measured, gets done." If you're not holding someone accountable and/or incentivizing them for a certain action, they're probably not performing that action.
When they become adults. If you want to call them kids, then expect them to be treated like "kids." And, "kids" do not decide anything! Can't have it both ways.
I don't think this is a good idea. Airing personal stuff that any stranger or potential employer can see. I don't like it. It puts players at a disadvantage.
I Hope the asst. coaches are being held to the same standards when it comes down to recruiting. If they don't get the athletes in here,none of this stuff will matter.
What stranger or potential employer is going to have free access to the Hale Center?
If RutgersAl can wonder in any time he damn well pleases i'm sure NFL scouts and other riff raff can sneak in too to get weekly player "updates".
If it is only viewable within the team, that is fine. But since it's viewable by people outside the team, I feel that it crosses a boundary.
BTW can grades for the football coaching staff also be published like this for everyone to see (starting with their performance for the 2016 recruiting season, I'd give them a 2 for that)? It's only fair...
I wonder how many on here would like their annual performance reviews (April is just around the corner...) posted on the company bulletin board for all to see and judge. In my opinion this is just going to lead to a lot more player hostility and stress. Not healthy.
I wonder how many on here would like their annual performance reviews (April is just around the corner...) posted on the company bulletin board for all to see and judge. In my opinion this is just going to lead to a lot more player hostility and stress. Not healthy.
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Impressed so far with what I read about Parker.I hope the new training not only leads to a stronger team, but to less injuries. How has Ohio St. fared the last couple years in the injury department? I hope better than the average around college football, and I sure as heck hope better than Rutgers has.
Sorry to stray off topic a bit, but being a scholarship college football player isn't some incredibly difficult thing. It's one of the best deals these kids will ever get and that's why 99% of them accept the scholarship. If it were that grueling and difficult, a lot more guys would pass - not the case.
And NFL guys would play for 100k/yr...
(I played college ball- it's tough and you get crushed in workouts, but it's become such a factory at all levels that the athletes are entered into the machine and spit out 4 years later with a degree. The program does the work...)
Earlier last week we had a similar type of thread when Ash called out the team for quitting last year. I called it a motivational tactic. Clearly this grading thing falls into the same category. It is a motivational tactic. The purpose of using tactics like this is that they do not work with all players. If they did motivating players would be easy. It seems to me that this staff wants the type of player that responds well to this type of treatment. Those that don't like it or don't respond well can move on.
You must have stopped reading early in that thread. Not that I blame you (you clearly made a better choice than I did).
Big boy program. About time!
Losers need not apply.
Losers need not apply.
God damn there are some sensitive sallies in here reacting as if they were made to go through the gruelling program.
Only if these fans could've been "fired" along with Flood.
Only if these fans could've been "fired" along with Flood.
The Ash haters really have to stretch for complaints :joy:
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