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I know in my head that those numbers will fall -- and fall quickly -- when we get into league play, but I'm still loving it. Says a lot about what Coach stresses and what he thinks is important -- and how his players respond to it. A terrific sign.
we are ahead of UNC by a decent margin......CT CT and FDU are bad DREB teams. This statistic tells me 2 things
1. We are doing a great job offensive rebounding
2. We are doing a terrible job shooting (defense play zone against us which is an easier defense to OREB against.)
For most teams the OOC. schedule is easier than the in conference schedule so maybe everyone's numbers will fall
If we keep shooting 30% we have a shot at keeping the number up. Coach did say after 1st or 2nd game that he wouldn't mind dropping in the offensive rebounding rankings if it was due to more balls going in.
the stat doesnt look at total offensive rebounds...it is (OREB)/(OREB + opponents DREB). When we miss a shot we have a 46% chance of getting the rebound.
there is the average P5 OOC and then there is the RU 2016 OOC schedule.....Knight and Day!
I would prefer if we had less offensive rebound opportunities.
Amen! Love the new coaches and the fresh start, but there probably is not a weaker P5 OOC schedule in the nation - and it's not even close!
I think Pike said in an earlier press conference that offensive rebounding is both good and bad.... good because you get second chances, but bad because it means you missed your first chances. Would rather have fewer total offensive rebounds while keeping the same offensive rebounding percentage.
This OOC was exactly what the program needed. Once the program improves, so should the schedule.
No reason to be 4-9 OOC with a struggling program - build a little momentum
Confidence is a big factor for a younger team with a new coach. It shows them that what the CS preaches and they practice works and it's completely different from last year. It's a strategy thing and there is plenty of energy on the court.
i am on to a new and exciting stat now that a poor offensive rebounding day moved us down to #2
We are #4 in the country in 2 point FG% against 38.2%
If that isn't sexy enough you may prefer....
#13 in defensive block percentage (we block 16.9% of our opponents shots.
#31 in defensive FTA/FGA (we don't foul people)
#13 in defensive effective fg%
One stat I feel guilty about...we are 323rd in ft% defense. Our opponents are shooting 75.2% from the line against us. I need to make more noise
We are #4 in the country in 2 point FG% against 38.2%
If that isn't sexy enough you may prefer....
#13 in defensive block percentage (we block 16.9% of our opponents shots.
#31 in defensive FTA/FGA (we don't foul people)
#13 in defensive effective fg%
One stat I feel guilty about...we are 323rd in ft% defense. Our opponents are shooting 75.2% from the line against us. I need to make more noise
CCSU also beat Hartford a few weeks ago by 15 points. Transitive property didn't exactly work out in this case...
Penn State lost to Albany, Pitt to Duquesne and Ohio State had bad loss yesterday. We are winning the games we should.
Glass half empty comment ... don't forget we were the worst B1G team in the conference and at the bottom ofD1 basketball... these are teams we also struggled against at times last year ... Clearly we are a far better team this year based on how well we're playing not how poor our competition has been.
Yeah, I guess.
I do like how the team works hard and cohesively on the court though. They crash the boards and try to work on defense. They try to move the ball. They worked the traps well against Miami, and in many locations on the court.
But when the competition steps up, I'm concerned that the losses will mount. So long as they aren't Eddie-type losses, and maybe they grab an unexpected one or two at home, and maybe, just maybe one on the road against a bad B1G team, I'd be happy. But, as you suggest, they have to show me.
Then we have to recruit.
First of all , there are no bad Big 10 teams, some are better than others and have equal to better talent than we do. However, what you are missing is that defense and I mean pressure defense disrupting the other team from running whatever it wants on offense , as well as rebounding by everyone including our guards , are occurring and that gives you a chance to win every game. We have to shoot better and hit more than 2-3 threes per game as well. It we hit about 6 per game and continue the defense and rebounding , you will be converted . Kinda like a front runner . Just try to be more half full than half empty. It will improve your health.
This is a bit silly. Rather than getting into a back and forth addressing why, let's just go back to how it goes when they get to the B1G.
We are almost certainly going to lose the majority of our remaining games. In fact, we could lose the majority of our remaining games and still finish 18-13. So "the losses will mount" to a certain extent, even if we're performing above expectations.
I'd like to think we can get 4 B1G wins and at least put a scare into one of the better teams in the conference. That could conceivably put us at 15-16, which would tie the most wins we've seen since Gary Waters left and give us a great foundation to build from next year.
We have to make our presence at the RAC known.
It gives the team a big lift. The spaceship.
It gives the team a big lift. The spaceship.
I do not think we are certainly going to lose 3 of the next 4 . That leaves the 18 game Big 10 schedule . I believe we are most likely or as you say "almost certainly " going to lose 6, Wisconsin away, Michigan State away, Indiana away,, Maryland away, Purdue away, and Northwestern away. The other 12 games are in play , we could win or lose. To say we are almost certainly going to lose the majority of our games gives little credit to the players or this coaching staff .
There are 22 remaining games. Winning 11 of them is not impossible (which is why I qualified with "almost"), but the odds are very very long to achieve that result. I'm sure Vegas would happily take your money if you wanted to wager that we'll win 11 of our next 22 games.
Just going on the assumptions you've made... win 3 of the next 4... lose 6 of the remaining 18... that'd mean we'd need to win 75% of the remaining 12 games that you are saying are "in play" to reach .500
As I said, that's not impossible, but the odds of us finishing 19-12 this year (which is what going .500 the rest of the way would give us) are very very low.
Still, we don't know what this team is really capable of yet, if they can start putting together complete performances more consistently, and if they can find their outside shot. We'll have a much better sense of what the rest of the season looks like once we get a little past the half way point. The first 5 B1G games should tell us a lot (@Wisconsin, PA St, @MSU, @Iowa, Northwestern).
Keep n mind going 8-10 in the Big is not almost impossible as you declare . Home games against Penn State, Iowa, Northwestern, Nebraska , Minnesota, Michigan, Maryland and Illinois. Going 6-2 at home with the RAC crowds engaged, based upon what I have seen so far for each of those teams compared to the pieces we possess is not far fetched. I would agree we have to shoot better and 6 made three pointers per game should give us a good chance. Although more likely than not , Wisconsin will beat us at MSG but I think that is a very competitive game and we match up well with them.
That leaves trying to steal 2 road wins at Iowa, at Penn State, or at Ohio State . Unlikely sure but not a long shot based upon seeing all 3 of those teams to date. Yeah they will likely get better as the year goes along but so will we. As they say that's why they play the games. Vegas has no clue what this Rutgers team will do because it is uncharted waters that they have not paid attention to in 10 years.
However, as that downer Willis says, I am proud fully on record.
Going 8-10 will be a tough task for this team. But we can hope.
Of what? An inability to separate rational thinking from rooting, which we all do.
It's highly unlikely that you root harder or louder at football and basketball games than I do, or many others on this board do. We're all fans.
I guess we could all post senselessly optimistic conclusions about the team's prospects even though this is a serious-enough discussion about how the team will perform. I mean, we could all be RutgersAl if we want. But in doing that you forfeit your "take this guy's opinion seriously" card.
If, on the other hand, you are trying to provide objective analysis, then drop the "proud" and "jump on the band wagon" silliness. It's irrelevant and goofy. If this is what you believe, make your point and don't provide yourself some sort of pillow of rooting to fall on when your predictions turn out bad.
I dunno. You're operating from some netherworld that seems weird. So be it.
Yes being optimistic about our team that we root for has not happened around here for ages and you are there to bring all back to reality. Get over yourself. If you knew what was going to happen you would go to Vegas and make your money explode exponentially. But you know crap., Like me you form opinions based upon what you see and know about basketball. Except your opinions are negatively influenced by our past that has been a cluster--- for most of the last 25 years and you refuse to see the depth, the height, the length, the athleticism , the hustle this team plays with. Yeah we might not win more games in conference than what I predict but long gone are the days we get blown out. Your arrogant belief that there is no way my scenario can possibly happen, makes me wonder what type of knowledge you actually possess. Games can be decided by one key bucket or a key steal or a key block or missing 1 open 3 at a critical time . If youThink that is some " netherworld that is weird" , then I suggest you come over to that world. You might see things more clearly
I don't believe that "there is no way that [your] scenario can possibly happen." Never said it. No one did. I think its very unlikely. If you believed what you were saying, you wouldn't feel the need to cloak it with extreme conditions that allow you an out. And you wouldn't feel need to make it personal.
That said, this post is the closest you've come, without all the puffery, to saying that RU will go .500 in the league. Well done. And let the games begin. At the end, you'll have a chance to revisit your analysis and its wisdom
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