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Hall gets a big recruit

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From the former SSR Georgia Republic via Montverde (FL) Academy
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Sandro Mamukelashvili, a 6-foot-10, 220-pound power forward from Montverde (FL) Academy, committed to Seton Hall coach Kevin Willard on Thursday following a visit to the school.
Assistant Grant Billmeier was the lead recruiter.
Mamukelashvili also considered USC, South Carolina, and Vanderbilt among others.

“His upside is tremendous,” Montverde Academy prep coach Kevin Boyle Jr. said. “At his size he has a rare ability to shoot from the perimeter, handle the ball in transition, locate teammates, and
 
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While this seems like a good get for them, the bigger news is they officially missed out on the top point guard recruit in the country, Duval. I think we still have a good shot at them at home next year, depending how our roster shakes out.
 
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They were never getting Duval and I'm fairly certain that Willard knew that. Mamu is a GREAT get. LOVE his versatility and his motor
 
Blows my mind who shu lands good recruits. Im still trying to figure out what their pitch is. That school offers very little
 
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kyk1827 said:
Blows my mind who shu lands good recruits. Im still trying to figure out what their pitch is. That school offers very little
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Lol.

Cmon man! (espn reference)They win basketball games. It's that simple.Sure, some other stuff may be going on. But you will have an easier time recruiting with a 18-12 record than a 12-18.
 
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BoroKnight said:
I can't believe people still dismiss Seton Hall and wonder why people go there. Good conference, basketball is king, they don't suck.

Whining about them playing off campus just doesn't register.
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One person
 
kyk1827 said:
Blows my mind who shu lands good recruits. Im still trying to figure out what their pitch is. That school offers very little
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To reinforce your point you need to rehash your often told story of how no one out in California knew of Seton Hall yet everyone heard of Rutgers even thinking that it was Ivy League. Your act is old and imbicilic.
 
SOSHU said:
If it is me whom you are referring to, this is my board. I am a proud grad of Rutgers/Law.
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That's true. He is a two headed fan. And frankly you are way too sensitive. All he did was call out someone most of you call out. I find the fans here to be good and welcoming. Don't ruin the mixing and sharing.
 
My boy Grant B proving his worth picking up this recruit. Doesn't hurt he played for Boyle.at St. PAT'S
 
Easy to spot certain "fans" who either have an agenda or are really out of touch with the subject matter they comment on. Poster kyk is a good example.
 
kyk1827 said:
Blows my mind who shu lands good recruits. Im still trying to figure out what their pitch is. That school offers very little
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The reason > being close to Bunny's and it's famous Monster Burger and Monster Pizza is a great recruiting tool. [winking]:D
 
The USSR has not existed for 25 years why do writers still think they need to add that former SSR tag to certain countries? This kid was born after Georgia became free so he literally has no attachment to the former. Just a pet peeve of mine.
 
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SOSHU said:
To reinforce your point you need to rehash your often told story of how no one out in California knew of Seton Hall yet everyone heard of Rutgers even thinking that it was Ivy League. Your act is old and imbicilic.
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You got the wrong guy, have never said that
 
Johnny Biggs said:
Easy to spot certain "fans" who either have an agenda or are really out of touch with the subject matter they comment on. Poster kyk is a good example.
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Btw, my great uncle was the AD at SHU, actually grew up going to every single shu game at the meadowland and rooted for the hall. But ive never thought that they had anything going for them, no selling points really
 
BoroKnight said:
I can't believe people still dismiss Seton Hall and wonder why people go there. Good conference, basketball is king, they don't suck.

Whining about them playing off campus just doesn't register.
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Basketball is king for a commuter school where their 90% of their 3000 fans per game are 65+ years old. No campus life there, no real party scene, shitty buildings, play off-campus, and they have not won a tourney game since bush's first term so its not like theyre this dominant winning program
 
kyk1827 said:
Basketball is king for a commuter school where their 90% of their 3000 fans per game are 65+ years old. No campus life there, no real party scene, shitty buildings, play off-campus, and they have not won a tourney game since bush's first term so its not like theyre this dominant winning program
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You been to the RAC lately? Our fans are every bit as old. I'm 43 and besides the student section I feel like I'm one of the youngest ones there.
 
kyk1827 said:
Basketball is king for a commuter school where their 90% of their 3000 fans per game are 65+ years old. No campus life there, no real party scene, shitty buildings, play off-campus, and they have not won a tourney game since bush's first term so its not like theyre this dominant winning program
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RU has much going for itself. So why you need to paint a false picture of SHU doesn't really make sense. You seem to have serious issues with SHU notwithstanding your claims to not have any such issues. You must have had one messed up relationship with this great uncle. Pretty much everything in your statement is false. Certainly you gleaned more from your RU education on making an argument than you bring to this.
 
The only thing we can be sure of is his tickets were free.

Bunny's is good MadHat but was always partial to the Reservoir for pizza.

But it's been awhile so who knows------both always took a back seat to the Star Tavern anyway.
 
RUPartisan said:
The USSR has not existed for 25 years why do writers still think they need to add that former SSR tag to certain countries? This kid was born after Georgia became free so he literally has no attachment to the former. Just a pet peeve of mine.
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Keep peeving

The reference is for folks to recognize that it is not Atlanta Georgia.
 
Seton Hall in recent years has a far better niche as a destination school for basketball than Rutgers.They have recruited more talented players and won head to head competition on the court.Rutgers has a lot of catching up to do to reach Seton Hall's recent success.Coach Pikiell is up to the challenge and a local state rivalry is good for both schools.
 
There's more than enough recruits and every school lands a couple of starting caliber kids every year...it's going to come down to finding the depth and second level players. SHU's recruiting has been actually subpar in recent years, their entire 2015 recruiting class of all 5 players are all out of the program...if that happened at RU, it would make the backpage of every new outlet in the tri-state area on how poorly we have recruited.

SHU is going to land quality players, it's a major conference and everyone lands players (including DePaul and everyone in-between....the key is landing quality 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th players on your roster that can actually contribute....that is where most rebuilds get lost, where everyone only focuses on what the starting 5 is or who scores

Seton Hall has 5 kids from one recruiting class 4+ years ago, with almost all of them starting as freshman....they are now going to be seniors this coming season, but it's not as if they have this stacked roster of depth behind the starters these last 3 years........if anything, they haven't taken advantage of the jump-start, because after this coming season, both RU and SHU's depth charts look painfully thin and will need to be reworked considerably........both programs will need to land about 4 to 5 quality kids each, over the next 6-12 months to fill in for a lot of seniors departing both programs. RU can close the gap considerably this recruiting cycle between both programs in the next year.

Sandro has a ton of upside, when I saw Monteverde at Kean a couple of months ago, he certainly looks the part....he's a scorer, but I don't think he's going to guard anyone with any consistency, so teams will likely isolate him on defense to try and get him in foul trouble OR SHU will resort to playing a lot of zone to hide him defensively....but he's a player they don't have on their roster for this coming season (stretch 4 shooters are deadly), so he could be a wild card of sorts on how he fits in....after those seniors depart, he'll likely be a focal point of their offense. They will need grinders around him to allow him to freelance.
 
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kyk1827 said:
Basketball is king for a commuter school where their 90% of their 3000 fans per game are 65+ years old. No campus life there, no real party scene, shitty buildings, play off-campus, and they have not won a tourney game since bush's first term so its not like theyre this dominant winning program
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Kyk, I am sorry but half of this stuff is irrelevant to a basketball recruit.

It's about winning, chance of going to NBA, playing in front of scouts for as long as possible during year(Winning), style of system, and you know, Willard cooking the mom and dad a nice steak, and throwing in the porsche. Just kidding, a level of that crap happens in most places.

I will say, if you are looking at coaching staff by itself, you pick Rutgers from here on out.

Willard is the better recruiter, but Pikiell is a better coach.
 
And I am not saying that because of my RU bias. I am just saying by looking at how SHU has gone in the past two years. Credit to their big east tourny win, but Willard was behind the ball with Delgado for the past two years. Just made him a focal point this year. He also lets his players do whatever they want, and it causes them to lose a lot. Tons of hero, playground ball with no discipline.

He wins,though. He is not the better coach.
 
And Hawk you just sing the same old song. Hoping you are somehow , someday correct. Tell us all again how the talent level at the Hall and RU are close. Myles Powell, Myles Cale and now Sandro are substantially better than RU's recruits over the last two years.
 
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And Hawk you just sing the same old song. Hoping you are somehow , someday correct. Tell us all again how the talent level at the Hall and RU are close. Myles Powell, Myles Cale and now Sandro are substantially better than RU's recruits over the last two years.
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I would agree with you that Seton Hall is the more talented team in 2017. That is unquestioned, and I do not see that changing with the level of talent available to fill the roster for 2017 at this point. The argument that Pikiell is a better coach is subjective (though I do agree with it). What is a valid argument is that Rutgers' outlook from 2018 on is rosier than that of Seton Hall's. Pikiells ability to develop and retain talent has been proven, and I see no reason for that not to continue moving forward. Willard is not a great in-game coach, and Seton Hall has had great difficulty keeping any talented recruits on campus for more than a year lately (see how the entire 2015 recruiting class is gone).
 
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Keep telling yourself that. It is based on nothing but your anti SHU bias. Let's let some games play out until you can make that statement. So you 're talking about Stony Brook where most of if not all of his success was based on Jamal Warney. Believe me I have seen RU play much harder under Steve than anytime under Eddie Jordan. There is reason for optimism.
 
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Keep telling yourself that. It is based on nothing but your anti SHU bias. Let's let some games play out until you can make that statement. So you 're talking about Stony Brook where most of if not all of his success was based on Jamal Warney. Believe me I have seen RU play much harder under Steve than anytime under Eddie Jordan. There is reason for optimism.
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What will SHU's roster be composed of after this year? There is no depth (as of now), and all of your talent will be graduating. Sandro is a good first piece, but Willard is relying on landing multiple top tier talents in 2018 to maintain the recent success he's had.
 
Hawk, I was more specifically talking about your claim at the beginning of the 2015-16 season. Our 2015 class was not exactly earth shattering but we will be fine moving forward. Also tough to promise kids playing time after the 2014 class. Again they will have 5 seniors returning this year. I guess he kept them on campus.
 
Proff Ed said:
Keep telling yourself that. It is based on nothing but your anti SHU bias. Let's let some games play out until you can make that statement. So you 're talking about Stony Brook where most of if not all of his success was based on Jamal Warney. Believe me I have seen RU play much harder under Steve than anytime under Eddie Jordan. There is reason for optimism.
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I have no SHU bias. Most of the players are from brooklyn, and I am also from there. I support those kids. Basketball is a fun game, no matter what the team.

If you go Pikiell Kevin willards roster in 2017, it is not 21-12. Probably more like 26-7.

If you give Willard Pikiells roster in 2017, it is not 15-18. Probably more like 9-24.

Willard has shown to be a better recruiter. Plays very close to illegal, but is it still legal. Whiteheads coach, etc.

Willard always lets his players do whatever they want. Ball movement is sometimes so bad for the amount of kids that can score on that team. He just doesn't get it through to his players that if they pass, they are a sweet 16 team every year for the past four years. Also, defensively, not there.

I have very little bias. The amount of selfish basketball Kevin Willards team plays with given the much better all around talent is terrible to me.
 
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