Hobbs, Ash, and the OC question

[huskersalways]

I see most of you folks when discussing who Ash should go after that you mention Hobbs being very involved in the decision. Is Hobbs working on the OC hire? I can't believe that Hobbs would have any involvement right now other than to tell Ash what his budget was. I'm doubting Hobbs knows many coaches anyway. Didn't he come from SHU where they don't even have football?(FBS anyway). I would think that Ash would feel micro managed if Hobbs is telling him who he can and cannot interview. If Hobbs is injecting himself into that part of it then one of the 2 of them won't be there long because there will be a power struggle over who is actually running the football program and it isn't Hobbs. AD's who think they can run any of the sports quickly find themselves running a broom at their next job. There are a few football exceptions to this like Alverez at Wisconsin but they are few and far in between.

I think you should hope that Hobbs will simply vet the choice of Ash as far as background check and the other non football stuff after Ash has made his choice. I guess it may be the first test for both Ash and Hobbs in this type of situation.

 

[vkj91]

Hobbs only involvement will be yes or no regarding salary.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I see most of you folks when discussing who Ash should go after that you mention Hobbs being very involved in the decision. Is Hobbs working on the OC hire? I can't believe that Hobbs would have any involvement right now other than to tell Ash what his budget was. I'm doubting Hobbs knows many coaches anyway. Didn't he come from SHU where they don't even have football?(FBS anyway). I would think that Ash would feel micro managed if Hobbs is telling him who he can and cannot interview. If Hobbs is injecting himself into that part of it then one of the 2 of them won't be there long because there will be a power struggle over who is actually running the football program and it isn't Hobbs. AD's who think they can run any of the sports quickly find themselves running a broom at their next job. There are a few football exceptions to this like Alverez at Wisconsin but they are few and far in between.

I think you should hope that Hobbs will simply vet the choice of Ash as far as background check and the other non football stuff after Ash has made his choice. I guess it may be the first test for both Ash and Hobbs in this type of situation.

Who is saying that Hobbs is part of the decision-making team? I highly doubt that he has anything to do with it OTHER THAN the budget (EDIT: and, obviously, the vetting process...).

 

[PaKnight]

Who is saying that Hobbs is part of the decision-making team? I highly doubt that he has anything to do with it OTHER THAN the budget.

There were some posters who were saying that Hobbs is involved.

 

[FanuSanu52]

Who is saying that Hobbs is part of the decision-making team? I highly doubt that he has anything to do with it OTHER THAN the budget.

This has been mentioned a lot. There was a whole post about how Hobbs wasn't at the basketball game and ...maybe interviewing OC, wink, wink, lol, omg!

SN fans are passionate but not always brilliant.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I forgot that the AD has to be at EVERY, SINGLE sporting event lol! This board!

Again, part of it, maybe, but I highly doubt he has anything to do with the choice itself OTHER THAN $$$.

 

[huskersalways]

Who is saying that Hobbs is part of the decision-making team? I highly doubt that he has anything to do with it OTHER THAN the budget.

If you go through some of the threads about hiring an OC there are several posters talking about "Hobbs should tell Ash to go after coach xx" and comments like that. I was/am curious if Hobbs has injected himself of if he thought he needed to be in control of the search? That is all.

 

[Dpgru]

I would think he is involved at some level beyond budget alone. Whoever is hired will be an employee of his athletic department, not just in the football program. I would not be surprised if he has veto power if for some reason he finds a candidate unacceptable to him. I have no idea what his rubric would be but I can't believe he would just give a budget limit and then simply rubber stamp Ash's choice without some input.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I would think he is involved at some level beyond budget alone. Whoever is hired will be an employee of his athletic department, not just in the football program. I would not be surprised if he has veto power if for some reason he finds a candidate unacceptable to him. I have no idea what his rubric would be but I can't believe he would just give a budget limit and then simply rubber stamp Ash's choice without some input.

That would be part of the vetting process, however, Hobbs ain't a football coach.

 

[Dpgru]

That would be part of the vetting process, however, Hobbs ain't a football coach.

Absolutely, I did say that I did not know what rubric he would apply to his assessment of the candidate. Clearly he would( should) let Ash find the person he thinks is the best football guy available. I am simply responding to the posters who said he would have nothing to say about it other than budget. He is the ultimate boss in the athletic department, I can't believe he would simply allow a coach to make a hire with no input at all in the process beyond budget.

 

[koleszar]

Yes there are a few crazies on here. But most of the talk was about budget for assistants. It was only a few uniformed dolts who suggested Hobbs should be involved and inject himself into the search. Don't know how the OP came to the conclusion that Hobbs might be injecting himself into the search.

I heard Nebraska is starting to divert funding away from football to basketball. Because they want to become a basketball school. Are you going to start a thread on my crazy uninformed assumption as well?:confused: I know it's a slow time of year, but jeez man.

 

[NickKnight 1]

If I was Hobbs I would be involved. Ash made the decision to hire the first OC, and see
what happened? Now is the time to grab Ash by the Ash and say WTF were you thinking,
sorry bud, but we will be talking about your next pick.

 

[PaKnight]

If I was Hobbs I would be involved. Ash made the decision to hire the first OC, and see
what happened? Now is the time to grab Ash by the Ash and say WTF were you thinking,
sorry bud, but we will be talking about your next pick.

See

 

[rutgersguy1]

Hobbs only involvement will be yes or no regarding salary.

Agree with this and it's not just Hobbs it's for any AD. I think the most they would do is give salary parameters and that's about it. If anything and that's a big if just a suggestion of "what do you think of this guy?" and that's as far I'd expect and that would only likely be from an AD like Alvarez or Jurich who has some sort of background. I wouldn't expect it from an AD like Hobbs or most other ADs.

I think people think ADs get into all the nitty gritty of every detail in every sport. I don't see that. They're executives and like any executive these kind of matters are dealt with by the people you hire. I expect they're involved in high level matters and if necessary they might drill down further but assistants etc.. is not their wheelhouse and beyond budget and maybe background check I don't expect them to be involved. That's why they hire HCs.

 

[Knight Shift]

I see most of you folks when discussing who Ash should go after that you mention Hobbs being very involved in the decision. Is Hobbs working on the OC hire? I can't believe that Hobbs would have any involvement right now other than to tell Ash what his budget was. I'm doubting Hobbs knows many coaches anyway. Didn't he come from SHU where they don't even have football?(FBS anyway). I would think that Ash would feel micro managed if Hobbs is telling him who he can and cannot interview. If Hobbs is injecting himself into that part of it then one of the 2 of them won't be there long because there will be a power struggle over who is actually running the football program and it isn't Hobbs. AD's who think they can run any of the sports quickly find themselves running a broom at their next job. There are a few football exceptions to this like Alverez at Wisconsin but they are few and far in between.

I think you should hope that Hobbs will simply vet the choice of Ash as far as background check and the other non football stuff after Ash has made his choice. I guess it may be the first test for both Ash and Hobbs in this type of situation.

True story. Hobbs and Ash were seen at the Subway on Easton Ave, poring over the threads on Scarlet Nation. They were laughing so hard, they were asked to leave the premises.
On their way back into the Hale Center, Hobbs was overheard saying:
"Whatever you do, don't listen to those nimrods on Scarlet Nation-what a bunch of losers"

 

[AreYouNUTS]

If I was Hobbs I would be involved. Ash made the decision to hire the first OC, and see
what happened? Now is the time to grab Ash by the Ash and say WTF were you thinking,
sorry bud, but we will be talking about your next pick.

If you were Hobbs you'd rehire Kyle Flood. Let's be truthful here. [cheers]

 

[BlockR]

getting Kill would show RU is serious about competing in B10.another non power five wonder kid is just another low budget move with the hope and prayer it works. last two wonderkids did not..McDaniel and Drew .
Staff needs experience and a ex HC would free up Ash somewhat to work with the defense.
Hopefully Hobbs can get some donors to step up.

 

[knightfan7]

If you go through some of the threads about hiring an OC there are several posters talking about "Hobbs should tell Ash to go after coach xx" and comments like that. I was/am curious if Hobbs has injected himself of if he thought he needed to be in control of the search? That is all.

I think it's nothing more than posters using Hobbs name to show how sure they are that they know what's best for RU.

Hobbs is no dummy but he's no coach either. People should and I believe do understand it's not who he wants, it's who Ash wants. As with any department hire, he'd have to sign off on it but I seriously doubt anything more.

 

[MADHAT1]

I would think Hobbs involvement would be mainly the financial part.
He tells Ash what funds are available for the OC hire and Ash uses that when discussing the job with candidates.
As for telling Ash who to hire, that would show a lack of confidence in Ash's decisions involving who should be on his staff and make for a stained relationship.

Make sure this one is ready might be the most Hobbs has to say to Ash about who is the next RU OC and I doubt that will be said.

Hopefully Ash won't bring in another Mehringer ,but go after candidates with potential but have a few years ( or more) experience as an OC

 

[SkilletHead2]

Depends on what involved means. There is more to the process than a price tag. John O has talked about a twofer possibility with Kill and a younger guy. There is the notion of maybe $450k for a Wright-type hire, but maybe a much higher price tag for a much bigger splash.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Ash and Hobbs are talking these over. Along with other things, like "This guy has a bit of history. If we hire that guy, he wants to bring in two of his own people." I sat next to Fran Lawrence at a dinner once during the hiring process that led to Schiano and he was bemoaning the complexities of the process. He was clearly involved in it.

We have a bit of a history in hiring coaches who didn't turn out well in a spectacular fashion, and others that were minor embarrassments. Is Hobbs saying, "Your call, Chris, just send me the bill"?

Well, nobody has less inside info than me, but this is a pretty high profile hire for us and critical to the biggest fund-generating sport at the University, so my guess is that there have been several heart-to-heart chats and that anybody who gets close to an offer will have an opportunity to participate in the "Meet the AD" program. All guesses, and I think the call is clearly Ash's, but Hobbs will be his partner in making the deal.

 

[bac2therac]

the only thing Hobbs needs to do is make sure that Barchi opens the wallet...other than that its all up to Ash