Don't forget Chris Mullin.Another addition to the great-college-player-turned-failed-college-coach All Star team. Howard joins such luminaries as Clyde Drexler, Patrick Ewing, and RU's own Eddie Jordan.
Don't forget Chris Mullin.Another addition to the great-college-player-turned-failed-college-coach All Star team. Howard joins such luminaries as Clyde Drexler, Patrick Ewing, and RU's own Eddie Jordan.
Like what ? All the guys that win resurfaceEh... there are a few things that can get you fired even if you win. But yes in this case he was clearly fired for losing.
Guys he didn’t fail . He had too many things off the court swirling around him and a terrible season was a good reason to make all those problems go away.Don't forget Chris Mullin.
Getting fired and resurfacing eventually is still getting fired. But yes, if you win ALOT you’ll probably land somewhere eventuallyLike what ? All the guys that win resurface
Huh?
He went to the NCAA tourney 2 out of 4 years.
Won the Big Ten one year.
If that's a failure, then you shouldn't read any of the defenses of Pike posts.
Missing the tournament 2 years in a row isn't a failure.
Come on guys. It's all about the situation. He took over a great program and ran it into the groundGuys he didn’t fail . He had too many things off the court swirling around him and a terrible season was a good reason to make all those problems go away.
In 5 years!
3 NCAAtournament elite 8 and sweet 16
NIT berth
Big ten champions
NBA players
All American
Off court got him and right fully so
Yes . He was fired for on the court more than off the court.Come on guys. It's all about the situation. He took over a great program and ran it into the ground
Beilien last season 33-7
19-12
23-5
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Ewing , Mullin ok Failed!Come on guys. It's all about the situation. He took over a great program and ran it into the ground
Beilien last season 33-7
19-12
23-5
19-15
18-16
8-24
Trend... down down down down down
Come on guys. It's all about the situation. He took over a great program and ran it into the ground
Beilien last season 33-7
19-12
23-5
19-15
18-16
8-24
Trend... down down down down down
100% of Michigan fans wanted Howard goneMissing the tournament 2 years in a row isn't a failure. Even the best teams miss the tournament 2 years in a row.
Trending down over the course of 4 years isn't a failure.
At least that's what a bunch of other threadshaver said.
Just trying to apply the same standards across coaches.
Woodson and Howard have been better than us every year of their time at Indiana and Michigan (except UM this year).
People call them huge failures.
But wouldn't we easily switch positions the last 4 years?
100% of Michigan fans wanted Howard gone
100% of Indiana fans want Woodson gone
0% of Rutgers fans want Pike gone
Weird argument you're making
Your argument assumes that context and the name on the front of the jersey don't matter.Because fans are always right?
There are fans who want HC Schiano gone. Are they right?
And I didn't mention Michigan or Indiana fans.
Weird is the argument "HC Pike needs to be excused because even elite teams miss the tournament twice. We've been competitive for 5 years. 4 years of downward results doesn't make him a failure. Can't have high expectations next year either because plenty of teams with elite recruits dont go far in the NCAA tournament.
Woodson and Howard? Oh they are complete failures and we would be lucky if they stayed at their schools."
That's why I think Sean Miller of Xavier will be in contention and a damm good hire.Like what ? All the guys that win resurface
I think miller won’t get any big time offers until he wins againThat's why I think Sean Miller of Xavier will be in contention and a damm good hire.
What happened at Arizona is past history now,and he's a proven winner.
But the Musketeers had a losing season this year and that might keep Michigan from considering him among the first to go after.
This year's record makes your statement on target.I think miller won’t get any big time offers until he wins again
It would be interesting if capel ever moved on (by promotion or demotion) from Pitt. If they go for knight or MillerThis year's record makes your statement on target.
If Miller could have followed up Xavier's sweet 16 appearance in 2022-3 with a 20+ win season in 2023-4 and tourney bid , he'd get a look see.
Since he didn't, you'll get no argument from me
He should have slapped someone this yearDid Pike slap someone? howard is a joke.