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When Willard was on the extreme hot seat at Seton Hall last season, Danny Hurley was being looked at as a potential savior for the program. Ultimately, Willard is now safe and Hurley might be on his way to Rutgers. I have watched his career from his time at St. Anthony to the various coaching positions that he has held. The man is a winner and in my opinion he would be a home run hire. I understand that he has a combustible personality. Frankly, in a controlled context, this is a required characteristic found within many top coaches. If it comes together, his prowess will lead to a complete turn around.
 
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I don't think I would classify hiring him as a home run. However where the program is currently I would be happy with a ground rule double.
 
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That body of work does not get a lot of people excited, especially in the Atlantic 10 Conference. Don't want to hear his best player was injured.
I understand your reasoning here. Willard's record at the time of his hiring at SHU was also quite paltry. However, even with Willard's recent success, I would trade him in for Hurley in a heartbeat. It is only my opinion, yet Hurley excites me as a hire.
 
I understand your reasoning here. Willard's record at the time of his hiring at SHU was also quite paltry. However, even with Willard's recent success, I would trade him in for Hurley in a heartbeat. It is only my opinion, yet Hurley excites me as a hire.
Wow - its quite a statement.

Hurley has a tremendous upside - many refuse to see it
 
Wow - its quite a statement.

Hurley has a tremendous upside - many refuse to see it

Then roll the dice and let's go!! Can it really get any worse!?! It can't, right!?!?!?
 
I understand your reasoning here. Willard's record at the time of his hiring at SHU was also quite paltry. However, even with Willard's recent success, I would trade him in for Hurley in a heartbeat. It is only my opinion, yet Hurley excites me as a hire.
Do you have any reservations about the red flags raised about his temperament and sideline antics? I am not that concerned, but there seemed to be some smoke around the incident with University of Maryland. If this wasn't Rutgers that had the Mike Rice fiasco, this would not be an issue, but this is Rutgers, and some (sometimes me) think we need a person who is a saint to be our head basketball coach.
 
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How can it be worse? We won just one big ten game last year and that was only because they lost most of their starters and were the 2nd worse team in the B1G.

We would be extremely lucky to have him take the job.
 
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Do you have any reservations about the red flags raised about his temperament and sideline antics? I am not that concerned, but there seemed to be some smoke around the incident with University of Maryland. If this wasn't Rutgers that had the Mike Rice fiasco, this would not be an issue, but this is Rutgers, and some (sometimes me) think we need a person who is a saint to be our head basketball coach.
Yes. He has to tone down his act. Sideline antics are always useless in my book. I want the attention paid to the players and the coaching of those players.
 
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That body of work does not get a lot of people excited, especially in the Atlantic 10 Conference. Don't want to hear his best player was injured.


yes it does...to go from 8 to 14 to 23 is how it is done.....17 this year, he lost his likely NBA player to injury and two others later and still finished 17-15.

but you seem to be very naive to what Hurley brings to the job with his knowledge of NJ and his ability to have connections not to mention being able to work easier with Hobbs with facilitiy and vision planning something that a guy who doesnt know that lay of the land here and pitfalls doesnt have

keep hating though
 
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Do you have any reservations about the red flags raised about his temperament and sideline antics? I am not that concerned, but there seemed to be some smoke around the incident with University of Maryland. If this wasn't Rutgers that had the Mike Rice fiasco, this would not be an issue, but this is Rutgers, and some (sometimes me) think we need a person who is a saint to be our head basketball coach.


no proof, all stories, if something happened why did the story disappear, did Maryland do anything, did URI punish him, did the tournament do anything, in fact the tournament released a statement that nothing happened.

the NJ media who can be the biggest pricks if they want are in support of Hurley, no thats not reason to say he should be hired but it does indicate if the Hurley temper issues are not an issue...just seems to be an issue with Hurley haters as some justifcation
 
would be real interested to see the staff he would put together here.
 
yes it does...to go from 8 to 14 to 23 is how it is done.....17 this year, he lost his likely NBA player to injury and two others later and still finished 17-15.

but you seem to be very naive to what Hurley brings to the job with his knowledge of NJ and his ability to have connections not to mention being able to work easier with Hobbs with facilitiy and vision planning something that a guy who doesnt know that lay of the land here and pitfalls doesnt have

keep hating though
No hating here, and will admit, I am naive on the other points you mentioned. This is just a discussion, which is helping me, and likely others, to get comfortable with Danny Hurley. I'm not 100% sold, but getting there if he is the man. But also, do not think it will be the end of the world if he turns us down or we can't reach an agreement. I trust Hobbs will make the right hire.
 
No hating here, and will admit, I am naive on the other points you mentioned. This is just a discussion, which is helping me, and likely others, to get comfortable with Danny Hurley. I'm not 100% sold, but getting there if he is the man. But also, do not think it will be the end of the world if he turns us down or we can't reach an agreement. I trust Hobbs will make the right hire.


the problem is that there will be no perfect candidate here. RU's profile was higher in football despite the Elmer mess and in football you only have 128 jobs. Hoops has 351...In football you can hire top notch assistants to move to a football job, in hoops you dont see that, rarely if ever. Most coaches move their way up the ranks, Hurley seems to be one of those. Do we know if his team was going to make the NCAA this year....well the top player was out and might be worth 4-5 wins so they would be on the bubble somewhere much like Lonergan's GW team who failed to make it this year after high expectations. There are not many guys we can pick. Is Stony Brook's coach so much better than Hurley because he made the NCAA this year and Hurley hasnt...its a much lesser program. The plusses for Hurley is that he is from NJ, he knows the recruiting area and his father is a NJ coaching legend, you would have to think these are things that could help...and could help with fundraising as well.

Hurley haters seemed peed off because the Hurleys didnt send their players to RU all that much although Ech, Biruta, Rosario were examples. At the end of the day why should they have taken a chance on RU when RU had an AD like Uncle Bob who clearly drew a line in the sand and said we are going to put all of our money in football and we will not be supporting basketball. Dont be mad a AAU coaches and high school coaches from NJ..they didnt create the abyss that RU admininstration did for years by neglecting the program. When they see a school not interested in supporting hoops they will shun it and even laugh it. So peoples anger toward the Hurleys is better suite towards Uncle Bob who did what he had to do to get RU in the Big 10 but hoops guys dont care about that.
 
the problem is that there will be no perfect candidate here. RU's profile was higher in football despite the Elmer mess and in football you only have 128 jobs. Hoops has 351...In football you can hire top notch assistants to move to a football job, in hoops you dont see that, rarely if ever. Most coaches move their way up the ranks, Hurley seems to be one of those. Do we know if his team was going to make the NCAA this year....well the top player was out and might be worth 4-5 wins so they would be on the bubble somewhere much like Lonergan's GW team who failed to make it this year after high expectations. There are not many guys we can pick. Is Stony Brook's coach so much better than Hurley because he made the NCAA this year and Hurley hasnt...its a much lesser program. The plusses for Hurley is that he is from NJ, he knows the recruiting area and his father is a NJ coaching legend, you would have to think these are things that could help...and could help with fundraising as well.

Hurley haters seemed peed off because the Hurleys didnt send their players to RU all that much although Ech, Biruta, Rosario were examples. At the end of the day why should they have taken a chance on RU when RU had an AD like Uncle Bob who clearly drew a line in the sand and said we are going to put all of our money in football and we will not be supporting basketball. Dont be mad a AAU coaches and high school coaches from NJ..they didnt create the abyss that RU admininstration did for years by neglecting the program. When they see a school not interested in supporting hoops they will shun it and even laugh it. So peoples anger toward the Hurleys is better suite towards Uncle Bob who did what he had to do to get RU in the Big 10 but hoops guys dont care about that.

I have no anger. I am quite dispassionate and somewhat disinterested in hoops. Someone in my office is a longtime season ticket holder, and we talk quite a bit during the season. You made a good point about NJ press being very much for him, including NJ.com. Everything you said makes sense, and it sounds like Danny Hurley would be a solid hire. Let's hope it works out.
 
I have no anger. I am quite dispassionate and somewhat disinterested in hoops. Someone in my office is a longtime season ticket holder, and we talk quite a bit during the season. You made a good point about NJ press being very much for him, including NJ.com. Everything you said makes sense, and it sounds like Danny Hurley would be a solid hire. Let's hope it works out.
If he ultimately gets the position, the local press will be breathtaking in their positive response.
 
When Willard was on the extreme hot seat at Seton Hall last season, Danny Hurley was being looked at as a potential savior for the program. Ultimately, Willard is now safe and Hurley might be on his way to Rutgers. I have watched his career from his time at St. Anthony to the various coaching positions that he has held. The man is a winner and in my opinion he would be a home run hire. I understand that he has a combustible personality. Frankly, in a controlled context, this is a required characteristic found within many top coaches. If it comes together, his prowess will lead to a complete turn around.

Certainly you can't duplicate his post season big dance coaching experience. That will be a real selling feature for recruits.
 
yes it does...to go from 8 to 14 to 23 is how it is done.....17 this year, he lost his likely NBA player to injury and two others later and still finished 17-15.

but you seem to be very naive to what Hurley brings to the job with his knowledge of NJ and his ability to have connections not to mention being able to work easier with Hobbs with facilitiy and vision planning something that a guy who doesnt know that lay of the land here and pitfalls doesnt have

keep hating though

He lost his best player for 6 games. Mediocre hire at best. Never been to the tournament.
 
Maybe bring Cox & Carr back with him and retain Macon. As I said before - hire Mike Rice as DOBO.
Onthebanks- I usually like your posts but Mike Rice as DOBO? I'm not sure Rice would be allowed in the RAC even with a paid ticket. I do think Rice got crucified but in the end he did a lot of damage to the university as a whole
 
Certainly you can't duplicate his post season big dance coaching experience. That will be a real selling feature for recruits.

what, losing to Gonzaga? congrats for winning the mid-major BE; they just saved Nova and the league further embarassment by helping to knock them down to a 2 when Iowa regroups and prevents Nova yet again from advancing to the 2nd weekend. No need for GTown when you have Nova.
 
Have no problem with an animated HC--as long as he doesn't melt down. Gary Williams, who I greatly respected at MD while I was up in Md, was so intense he would sweat through a suit every game. Just didn't lose it. That is my sole reservation about Danny. He had a meltdown freshmen year at SHU, and there has been the odd incident since. Hobbs is way smarter than any of us about the situation, and if he picks Hurley, will be all in with that.
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Billy Donovan never won an NCAA game before being hired at Florida. I seem to recall he won back-to-back championships with the Gators.
This isn't entirely accurate. Donovan was at Marshall for two seasons and had a winning percentage of .636 before Florida hired him.
 
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