If RU beats PSU..
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Not even close... They lost to temple for crying out loud, even beating a crappy Michigan team last year was bigger
I don't know.. winning on the road and the message it would send NJ recruits.
Yes - because of the circumstances. PSU is a bigger rival. Its on the road. The program is flailing. It will make it that much harder for PSU to make a bowl at all.
I could see a case for Michigan being better - as it was earlier, and Michigan is marginally better/under a bigger spotlight.
Maybe for now, but if he can somehow survive the dumpster fire he is currently in, I would consider that the biggest win for him. :boxing:
Temple will likely be in the AP Top 25 next week, they are sitting at 26 right now. At season end, Temple has a decent chance to be in the top 15. Beating Penn State at Penn State would be the biggest win in the Flood era, period.
Especially considering (due a really poor home schedule) this is their biggest home game of the season. RU had plenty of experience on the road though in hostile environments.
plenty of experience? you just joined a major conference last year. so your big away games last year were....at Nebraska, at Ohio State, & at Michigan State?....how did you guys do?
Just saying, 3 games there last year in that kind of atmosphere and hopefully the returners won't have the same jitters.
It wasn't pretty, but I don't think it would have been pretty if those same games were at RU either.
It wasn't pretty, but I don't think it would have been pretty if those same games were at RU either.
Yes!
TTFP
BIG on road in front of 100k
Circumstances surrounding program
Franklin
Team desperate for big win
Recruiting
TTFP
BIG on road in front of 100k
Circumstances surrounding program
Franklin
Team desperate for big win
Recruiting
Yes ... No one is giving RU a chance. It would be a statement game to the toughness of the team, and get the elephant off Rutgers' back (losing streak to Penn State). Expected to beat Michigan last year, this one ... Different expectations.
After the Temple loss, this is a must win for the Nits and when they lose to Rutgers playing Michigan won't seem such a big game.
I would say the chances are low of beating TTFP. Unless Rettig starts which won't happen with old Hard head at the helm.
How did your Nits do last season against:
Northwestern ( home game)
Michigan
Ohio St (home)
Maryland ( home)
Illinois
& Michigan St. ( home)
A loss is a loss no matter what the score is
( oh wait, you have a whine :joy: to use so you can try to excuse those loses)
This might be Franklin biggest game because ALL Penn State fans or the remaining Penn State fans that believe in him will be gone.
Just hope soft head coaches his usual style and Rutgers ( even with "hard-head" ) will have a shot at victory
yyyeaah, we sucked last year....got it......but are you saying Penn State doesn't have any experience (and won) in big games?.....they're a couple i could point out.
I know...I know...you beat Louisville in 2006.
cute emoticon
Meh. Personally, after the Temple loss I am pretty "whatever" about the season already. Seems like it's taking another season to rebuild when everybody expected us to be competitive this year. At this point in the season, Michigan is a bigger game. Not sure how anybody could refute that.
As long as OSU keeps recruiting on a much higher level, nobody else is winning anything in this division, and that includes Michigan. I'll still go to the games as will 80k others. It's the final 25k that sit on the fence. Anything can happen between now and Michigan (which is the week before Thanksgiving break). I've been surprised by the apathy shown T'giving week in the past, but we'll see.
As long as OSU keeps recruiting on a much higher level, nobody else is winning anything in this division, and that includes Michigan. I'll still go to the games as will 80k others. It's the final 25k that sit on the fence. Anything can happen between now and Michigan (which is the week before Thanksgiving break). I've been surprised by the apathy shown T'giving week in the past, but we'll see.
PSU
yes, you will beat us but you paid a coach 4.5 million for fourth or fifth place in the Big Ten East.
Not saying anything except how last season was for the Nits, but you proved my :"oh wait, you have a whine :joy: to use so you can try to excuse those loses" would be something you would use.
Think talking about the past is that whinnying excuse.
Yes RU beat Louisville in 2006, but that doesn't make losing to Washington St. in 2015, acceptable to RU fans.
Nor does it make losing to your Nits last season feel any better.
I won't make an excuse for that or bring up November 6 , 1869 because it hasn't a place in this conversation or part of RU's 2014 season.
Just like the the games Penn St played before 2014 has anything to do with Penn St's B1G losses in 2014 and their loss comming up 9/19/2015 to a team in turmoil right now
You want a "cute emoticon", here's one for you:
uhhh, I didn't say we'd beat you....our OL is terrible....anything can happen.
I just commented on the experience in big games you claimed Rutgers had.....prompting my response, you guys only in a major conf for 1 year w/some pretty bad results in those away games against the big boys.
after the Temple game...yeah, it's raised some doubts if we got the right guy....which is an awful thought. though....the fact is, 2/3rd of our roster are freshmen, RS freshmen, & sophmores.......watching these 2 games...someone gets hurt, and freshmen is coming........so, most rational fans will keep that in perspective. obviously...he's recruiting like crazy....all of "his" kids are brand new.
anywho...Franklin has some length in that leash.....otherwise, what do you want the AD to do?....can him after this year?...lol.
hey....if he sh*ts the bed this year (i'm talking 4-5 wins), and again next year?.....then I think the patience will run out with said over-paid 4.5mm/year salary. then ya know what will happen?.....we'll get the next hot shot with a fully loaded roster.
we'll see.
Michigan will still have been a bigger win. TTFP is perceived down further, considering the Sandusky thing and Temple, and Michigan is a bigger name nationally.
TTFP would be a nice win though.
TTFP would be a nice win though.
Not saying anything except how last season was for the Nits, but you proved my :"oh wait, you have a whine :joy: to use so you can try to excuse those loses" would be something you would use.
Think talking about the past is that whinnying excuse.
Yes RU beat Louisville in 2006, but that doesn't make losing to Washington St. in 2015, acceptable to RU fans.
Nor does it make losing to your Nits last season feel any better.
I won't make an excuse for that or bring up November 6 , 1869 because it hasn't a place in this conversation or part of RU's 2014 season.
Just like the the games Penn St played before 2014 has anything to do with Penn St's B1G losses in 2014 and their loss comming up 9/19/2015 to a team in turmoil right now
You want a "cute emoticon", here's one for you:
excuse the losses?....didn't I say we sucked last year?
1869...yes, the birth place of college football....Rutgers....got it, man
no, uhh...the losses prior to 2014 don't have anything to do with...wait for it....2014......got it!........great discussion, thanks man.
how many Michigan threads are on this board daily?
c'mon man.....sure, beating Michigan or Ohio St will always be huge.......but Penn State.....that's the game you guys want.....even when we suck.....it's still the most important game
ahhhh TTFP.....you guys won't even say our name because you hate us so much....lol
Temple is better (probably significantly) than both RU and PSU this year. That will be clear enough by the end of the season, but for now, people should stop using it as a reference. Had we played them week 1, the result would have been about the same as it was for PSU.
Last week they beat Cinci pretty comfortably, and they were a heavy favorite to win the AAC.
PSU will be the biggest win, not even necessarily for difficulty. This is a huge game for both teams because of the season so far. Franklin will be on the hot seat if he drops Temple and RU in a 3 week span, a lot of the fan base will turn on him, even with strong recruiting.
Flood needs this PSU win to show he can have a decent year, and that the team is not entering a downward spiral. Its a winnable game for both teams, and therefor an extremely important win for both teams.
Last week they beat Cinci pretty comfortably, and they were a heavy favorite to win the AAC.
PSU will be the biggest win, not even necessarily for difficulty. This is a huge game for both teams because of the season so far. Franklin will be on the hot seat if he drops Temple and RU in a 3 week span, a lot of the fan base will turn on him, even with strong recruiting.
Flood needs this PSU win to show he can have a decent year, and that the team is not entering a downward spiral. Its a winnable game for both teams, and therefor an extremely important win for both teams.
There ya go, Rutgers fans.....Maryland Terps......more important than...you know....TTFP...lol
Biggest comeback in the history of the oldest football program in FBS?
More important than beating a .500 team that lost to Temple and beat SUNY-Buffalo, yes.
ahh exactly my immediate thought and posted after reading OP only to see you preceded it.
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