So as I mentioned on Tuesday it looks like we're (very likely BUT you never know...) not going to know anything until Sunday (same for Mich/Iowa/Minny/Neb fans). Sit back, relax, and enjoy the next few days my friends!
Current Bowl Possibilities
- Thread starter Doctor Worm
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Totally agree, this is a new dimension from 4 to 12 that impacts every bowl game waiting for the conference championships. Before it was simply the winner got into the 4 team playoff and the loser got the top bowl game the conference has. Those days are gone. Going to be a fun crazy weekend. A lot can still change!
Anyone else think this is terrible if your non conference wins are crap as an 8-4, and a 6-6 team has a good non conference win.
If this is how it is done , schiano, rhule etc should just be scheduling the wagner’s and council bluffs hs of the world.
IIRC they may have done so due to the unbalanced divisions.
Because the Boca Raton Bowl does not have a B1G tie-in agreement. It was a possibility as an overflow bowl in case the B1G had more eligibles than tie-in slots. That didn't happen.
We won't even fill our our contracted bowl slots this year due to 4 teams making the playoffs.
Who is this NUTSAl ways Lies? A relative of rutgersal? Or the same pychopath on it's 10,000th screen name?
Yup....99.99% sure now that it's the old "TSoprano"....and I'd love for him to find a single thing I've ever spoken on these boards which was done so with the INTENT to lie, manipulate, or otherwise fool my fellow friends/fans/alumni/classmates/etc.. I'm BEGGING you to find me one.
Good luck ya' creepy buddy. Make sure that you FOCUS hard at this task!!!!!
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I don’t know how I feel about it. It’s like you’ve said in different context - you play the games on your schedule and you don’t get a break for scheduling harder. Now if that means playing easier teams because your conference is weak, well that can’t be controlled the way OOC scheduling can. But 6 wins is the requirement for bowl - SOS not withstanding. Even with the hardest possible schedule 5-7 don’t get you in the post season ahead of 7-5 teams who played nobody. SOS matters when your in contention for a play off spot. But the mid / low tier bowls are all a big marketing charade to begin with. 8-4 just looks better on paper than 6-6 so it definitely seems reasonable to favor the team with the better record
Misguided logic. Sure, traveling fans and local tourism revenue matters to the decision but not nearly as much anymore as tv eyeballs and associated sponsor marketing via commercials, media hype etc matter and the way to boost that is to have high profile programs. The way to become that is to play other high profile OOC, not Wagner and Central Bucks West.
This shift is due to bowl sponsorship. Tourism money doesn’t flow to sponsors which pay their bowl teams (then pooled and shared within conferences). It’s not the Rose Bowl anymore. It’s the Honda Rose Bowl or some other name. It’s not a tourism thing anymore. Sponsors want viewers.
Your missing his point entirely. He’s just using that as an example which articulates his comparative point that not every 8-4 resume is better than a 6-6 one.
No, he insinuated it’s better to have an inflated record +2 over a team with better wins and a traveling fanbase to not get leapfrogged in bowl selection.
And I refuted. The way to avoid getting leapfrogged is to be a high profile team with a good record AND good wins, and fanbase doesn’t matter.
Thanks Nuts…I had a dream that UConn and BC were playing in Pinstripe, Nebraska was sent to Rate and RU would be in Detroit last night…really.
Michigan and Iowa to Florida and Nashville, Minny to Mayo, Nebraska to NY and RU to Rate seems the most likely outcome according to
most services. I could see Iowa at Dukes and Minny in Music City as well. But I’d bet dollars to doughnuts Nebraska to Pinstripe at this point…
IIRC after 2025 the contract for the PAC bowl ties ins opens up. I would love to see the B1G snag the Holiday bowl and maybe a permanent tie in with the Las Vegas bowl as opposed to alternating with the SEC on that one. Alamo Bowl or the LA Bowl would not be bad either.
I would like to see the BIG get the Sun Bowl
Did you even read the post that you replied to? It says practically the opposite of this. The post was in response to a comment suggesting there should be a requirement to take the team with the better record. He was presenting a hypothetical scenario where it would be reasonable to select a 6-6 team over an 8-4 team under the current system. Basically - you took the Wagner comment entirely out of context. He wasn’t saying that’s what Schiano should do - he was saying that if there were hard rules in place requiring selection of teams with the best records (which there isn’t) - coaches might in certain situations be more tempted to schedule light. His argument had nothing to do with Schiano’s scheduling - rather he was defending the current bowl selection system.
It’s a fair stance to take. My counter to Plum was simply that a requirement like this would be consistent with the 6-6 bowl eligibility rules which disregard SOS.
I have always liked the sun bowl but not sire if El Paso is easy to get a direct flight to from ewr.
Put Shelby on ignore - you won't regret it.
Can't understand why some great posters here indulge that whale turd in discussion. Broken record of negativity.
So this the new normal?
All bowls will be on hold until after the CCG and final CFP seedings to see if anyone gets left out or steals a bid?
Actually, that's the old normal. It's been that way for as long as there have been conference championships.
There is some light talk about some conferences abandoning conference championships so that teams are not hurt in the CFP rankings.
Bowls have always been beauty pageants; they are not a meritocracy.
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I was just about to type out and hit send on: who is driving this bus now, the playoff committee or conference leadership?
Then I realized...the answer is "money"
If they make the CFP QFs at home sites the conf champ games will have more meaning again. Wetzel just did a whole thing on this. Since this preserves the most $ seems like the most likely change.
There is no good reason they should wait for the big ten bowl games. The sole reason would be that the big ten is set but the opponents in these games aren't since we don't know how many acc or sec teams are in the playoffs. However, announcing the big ten teams now would allow fans the most time to plan and would increase attendance.
This hurts some of the earlier bowls as fans need to buy plane tix.
I wish the networks and the conferences cared about the fans in the seats. But all they care about are TV ratings and money. Whenever I think about college sports, Bob Dylan's line from "It's All Right, Ma," comes to mind: "Money doesn't talk, it swears."
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They just need to go to 16, no byes, reseed for 2nd round...reseed the lowest 4 remaining teams and then you have a case where only 4 teams fan bases don't know where they are going.
- you could know the 16 teams in the playoffs today... forget the conference champ gets a bye because there are no byes.
Iowa State at Oregon
AZ State at Texas
South Carolina at PSU
Ole Miss at ND
Miami at Georgia
Bama at OSU
Boisie at Tenn
Indiana at SMU
Now.. it is probable that if the committee knew this was the plan, they'd have a different order.. they know what championship games would be, etc. And if those game did not matter, then they could very well have a different list, if not merely a differently ordered list. But this is the info we have now.
So.. every other bowl game could be chosen NOW. If this were the plan.
But following this plan, the neutral site games would then be.. using chalk..
SMU - Oregon
Tenn - Texas
OSU - PSU
UGA - ND
It is the SEC's desire for a BYE round that has caused this mess. No BYE round and there would be no mess.
Non-chalk, my predictions would have been.. using reseed I'd see 4 SEC teams in.. and Bama at OSU is not a given how Meechigan planned for them.. so a 16-team CFP would have benefitted the SEC greatly
SMU - Oregon
UGA - Texas
Tenn - PSU
Ole Miss (beat ND) - OSU
- you could know the 16 teams in the playoffs today... forget the conference champ gets a bye because there are no byes.
- Oregon — highest-ranked conference champion (Big Ten) and seeded No. 1
- Texas — second-highest-ranked conference champion (SEC) and seeded No. 2
- Penn State — at-large pick (second team in the Big Ten), seeded No. 5
- Notre Dame — at-large pick (independent), seeded No. 6
- Georgia — at-large pick (second team from the SEC), seeded No. 7
- Ohio State — at-large pick (third team from the Big Ten), seeded No. 8
- Tennessee — at-large pick (third team from the SEC), seeded No. 9
- SMU — third-highest-ranked conference champion (ACC), seeded No. 3
- Indiana — at-large pick (fourth team from the Big Ten), seeded No. 10
- Boise State — fourth-highest-ranked conference champion (Mountain West) and seeded No. 4
- Alabama — at-large pick (fourth team from the SEC), seeded No. 11
- Miami (Fla.) — first team out of the CFP
- Ole Miss — second team out of the CFP
- South Carolina — third team out of the CFP
- Arizona State — fifth-highest-ranked conference champion (Big 12) and seeded No. 12
Iowa State at Oregon
AZ State at Texas
South Carolina at PSU
Ole Miss at ND
Miami at Georgia
Bama at OSU
Boisie at Tenn
Indiana at SMU
Now.. it is probable that if the committee knew this was the plan, they'd have a different order.. they know what championship games would be, etc. And if those game did not matter, then they could very well have a different list, if not merely a differently ordered list. But this is the info we have now.
So.. every other bowl game could be chosen NOW. If this were the plan.
But following this plan, the neutral site games would then be.. using chalk..
SMU - Oregon
Tenn - Texas
OSU - PSU
UGA - ND
It is the SEC's desire for a BYE round that has caused this mess. No BYE round and there would be no mess.
Non-chalk, my predictions would have been.. using reseed I'd see 4 SEC teams in.. and Bama at OSU is not a given how Meechigan planned for them.. so a 16-team CFP would have benefitted the SEC greatly
SMU - Oregon
UGA - Texas
Tenn - PSU
Ole Miss (beat ND) - OSU
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I mean there's been a couple of games announced but for the most part, yeah.
Does this effect the "15 extra practices" at all (meaning, are they not able to begin practices until AFTER bowls are announced)? Or, have practices already begun? I haven't heard any mention of practices this week.
I miss the old days when we'd know which bowl we were headed to within a few hours of the last game.
I'm sure the teams know how to get their "15" in during December (one way or another).
The Sun Bowl is the oldest of the college Bowl Games after the Rose, Orange and Sugar Bowls. Rutgers was invited to play in the 5th Sun Bowl against the Arizona State Teachers College. Today, they are better known as Arizona State. Rutgers went 7-1-1 in the 1939 season but the school had a policy of accepting no post season offers. Instead, Arizona State played Catholic University from Washington, D.C. and the game wound up a 0-0 tie. Traditionally, the game was played for charity purposes.
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I couls definitely see the NCAA punishing a team for "practicing too soon" before they get an official bowl invite.
Like an 8-4 team that is guaranteed a bowl.
Amazing, but true -- it was in 1936. Catholic didn't play football during World War II, resumed it after the war but dropped the sport in 1950, resumed it at a club level in 1965, then went Division III in 1977. The school is now a football-only member of the New England Women's and Men's Athletic Conference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholic_University_Cardinals_head_football_coaches
