Is there really a rule that we can't be invited this year? I have seen contradictory posts on that for the past week.
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I believe they are doing some work there that has been going on for a little bit.
It starts up again right after ASU's last home game of the season.
FYI...we missed playing there by a year. As the Insight/Rate was there for a few years.
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It is not a rule.
The B1G agreement with the Pinstripe is that for the four year period from 2022 to 2025, there will be at least three different B1G participants. The goal is to have four different participants, but that is not binding.
Is that really how it reads? If so, Minny playing there doesn’t satisfy the agreement either. In that case, you’d think Nebraska basically has to go there. Can’t see the Mayo Bowl forcing the issue of wanting 6-6 3-6 Nebraska over the two 7-5 teams. Minny finishes 2 games ahead of them in the conf standings.
Thank you! Now I'm going to act like the effing professor I used to be: can you cite a source?
There is also a "no repeat" clause for the Non-P5 games. This year RU, NW, Iowa, Wiscy, Maryland and Minny could not go back to the games they played last year. This has been published as recently as a week or so ago (IIRC in NJ.com).
But someone, who shall remain nameless, says otherwise.🤷♂️
Phoenix is warm, with palm trees and golf. I'm going. You guys can drive where you want or long for stadiums torn down 100 years ago.
I'm spending the money, flying and have fun. Driving and the train both suck for more than a few hours.
See whoever goes there!
I'm spending the money, flying and have fun. Driving and the train both suck for more than a few hours.
See whoever goes there!
What are you talking about? You think Greg will have Pinstripe is the goal motivational signage all over the Hale center. It's your expectation, not our goal.
We keep tagging him too…
@huskersalways
I think if this particular game was on the 27th (like the Insight was) or the 28th more would seriously consider it.
One thing is for sure we will get a huge contingent of RU alumni from California at the Phoenix Bowl. As @Knightshift can attest to; we had a huge turnout a few weeks ago at the USC game. I was amazed at the turnout and had great conversations with many of them.
Yes I can. And having revisited the source, I stand corrected! There IS a no-repeat rule.
The Pinstripe variety rule (no fewer than three B1G teams in four years) that I cited is accurate. However, there is ALSO a no-repeat rule that applies to all B1G non-playoff bowls, not just the Pinstripe.
Here is the rule, courtesy of @SkiBoy.
Probably one of the only people on earth that have been to every Rutgers bowl game. I do not want a bowl on the day after Christmas. Have done that already. Total nightmare. Of course I will figure it out to keep the streak alive. But the family will not be happy. I would rather go to Boca. Ugh.
I'll provide the link again for Big Ten Bowl selections of which references the No Repeat clauses in the non-CFP bowl contracts.
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Thanks. Hawkeye sports site updated the document to reflect 2024-2025 bowl selections (attached in my above post) and the document continues to reference the No Repeat clauses. I tried finding evidence that the Conference may have amended the Bowl contracts however, found no proof.
Maybe that somebody can provide proof of the waivers. The document I linked was published for 2024-2025 bowl selection and continues to support the No Repeat clauses. We'll find out on Sunday.
Well the person who said that was the case, @huskersalways still hasn’t gotten back to us to confirm.
Yes goal in 25 is to keep the pinstripe dream alive !!
It’s enjoyable as long as you sit on the 3rd base side upper deck. It’s not bad. Legion Field in Birmingham was much worse.
There's at least 2 of us!! Dad took me to the Garden State Bowl. I'd prefer Mayo as closer, have friends in Charlotte, bigger RU crowd, rather play an ACC opponent, I don't golf and the date is better for many reasons, but hedged and booked a refundable room in Scottsdale earlier today 😁
Geez, you really don't get it. Nobody else gives a damn if you can take your kids to a bowl game. And going to the Pinstripe Bowl does not build any local fan base. Do you think someone is going to wander into Yankee Stadium in late December, see Rutgers play for the first time and become a fan? I get it, you don't want to travel and prefer getting a suite at Yankee Stadium for your kids. When you've been to three of these excuses of for a bowl game let me know how you feel about it. If Rutgers is ever going to get somewhere, bowls like this have to be left in the rear-view mirror.
My children went to the first 2 Pinstripe bowls, they were 11 and 13. They didn't go to Birmingham, Canada, St Petes, Detroit. That's the point. Maybe that contributed to the fact that they both chose Rutgers years later, over PSU, USCa etc. They both came to Vegas for the Bball tourney last week. They are proud Rutgers grads. Last year we brought full fam, plus a GF, to Pinstripe. Families will travel to a local bowl game. It's easy, it's affordable. This year, just me if Phoenix. You're correct, no one wanders in, but many more folks went to the Bronx last year, than Jacksonville a few years ago, or Detroit 10 years ago. Why is UNC the school most chosen for the Mayo bowl.....cause they bring a lot of fans due to location. Same for RU to Pinstripe. Do we all want to go to Orlando for the Citrus Bowl, of course, but if we're 6-6, I'll take Pinstripe all day. Had a great time last year!
The previous poster explained it. It has nothing at all to do with “my kids” - that group (school age kids) was just an example. It is factually accurate that we will always have much better attendance comprised of a much more diverse group of supporting fans (diverse - as in different levels of RU engagement / following) at a local bowl at Yankee stadium than we will at a distant venue the day before or after Christmas. You can disagree about whether that matters or not but please don’t say I don’t “get it” as if I’m off base on this assessment. It doesn’t matter how much you or others on here complain about Pin Stripe. When RU plays there, attendance has been good. History supports this.
Well I'm sorry but you don't. Of course attendance is good, it's across the river. Hey you like it. Good for you. But your "assessment" of what's best for the program is somewhat distorted. You seem to think it's better for Rutgers football if you can attend bowl games with young children. I believe playing in a better bowl, against better opponents with more TV viewership would be much better for the program. For the program to recruit better, to get more NIL money, to be able to pay better assistant coaches, there are things that are more important than local fan convenience. We don't agree. So be it. End of story.
Pinstripe works out well for many reasons as people that would never travel for a bowl, get to go. For that one and only one reason- it can be good.
But since many of those people do not travel, they don’t understand the difference- by going to NYC- it sucks for the team- when you get to a bowl as a player, it is exciting to have almost a week of just something different. It is also cool for them to have a couple of days where they have family and friends around and can hang out with them for a couple of hours.
For fans- there are events- there are also just times hanging at the hotel or local places where you meet other fans, hang out together and make friends for life.
But since many of those people do not travel, they don’t understand the difference- by going to NYC- it sucks for the team- when you get to a bowl as a player, it is exciting to have almost a week of just something different. It is also cool for them to have a couple of days where they have family and friends around and can hang out with them for a couple of hours.
For fans- there are events- there are also just times hanging at the hotel or local places where you meet other fans, hang out together and make friends for life.
In my opinion going to the Pinstripe or Detroit is no comparison to the other bowls we went to. Took my 15 Yr old son to Phoenix (best one yet) and Houston, family (wife, 17 yr, 14, yr, 8 yr olds) to Toronto and Alabama, two sons (18,9) to St. Petersburg, and the whole family to Orlando. We all went to the first two Pinstripe bowls and oldest son to Detroit (24 hour trip).
The bowl trips, except Detroit, were 3-4 day fun travel and bowl game “experiences” (including golf in Arizona, Orlando, and St. Petersburg); both Pinstripe Bowls were just games, with fun pregame activities in Manhattan.
The bowl trips, except Detroit, were 3-4 day fun travel and bowl game “experiences” (including golf in Arizona, Orlando, and St. Petersburg); both Pinstripe Bowls were just games, with fun pregame activities in Manhattan.
Right there with you ..I have been to every Bowl since our 2005 Insight Bowl.
Plan to continue that streak this season again. Just have different preferences on where we should be going but will be going regardless.
I admit that I was spoiled by only becoming a fan the same year our son started playing here in 2005. Bowls in nice places seemed the norm.
My ranks-
2005 Phoenix - we lost but wow, what a great time. Great location- we spent 5 days there and GS allowed Kevin to stay with us an extra day and fly home with us.
2009- St. Pete - final Bowl and Rutgers finally started planning these things correctly for families- the fact that it was great weather- hotel time with players and family was great and everywhere you walked the streets was filled with Scarlet
2006 - Houston - another great place to enjoy and the players in the Hotel was just a blast. What a year
2007 - Toronto- Weather ended up great and just a great city. Not as festive as warm weather
2008 - Bama - Nothing impressed me there. Hotel was basically in a mall, weather was colder then expected, the rally was shared between the teams. But the Hotel bar was a great gathering of family, friends and players
Have not been back to a bowl since then
It was from a NU mod on On3 that I have sent multiple messages to for clarification and he hasn’t replied. It was a one year deal according to him and was just to allow the conference to get its bowl tie ins re-aligned.
It also sounds like there won’t be any repeats for any bowls.
It’s kinda weird that Colorado may end up playing BYU in a bowl game despite both being Big 12 schools now. They are doing the same thing as the Big 10 and PAC 12 where schools that moved play in old alignment.
Looks like NU is going to end up in NYC. That won’t help the pinstripe any. NU folks won’t be hitting it like wouldn’t the others despite the bowl draught.
Good post, hearing a parent's perspective on why you put St. Pete 2nd on your list. I also attended these games, but as a fan. I like your list but I need to flip St. Pete and Houston. Seeing Leonard play his last game for RU adds to the overall experience. If we had gone to the Sugar Bowl in 2006 or Orange Bowl in 2012, that may have come close to the 2005 Insight Bowl. Alas, we fell a play or two short.
Legion was warmer! ;-)
Birmingham way better sight lines.
There was a real pep rally.
My first time at a Waffle House.
Still felt like a bowl, Pinstripe feels like a colder wet April baseball game against the White Sox.
So, if Nebraska is Pinstripe, does that definitely put Rutgers in Phoenix, or is Mayo still in play?
Hope so.So, if Nebraska is Pinstripe, does that definitely put Rutgers in Phoenix, or is Mayo still in play?
I’ll go there or Music City.
They fit with my schedule.
Always chuckled reading about Nebraska’s first bowl in New York City in late 50’s ?
Bob Devany, “Never again”
Guess “Never say never” or “Hell has frozen over bowl” for Nebraska fans.
No Winnebagos in the parking decks of the Bronx! Enjoy!!
Bob Devany, “Never again”
Guess “Never say never” or “Hell has frozen over bowl” for Nebraska fans.
No Winnebagos in the parking decks of the Bronx! Enjoy!!
