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AreYouNUTS said:
We'd sell more tickets (allotment or otherwise), fill more rooms, spend more $$$ and draw more "eyes." I said it before: between DC and Atlanta we likely have 30x (if not more) the alumni than The Gophers do, flights are a dime-a-dozen from NYC to Miami into Charlotte, and the drive is easy. So unless someone in Charlotte is getting major knob from someone in Minnesota this is a serious head-scratcher IF true.
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Agreed on all counts. But their resume is stronger and that bowl has never invited RU.

My guess is Iowa and Michigan split Tampa and Nashville, and Nebraska is off to Pinstripe. RU to the Rate Bowl…as most predict. I’m not sure what other options there would be to play out.
 
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ruronny said:
Agreed on all counts. But their resume is stronger and that bowl has never invited RU.

My guess is Iowa and Michigan split Tampa and Nashville, and Nebraska is off to Pinstripe. RU to the Rate Bowl…as most predict. I’m not sure what other options there would be to play out.
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Different guy running the show in Charlotte then the one who screwed us over twice on the last day.
 
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ruronny said:
Agreed on all counts. But their resume is stronger and that bowl has never invited RU.

My guess is Iowa and Michigan split Tampa and Nashville, and Nebraska is off to Pinstripe. RU to the Rate Bowl…as most predict. I’m not sure what other options there would be to play out.
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And they finished ahead of us in the conference standings.
 
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PSAL_Hoops said:
I went last year. We brought the kids and paid for a suite so they could stay indoors and we wouldn’t have to listen to them complain about being cold. We had a great time.

For every die hard single guy without family obligations who can pick up and go to any bowl, there are many others who can’t rationalize it for 6-6 / 7-5 seasons. I’m grateful that we have a local venue to be sent to fairly often when that happens. I’d love to go to the Mayo bowl. Really anywhere in driving distance would be great. But those bowls won’t pick us.
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Then we agree. I'm psyched whenever I can drive to a bowl. I've driven to Toronto and Birmingham. Charlotte or Nashville for me would be freakin' awesome. I'm just not in the position to pay airfare and hotel room in Arizona. Hey, if it was one of the top bowls? Sure, once in a lifetime event. The Rate Bowl? No thanks. Hell I'd even consider taking a train to Florida. But the Pinstripe? I've seen us play Iowa State, Notre Dame, and Miami in that bowl. Yankee Stadium is horrible for baseball. It's a shame we don't have the Polo Grounds instead. At least that was a baseball stadium with decent football seating. And the Pinstripe loves us because we always bring the biggest crowd, so they pick us every chance they get. Nope, the only time I want to go to the Bronx is for a subway series.
 
Hell yeah, the Polo Grounds Bowl! I'm in.

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graystork said:
Then we agree. I'm psyched whenever I can drive to a bowl. I've driven to Toronto and Birmingham. Charlotte or Nashville for me would be freakin' awesome. I'm just not in the position to pay airfare and hotel room in Arizona. Hey, if it was one of the top bowls? Sure, once in a lifetime event. The Rate Bowl? No thanks. Hell I'd even consider taking a train to Florida. But the Pinstripe? I've seen us play Iowa State, Notre Dame, and Miami in that bowl. Yankee Stadium is horrible for baseball. It's a shame we don't have the Polo Grounds instead. At least that was a baseball stadium with decent football seating. And the Pinstripe loves us because we always bring the biggest crowd, so they pick us every chance they get. Nope, the only time I want to go to the Bronx is for a subway series.
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I take it your not lugging kids to those other drivable venues for 6-6/7-5 teams? I see it differently. A game is a game. I wasn’t getting caught up on Yankee stadium not being a great football venue. It was still fun to go there last year and bring the family. That’s not happening for us with any other bowl ever. It simply wouldn’t ever be possible to pack up our entire crew on short notices and disappear for a few days. The kids have too many commitments with school, sports, etc. I’m certain we are not alone. So many kids in Rutgers gear or KC Pachecho Jerseys at the Pin Stripe bowl. To take the next step as a program, we need to keep building support from NJ kids. That bowl offers something for us that the others don’t in this regard at least.

But it’s not an option this year so we can move on. I’m sure we will be going to the Rate bowl and attendance likely won’t be good. That’s basically all there is to say.
 
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PSAL_Hoops said:
I take it your not lugging kids to those other drivable venues for 6-6/7-5 teams? I see it differently. A game is a game. I wasn’t getting caught up on Yankee stadium not being a great football venue. It was still fun to go there last year and bring the family. That’s not happening for us with any other bowl ever. It simply wouldn’t ever be possible to pack up our entire crew on short notices and disappear for a few days. The kids have too many commitments with school, sports, etc. I’m certain we are not alone.
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Took my son with me to Toronto and Birmingham but he was a Rutgers student then, and I assume yours are younger. The Pinstripe Bowl is convenient, no doubt. But after three of them I'd rather go elsewhere. But now I can take my nephew who's now a little older than my son was.
 
graystork said:
Then we agree. I'm psyched whenever I can drive to a bowl. I've driven to Toronto and Birmingham. Charlotte or Nashville for me would be freakin' awesome. I'm just not in the position to pay airfare and hotel room in Arizona. Hey, if it was one of the top bowls? Sure, once in a lifetime event. The Rate Bowl? No thanks. Hell I'd even consider taking a train to Florida. But the Pinstripe? I've seen us play Iowa State, Notre Dame, and Miami in that bowl. Yankee Stadium is horrible for baseball. It's a shame we don't have the Polo Grounds instead. At least that was a baseball stadium with decent football seating. And the Pinstripe loves us because we always bring the biggest crowd, so they pick us every chance they get. Nope, the only time I want to go to the Bronx is for a subway series.
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Wow, your screen name is appropriate! The last football game played in the Polo Grounds was in 1963, not long before its demolition.
 
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graystork said:
Took my son with me to Toronto and Birmingham but he was a Rutgers student then, and I assume yours are younger. The Pinstripe Bowl is convenient, no doubt. But after three of them I'd rather go elsewhere. But now I can take my nephew who's now a little older than my son was.
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I hear where you are coming from but again, that isn’t happening for grade school age kids. Nobody is pulling their kids out of school for a low tier bowl game out of town. That’s the next generation. Engagement at that level is one metric that that contributes to taking the next step as a program. We want NJ kids following Rutgers football. We’ll never be a perennial play off team but if we get closer to Iowa level year in and out, history says the Tri State area follows us. Local events of all kinds help build the casual fan base. It’s that simple. Considering what the low tier bowl games have become in terms of importance, it’s hard to dismiss the benefits of a local bowl (aka gloried exhibition) as nothing compared to the challenges of travel at inconvenient times.
 
PSAL_Hoops said:
I hear where you are coming from but again, that isn’t happening for grade school age kids. Nobody is pulling their kids out of school for a low tier bowl game out of town. That’s the next generation. Engagement at that level is one metric that that contributes to taking the next step as a program. We want NJ kids following Rutgers football. We’ll never be a perennial play off team but if we get closer to Iowa level year in and out, history says the Tri State area follows us. Local events of all kinds help build the casual fan base. It’s that simple. Considering what the low tier bowl games have become in terms of importance, it’s hard to dismiss the benefits of a local bowl (aka gloried exhibition) as nothing compared to the challenges of travel at inconvenient times.
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You are right that we need to build up our fan base and that local events are good for that. But I don't think another visit to the Pinstripe Bowl helps us. Going there again is not particularly exciting after such a good season and many fans have said that the spectator experience there isn't enjoyable. Yankee Stadium is just not meant for football. Probably a televised out of area bowl is at least as good for the casual fan.
 
If Nebraska is in NYC then the Assumption is Michigan to Music City? Then who is more desirable for Charlotte, RU or MN
 
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SF88 said:
If Nebraska is in NYC then the Assumption is Michigan to Music City? Then who is more desirable for Charlotte, RU or MN
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I would assume Nebby to Pinstripe and Michigan to either Nashville or Tampa as discussed. I agree with most posters that RU was almost always going to Rate from the moment we lost those 4 games in a row and blew the Illinois game.

Minny info probably correct, they are destined for Dukes Mayo in Charlotte. 95% chance IMO it’s Rate versus a Texas team for RU. I disagree about poor attendance, I know many including alumni in AZ and CA that will attend. As well as here in the tri-state area.
 
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RUDeac said:
The Nebby board never said they are going to PHX. They want PHX because it’s close and they have a lot of alumni there.
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No difference without anything concrete IMHO. Just like here: message board chatter (for now....). Doesn't mean it isn't good info, or it's bad info, but nonetheless just chatter for now.

...but thanks for the info (I don't typically check other team's boards...) though it's appreciated!
 
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RUDeac said:
The Nebby board never said they are going to PHX. They want PHX because it’s close and they have a lot of alumni there.
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Just stopped by there and wen through the thread. It looks like 1 guy - "Sharpy" - "said" that it "looks" like Pinstripe? Who is "Sharpy?" Looks like you have posting privelages there, I don't, thx!
 
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PSAL_Hoops said:
I hear where you are coming from but again, that isn’t happening for grade school age kids. Nobody is pulling their kids out of school for a low tier bowl game out of town. That’s the next generation. Engagement at that level is one metric that that contributes to taking the next step as a program. We want NJ kids following Rutgers football. We’ll never be a perennial play off team but if we get closer to Iowa level year in and out, history says the Tri State area follows us. Local events of all kinds help build the casual fan base. It’s that simple. Considering what the low tier bowl games have become in terms of importance, it’s hard to dismiss the benefits of a local bowl (aka gloried exhibition) as nothing compared to the challenges of travel at inconvenient times.
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I agree with many of your points. I think the Rate Bowl attendance would be better if played on December 27 or 28. You figure alums from Texas, CA could make it in addition to more from out East.
 
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ruronny said:
I would assume Nebby to Pinstripe and Michigan to either Nashville or Tampa as discussed. I agree with most posters that RU was almost always going to Rate from the moment we lost those 4 games in a row and blew the Illinois game.

Minny info probably correct, they are destined for Dukes Mayo in Charlotte. 95% chance IMO it’s Rate versus a Texas team for RU. I disagree about poor attendance, I know many including alumni in AZ and CA that will attend. As well as here in the tri-state area.
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It will be shocking if it’s not poor attendance relative to any other bowl we’ve been to except Detroit. Just because you know some people planning to go does not in any way reflect the turnout on a whole. Of course some alum on the west coast will go to the game, but for every one of them there are probably 25+ alum on the east coast. Maybe more. There will be die hard fans who make the trip out and skip Christmas this year. And some who don’t celebrate Christmas who are not impacted. Overall, attendance will be worse though than other years. How could it not?
 
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retired711 said:
You are right that we need to build up our fan base and that local events are good for that. But I don't think another visit to the Pinstripe Bowl helps us. Going there again is not particularly exciting after such a good season and many fans have said that the spectator experience there isn't enjoyable. Yankee Stadium is just not meant for football. Probably a televised out of area bowl is at least as good for the casual fan.
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There’s a rule. We can’t go this year. My point is I’m grateful that we could go next year in the event we are 6-6. I respect that there are die hard fans on here who would prefer to spend Christmas alternating trips to Detroit and Arizona - but until we win a few more games to be able to draw a better date for a bowl game, I believe a local game every few years is a net positive for the program (compared to the alternative) because we don’t have enough fans like that to show up in big numbers over the holidays. Few programs do.
 
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Plum Street said:
The rate bowl is a good time for TV viewers.
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And that's really all these bowls care about these days. Picking teams based on bowl attendance is primarily a thing of the past (although still a factor for the large power programs like Michigan, Alabama, Georgia etc.). They want good matchups that will increase TV and streaming numbers. That's pretty much it.

I also disagree that Rutgers would bring a drastically higher number of fans to Nashville or Charlotte than Minnesota. There's a lot of excitement around that program right now and they have many loyal supporters. That type of excitement isn't there for Rutgers right now as our small home crowds during the second half of the season have shown.

And you can't use bowls played almost 20 years ago to make the case that we're some sort of bowl attendance powerhouse, either. 2005 Insight Bowl was the first bowl in many Rutgers fans' lifetimes and was a completely new and fresh experience for many of our fans. 2006 obviously doesn't apply either since that was a historic season for RU football. And sure, you can point to the Pinstripe Bowl's decent showings but everyone knows that's a train ride away from campus. Attendance at other bowls in Detroit, Birmingham and Orlando wasn't particularly strong for Rutgers. Toronto was pretty solid but again, that was a different era at Rutgers.

Let's just be happy with whatever bowl Rutgers plays in. There are valid reasons why we're not being chosen ahead of more established B1G programs...yet.
 
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PSAL_Hoops said:
There’s a rule. We can’t go this year.
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I forgot which newspaper it was, but there was a reputable report saying that the bowl repeat rule was being suspended this year if needed. That's less of an issue (actually a non-issue) now that Michigan State and Wisconsin both lost. Had they both won and we were sitting there at 6-6, you better believe the Big Ten wouldn't have hesitated to stick Rutgers back in the Pinstripe. They only care about what's best for the conference.
 
MADHAT1 said:
The last time in Phoenix a great time was had by all that went to the Insight Bowl (Dec.27,2005).
But it had been 27 years since the last time Rutgers made a bowl game appearance
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I enjoyed that bowl immensely. However, from where I was sitting, I literally could not hear the RU band at halftime. That was a weird experience.

The Phoenix bowl should be played, IMO, at Sun Devil Stadium.
 
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