Is Archie Miller the target?
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I won't rule out anyone at this point and sure some we think won't come will at least have a feeler put out to someone close to then gauging their interest .
If the money and promise for improvements are to their liking, any HC we think won't come, might give some serious thought about taking the RU HC position.
In the past the ones that seemed beyond RU's reach were just that because of what RU was willing to offer .
So I can see how some of the HC's mentioned would be thought of as wishful thinking and unless Hobbs is going to go all out, they probably are just a pipe dream and not someone Rutgers can get.
If the money and promise for improvements are to their liking, any HC we think won't come, might give some serious thought about taking the RU HC position.
In the past the ones that seemed beyond RU's reach were just that because of what RU was willing to offer .
So I can see how some of the HC's mentioned would be thought of as wishful thinking and unless Hobbs is going to go all out, they probably are just a pipe dream and not someone Rutgers can get.
I'm fine if that's the case. Can't hurt to reach out.
I'm fine if that's the case but it can't hurt to test the waters.
I'm fine if that's the case but it can't hurt to test the waters.
Here we go again naming successful coaches and hoping one chooses Rutgers.Past history has shown that the potential hire list quickly falls to the fifth or sixth choice as others higher rated say no.What can Rutgers offer to Miller that he can't have at Dayton or a higher rated school?
Fortune favors the bold.
We lose nothing by contacting him. I hope Hobbs doesn't have the same defeatist attitude.
We lose nothing by contacting him. I hope Hobbs doesn't have the same defeatist attitude.
We should be targeting him. He won't be st Dayton much longer. Yes he might get better offers but he might not this year and you can't hold out forever. I think he only has one key player graduating so he may feel confident about next year.
You pitch him new facilities, great recruiting grounds, Big Ten and a hefty contract. See what happens
You pitch him new facilities, great recruiting grounds, Big Ten and a hefty contract. See what happens
People need to listen to Parrish of CBS sports podcast talking about the Rutgers job and whether Danny Hurley should take. Its very sober take on how terrible this job is
something tells me we wind up with an asst coach from Nevada...we have a Wall mart budget and less infrastructure to recruit with..
It will take a lot of work to turn around. Probably more than in other places because of the many years of negligence. It should be clear to everyone paying attention that that has changed.
The AD has the full support of the administration and donor community. We're definitely going to move forward with facility construction and improvement. If you bring in the right individual and reinvigorate the fan base and students. The timetable financial timetable will be sped up.
We talked about this on the pay board before the season started. Public perception will change with the right coach, change in culture, and a commitment to be successful. We need to let the process play out.
I could never describe a P5 job, at a school looking at a 250% increase in just conference revenue and a commitment to be successful, as a terrible job. With the right hire, the perception of the program can change almost instantaneously.
I am a UD alumni and I think Archie would be nuts to leave Dayton for RU. The UD administration has always supported their basketball teams, they have excellent facilities and rabid support from the community, students and alumni. While I do think Archie will leave eventually to coach a P5 conference team, I would be shocked if he left to come to RU. He certainly would be an excellent choice as he is one hell of a coach. Selfishly, I wish he would stay at UD forever, but if Hobbs could get him, I definitely think he could help turn the program around.
Bac, are you not the one with the faith in Hobbs. If we get a coach who can recruit a little bit, why is this job so bad? Yes, we are all aware of the history, but does that have to weigh us down forever?
VIbrant and professional AD, Big 10, facilities coming, big 10 money coming, I don't think the job is as terrible as Parrish is painting.
My head is not in the sand to what has happened here and the non support, but I think we can build a program.
Someone is going to take this job, hopefully someone who has the passion to put his heart and soul into it, and slowly we build.
So basically you constantly bash and call for the firing of basically all coaches who comes here and produces bad to mediocre results......and when they are fired you bash and call this a terrible place that any good good coach replacing the fired coach would come to.
A new coaching search always brings hope.....at least until the hire is made. Potentially new facility improvements on the near horizon also give some reason to hope. No one is claiming that elevating RU BBall will be an easy or short term fix........but taking a break from the misery once in a while might be a refreshing change of pace.
He was never offered the Florida job
I listened to that podcast. Very sobering and I thought they were fairly kind to RU. I do disagree that it can't be fixed but that's the perception that we are dealing with. Coaches around the country are thinking - you can't win at Rutgers.
If RU is willing to do what it takes and does it, RU MBB can succeed and prove the naysayers wrong..
There is always hope, even if the past proved hope was a luxury RU MBB fans could ill afford and the MBB program wasn't worth donating to.
Once the RU MBB starts showing improvement, maybe those without hope now will start gaining some
Remember the RU FB program was the same way and now it is expected to be good every year.
Nothing says that can't happen to the RU MBB program if RU supports it properly and boosters start donating more because they want to invest in its success.
Sorry but where was I bashing a new hire here...point is that some of the names being thrown around are realistic. We have fans slamming Hurley yet he would be one of the more qualified guys and alot of people think it would be crazy for him to take this job. We have a limited pool of candidates but Im confident in Hobbs in making this hire. However I think some of our fanbase is clueless when it comes to realiIng how unattractive thia job truly is
If the B10 membership,a new practice facility and an updating of the RAC cannot do it,then there is a big problem.
No more Jersey guys(hurley) Rutgers has gone through Bannon and Hill already.
No coaches from the America East,Atlantic Sun,Northeast,Metro Atlantic or Big South
No more Ivy HC,Rutgers already had craig littlepaige.
No more NBA coaches,already had Eddie.
Coaches from Dayton,Xavier,GW are fine or top assistants from long time winning HC's in the Big 10
No more Jersey guys(hurley) Rutgers has gone through Bannon and Hill already.
No coaches from the America East,Atlantic Sun,Northeast,Metro Atlantic or Big South
No more Ivy HC,Rutgers already had craig littlepaige.
No more NBA coaches,already had Eddie.
Coaches from Dayton,Xavier,GW are fine or top assistants from long time winning HC's in the Big 10
This is why hiring a new coach next year would raise the level of potential new coaches. Much more money available and a year closer to new facilities. The coaching carousel is killing the program. When Hobbs fired Jordan it became clear to me he is prepared to over spend right now in order to get a guy we really shouldn't be able to attract right now but might've been able to after next year.
If this hire isn't huge, then you should immediately lose all faith in Hobbs, because this firing will just prolong the rebuild another 3-4 years - b/c of the pressure you and other blog writers provided. How can you actually be saying this now knowing it was the situation you lusted for all year?
I'm thoroughly confused lol
sorry but its not the blogs and fans that got Jordan fired...it was his terrible record. He needed to go and Hobbs thought that as well. I am not going to lose faith in Hobbs personally because I trust him...I feel some here will because they dont understand how poor this job is viewed and I already see posters aiming sky high while shooting down guys like Hurley...which is comical to bash Hurley. He is among the best we can get. We are not getting Miller, we are not getting Mack. They are at better schools. We can get a midmajor guy who Hobbs feel is the right choice, we can get a Hurely who can navigate the landscape of NJ or we can get a guy like Sendek who has coaching success
I just don't agree with your opinion of the RU BBall job. Like any school, we have our benefits and difficulties, but they're no different than the vast majority of schools. I think too many pundits, like the podcast you posted, are missing seismic change that's occurred.
We fired both the Men's football and basketball coaches in the same year. We don't need to create a pretense like Snowgate or Pitt baseball gate to do it. For the first time, the Administration and the State are on the same page as the AD. In addition, money just doesn't seem to be an impediment any longer(because otherwise how could you fire both staffs in the same year, in such a quick manner).
Things have begun to change significantly, which many of the media seem to be missing.
We talked about Danny before this season even started. I think he would be an excellent choice. However, based on what I see and hear my expectations for a new coach have been raised. That doesn't mean I wouldn't be extremely happy with Danny and confident that we were moving in the right direction.
This job, based on recent changes, has become significantly more attractive than it has been over the last 25 years.
I don't see a big difference between Bobby and Danny. I'd be happy with either. However, the cost of getting him to leave ASU, I don't believe equals the slight improvement over his brother.
listen to the podcast. They arent making it up. Parrish has covered college hoops for years. Seth Davis echoes his sentiments they know the landscape. This has zero to do with football either. Being in the Big 10 means nothing because RU is like a MAAC school in basketball. The facilities are embarrassing, the support has been embarrassing, the fanbase has been decimated and RU continues to hire the wrong coach...RU is ready to hire its 7 coach in the last 20 years.
I realize RU is ready to spend more on athletics but more is just going to put us at the bottom 4 of the Big 10, guys will not come here because you throw $3 million at them. Mack and Miller have no reason to go here when they will get offers from much more stable programs where they can start winning in year 2 and 3 not maybe in year 5.
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